MN - Journalist Don Lemon arrested for church protest, Minneapolis, 18 Jan 2026

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Were the Founding Fathers Christian Nationalists? Is every Christian a Christian nationalist?

No one would ever have stood for an invasion of a mosque or temple. Only a Christian church is where it is no big deal.
As I stated in my other post, this country was founded on religious FREEDOM, not as a Christian nation. Our founding fathers did not want the US to have one centralized religion, that’s the whole point. I do not think ANY type of church should have a protest in it. I think I’ve said this at least 10 times in this thread.

I myself am a proud Christian whose children attend religious school and I’m at church every single Sunday. I also think the current administration pushing Christian nationalism is wrong, it goes against everything in the Bible and everything Jesus taught. I think ANY religion pushing Nationalism is wrong - it’s a form of religious extremism. But I also do not believe there is any current attack on Christians or Christianity in this county. All MOO.
 
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Regarding this case specifically, bbm:


Gabe Rottman, vice president of policy for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, made the following statement:

“It’s obviously concerning any time journalists are arrested in connection with their reporting. To our knowledge, it’s unprecedented for the Justice Department to deploy the federal laws it has previously cited in this case against journalistic activity.

“Historically, the limited number of cases that have been brought against a journalist documenting a protest on private property have been handled as trespass cases at the state level. Those charges are almost always dropped, or if the cases go to trial, the journalists typically prevail.”




About the source: The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press (RCFP) is the leading pro bono legal services organization for journalists and newsrooms in the U.S. The Reporters Committee provides legal representation, amicus curiae support, and other legal resources at no cost to protect First Amendment freedoms and the newsgathering rights of journalists across the country.
More about the source:
Overall, we rate the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press (RCFP) as Least Biased due to its nonpartisan focus on defending journalistic rights and press freedom. We also rate it High for factual reporting based on thorough sourcing and adherence to professional journalism standards.

 
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You’re ridiculous. i’m not going to argue with you anymore. You can’t discuss anything intellectually or lawfully, and are totally obsessed with whining about how this church deserves to be treated different than any other entity in this country. Christians love to defend their right to terrorize others and violate their rights, but we should all have our hearts broken oven a church service being mildly disrupted. “Rights for me, but not for thee!”

I’ve repeatedly explained to you why race, journalism, and the administration matters in regard to this case, and you brush it off without empathy and insist on this case existing in a magic bubble. Ignorance is bliss.

“IMO”/“MOO”.
But, this is what they do, their 'creed' IMO I mean the circles and walls. Their 'survival' method, justification. No, something along the line may crumble those but best not to have the walls and circles in your mind to crumble so massively at some point, life is short, free your mind and spirits and the ability to see a human being the same as your own self. Not special, not god like, not favored. IMO
 
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Were the Founding Fathers Christian Nationalists? Is every Christian a Christian nationalist?

No one would ever have stood for an invasion of a mosque or temple. Only a Christian church is where it is no big deal.

The Founding Fathers were racists and slave owners, so I don’t know if that’s the defense you want to mount here. Not every Christian is a Christian nationalist, but the majority of those in the current administration are (or pretend to be) and they’re the one setting the standards of who is punished by the FACT act, who is pardoned from punishment from it, etc.

“IMO”/“MOO”
 
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Probably because Don left through the front door, and the person who broke their arm from slipping left through a different door. Can't report on an issue that you are unaware of (if he didn't, in fact, mention it in his video. IDK)

imo
True, Don Lemon and the injured woman left through different doors at different times. But, as a reporter, when he saw people fleeing out the Church's office door with crying children, was that not the story?
 
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A "bad day"? Children crying and telling their fathers that they thought they would be shot that day while sitting in their church pews praying with their families and church community and pastor? Aggressive and violent chants of "don't shoot" and telling children their parents are Nazis and will go to hell?

Children, the elderly, and congregants overall were traumatized by this event and to call it a "bad day" is way beyond the pale.

Though probably not as bad a day as was had by Renee Good's children and family. The protesters were also chanting about the shooting death of Renee, by ICE, while they were outing one of the church's pastors who leads the local ICE field office.

This incident happened 11 days after Renee was killed. I think that needs to be remembered.

Which is probably why Don Lemon and Georgia Fort were busy documenting the protest. Renee's killing was fresh and painful.

imo
 
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Probably because Don left through the front door, and the person who broke their arm from slipping left through a different door. Can't report on an issue that you are unaware of (if he didn't, in fact, mention it in his video. IDK)

imo
If Don was there to report on the scene, he should have been aware of these things. But Don just made a beeline for the pastor and of course the flippant comment about the scared boy "trauma is part of it." He is a journalist, but his actions in the church were as an advocate and protester and has to obey the law the same as everyone.
 
