MN - Journalist Don Lemon arrested for church protest, Minneapolis, 18 Jan 2026

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Ok. So because of the brutality of the Jocelyn Nungary case, the ICE agents should allowed some leeway in their actions? Right?
Huh??
 
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They should be allowed to remove criminal illegal aliens from our country. The ones who have committed more crimes other than the crime of being in the US illegally. Some states are blocking ICE from doing their lawful job. The leeway should be that they are facilitated in removing criminals.

Brutality? No. Not unless you consider removing a criminal as brutal. This is happening every day in many states and the agents are being helped by local
Police and state government. Why is this brutality, as you put it, happening in Minnesota and not Florida for example?
Florida is trump country, you must know that? MN is not and trump's 'enemy' lives there, it's very public and verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry clear why. IMO
 
  • #1,543
I can't help but wonder why Lemon as a journalist wasn't charged with trespassing. Looks like they went for sensational charges to rile up their base, but charges that will likely be tossed out. It looks like sensation and retaliation are the goals rather than justice, tbh. A tresspass charge makes a bit more sense and possibly could stick, but it's boring and isn't fodder for outrage.

I am not a Don Lemon viewer and am not following this case as a fan, except a fan for the first amendment.

My opinion.

p.s. I do not condone disrupting any worship service.
 
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I do know (imo) that Don and Georgia were documenting a protest - a protest that may never have happened if Renee (and then later, Alex) wasn't shot and killed by ICE.

I think that the killing(s) completely outraged the people, they protested in numerous ways (this being one of them imo), and the protests were ALL newsworthy.

imo
And the shootings wouldn't have happened if people just let ICE do their jobs.
 
  • #1,545
I can't help but wonder why Lemon as a journalist wasn't charged with trespassing. Looks like they went for sensational charges to rile up their base, but charghes that will likely be tossed out. It looks like sensation and retaliation are the goals rather than justice, tbh. A tresspass charge makes a bit more sense and possibly could stick, but it's boring and isn't fodder for outrage.

I am not a Don Lemon viewer and am not following this case as a fan, except a fan for the first amendment.

My opinion.

p.s. I do not condone disrupting any worship service.
Those charges have to brought through the St Paul PD and as we have seen they sort have their hands tied by their city leaders.
 
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And the shootings wouldn't have happened if people just let ICE do their jobs.
You are saying it’s Renee Good and Alex Pretti’s own fault that ice killed them??? Can you explain this?
 
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And the shootings wouldn't have happened if people just let ICE do their jobs.

That's a whole other story. One that I won't bite into on this thread. It is so contentious that we only have Media/Timeline threads here for Renee and Alex.

Don and Georgia were documenting this protest. And other journalists documented all of the other protests. There were many, they were ongoing and still are.

imo
 
  • #1,549
Exactly. Christian took an ugly turn a while back. It used to mean, to me, not Jewish, not Muslim and so on. PERIOD. It was simple, then suddenly 'Christian' became, BETTER THAN YOUUUUUU. IMO
Would you say that to a Jewish person or a Muslim? I’m guessing not
 
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That's a whole other story. One that I won't bite into on this thread.

Don and Georgia were documenting this protest. And other journalists documented all of the other protests. There were many, they were ongoing and still are.

imo
I thought people were saying this was all linked? or do we only link it as far back as it is helpful to our cause?
 
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dbm
 
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I thought people were saying this was all linked? or do we only link it as far back as it is helpful to our cause?

Contentious, please see the addition to my original post.

imo
 
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Yes, many were slave owners in the 1700s. None of us here today were. Our nation was founded one nation under God and that has been whittled away. Our current administration is bring back the principles that made the United States the greatest nation in the world! Everyone wants to come here after all.
The Pledge of Allegiance was written by Francis Bellamy in the late 1800’s, however there have been many edits to what he originally wrote and God was NOT mentioned in the first drafts of the pledge. The words “One nation under God” weren’t added to it until 1954, when Congress voted on Flag Day to add in that language, during the Cold War.


The pledge also says “liberty and justice FOR ALL” (and that was in the original pledge written in 1892). But God wasn’t mentioned in the first incarnation of the pledge. And our country was NOT founded on one nation, under God.
 
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Would you say that to a Jewish person or a Muslim? I’m guessing not
If it changed as much as the NAC types promoting racism and wanting dominion over all I sure would

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Florida is trump country, you must know that? MN is not and trump's 'enemy' lives there, it's very public and verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry clear why. IMO
Ok, Texas.. Arizona any other state then. ICE is working many many places and not being doxxed and blocked and demonized by the state’s government. It’s working other places.
 
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Those charges have to brought through the St Paul PD and as we have seen they sort have their hands tied by their city leaders.
The police were not even called to the scene, iirc. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

And federal judges (plural) REJECTED the case, and they clearly are not tied by city leaders.

My opinion.
 
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Ok, Texas.. Arizona any other state then. ICE is working many many places and not being doxxed and blocked and demonized by the state’s government. It’s working other places.
Protesters in my town, many horrified at a small college town targeted in the Midwest

Didn’t make right wing news channels obviously
 
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Would you say that to a Jewish person or a Muslim? I’m guessing not
The CHRISTIAN that became the 'CHRISTIANS' of the type that push their beliefs on others such as the white nationalists that call themselves, 'christians'. The 'christians' of the KIRK type, the haters, the ones that freely use hate speech and derogatory information towards everyone but themselves. It should be clear what I mean. NOT the original meaning of the Christian and the people. Catholics are Christian, all the main Protestant religions are Christian. It is the newer 'offshoots', the ones who hide behind the term while doing very NON Christian speaking. IMO..
 
  • #1,559
Well I think you are wrong. But I don't think any journalist should follow into a church and interview people while this is going on. That is becoming PART of the story, not covering it. Invading a church or place of worship is dangerous and incites VERY strong feelings. The "pastor/attorney" that led this protest knew this and is counting on it. DL is a smart guy, he knew what he was doing. I think it is disgusting and an insult to journalism. Does he think this increases people's of journalists? It doesn't. Stop making this about Trump. This is about a church in Minnesota.
You feel that way. But how do other journalists feel?


I trust a journalism to evaluate quality journalism over a stranger on the internet.

MOO
 
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You are saying it’s Renee Good and Alex Pretti’s own fault that ice killed them??? Can you explain this?
Oh I am very much saying that they both bear a lot of responsibility for their own deaths. How can you not? Renee's wife absolutely bears some fault. As does the the City of Minneapolis and probably many others.
 
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