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Though probably not as bad a day as was had by Renee Good's children and family. The protesters were also chanting about the shooting death of Renee, while they were outing one of the church's pastors who leads the local ICE field office.

This incident happened 11 days after Renee was killed. I think that needs to be remembered.

Which is probably why Don Lemon and Georgia Fort were busy documenting the protest. Renee's killing was fresh and painful.

imo
But you can't compare these. Don Lemon's charges stand on their own. Good's death is no defense. In fact, it will likely be used by the prosecution against him.
 
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I am not even sure this will go to trial. jmo
 
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If Don was there to report on the scene, he should have been aware of these things. But Don just made a beeline for the pastor
He still was doing a job of a journalist. Maybe biased, maybe not very competent, but a journalist.

MOO 🐄
 
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I think that I can, if it is clearly stated that it is my opinion.

imo
Ok. So because of the brutality of the Jocelyn Nungary case, the ICE agents should allowed some leeway in their actions? Right?
 
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The Founding Fathers were racists and slave owners, so I don’t know if that’s the defense you want to mount here. Not every Christian is a Christian nationalist, but the majority of those in the current administration are (or pretend to be) and they’re the one setting the standards of who is punished by the FACT act, who is pardoned from punishment from it, etc.

“IMO”/“MOO”
Yes, many were slave owners in the 1700s. None of us here today were. Our nation was founded one nation under God and that has been whittled away. Our current administration is bring back the principles that made the United States the greatest nation in the world! Everyone wants to come here after all.

We all want religious freedom. All Americans. I believe today’s Christian are being minimized.
 
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You’re ridiculous. i’m not going to argue with you anymore. You can’t discuss anything intellectually or lawfully, and are totally obsessed with whining about how this church deserves to be treated different than any other entity in this country. Christians love to defend their right to terrorize others and violate their rights, but we should all have our hearts broken oven a church service being mildly disrupted. “Rights for me, but not for thee!”

I’ve repeatedly explained to you why race, journalism, and the administration matters in regard to this case, and you brush it off without empathy and insist on this case existing in a magic bubble. Ignorance is bliss.

“IMO”/“MOO”.
And yet I am the lawyer, and the only one arguing the equal application of this law. The law cannot take into account race as you demand it must.
 
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Ok. So because of the brutality of the Jocelyn Nungary case, the ICE agents should allowed some leeway in their actions? Right?

I do know (imo) that Don and Georgia were documenting a protest - a protest that may never have happened if Renee (and then later, Alex) wasn't shot and killed by ICE.

I think that the killing(s) completely outraged the people, they protested in numerous ways (this being one of them imo), and the protests were ALL newsworthy.

imo
 
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The Founding Fathers were racists and slave owners, so I don’t know if that’s the defense you want to mount here. Not every Christian is a Christian nationalist, but the majority of those in the current administration are (or pretend to be) and they’re the one setting the standards of who is punished by the FACT act, who is pardoned from punishment from it, etc.

“IMO”/“MOO”
Exactly. Christian took an ugly turn a while back. It used to mean, to me, not Jewish, not Muslim and so on. PERIOD. It was simple, then suddenly 'Christian' became, BETTER THAN YOUUUUUU. IMO
 
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Ok. So because of the brutality of the Jocelyn Nungary case, the ICE agents should allowed some leeway in their actions? Right?
They should be allowed to remove criminal illegal aliens from our country. The ones who have committed more crimes other than the crime of being in the US illegally. Some states are blocking ICE from doing their lawful job. The leeway should be that they are facilitated in removing criminals.

Brutality? No. Not unless you consider removing a criminal as brutal. This is happening every day in many states and the agents are being helped by local
Police and state government. Why is this brutality, as you put it, happening in Minnesota and not Florida for example?
 
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And yet I am the lawyer, and the only one arguing the equal application of this law. The law cannot take into account race as you demand it must.
We are not in a court room, and I don’t see where you are in charge. JMO
 
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Though probably not as bad a day as was had by Renee Good's children and family. The protesters were also chanting about the shooting death of Renee, by ICE, while they were outing one of the church's pastors who leads the local ICE field office.

This incident happened 11 days after Renee was killed. I think that needs to be remembered.

Which is probably why Don Lemon and Georgia Fort were busy documenting the protest. Renee's killing was fresh and painful.

imo
Not sure what that has to do with the families, elderly and children worshipping at church that Sunday and being aggressively confronted with yelling and screaming protesters yelling in their faces and stopping the worship service as they sat in their pews praying.
 
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