MN - Justine Damond, 40, fatally shot by Minneapolis LE, 15 July 2017 #3

[mickey2942]

New article ....


The fiance of an unarmed woman killed by a former Minneapolis police officer said he wants police nationwide to learn from the case. Don Damond told "CBS This Morning," "This is a policing issue," in his first sit-down interview since former Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor was found guilty last week of murdering Justine Damond nearly two years ago.

"I cannot even still get my arms around how this could happen," Damond said.

Calling for change, Don is hoping police can learn from his heartbreak.

"I would like the Minneapolis Police Department to go back and consider what- how officers are trained," Don said. "I can understand where Black Lives Matter is so angry because you can see the unjustified shooting across this nation, but this is a blue issue."

Justine Damond's fiancé describes conversation minutes before her death

Perhaps, I think that statistically, the chances of a caucasian woman attacking police officers is almost null. That is what makes former Officer Noor's immediate response so shocking.

 

[PrairieWind]

Perhaps, I think that statistically, the chances of a caucasian woman attacking police officers is almost null. That is what makes former Officer Noor's immediate response so shocking.

I honestly don't think he even identified his target as a white female. I think he just saw a person approaching and fired. That just can't happen. I know police work is stressful, but I just can't understand how Noor allowed himself to get THAT jittery.

 

[mickey2942]

I honestly don't think he even identified his target as a white female. I think he just saw a person approaching and fired. That just can't happen. I know police work is stressful, but I just can't understand how Noor allowed himself to get THAT jittery.

Was there anything at the trial about medication Noor was taking? Had he been drug tested after the incident?

 

[PrairieWind]

Was there anything at the trial about medication Noor was taking? Had he been drug tested after the incident?

I don't recall anything being said at trial. Whether he submitted to a drug test after the shooting I don't know. He did not cooperate with the internal investigation, which is the reason he was actually fired. So I am guessing he probably didn't give a test sample.

 

[mickey2942]

I don't recall anything being said at trial. Whether he submitted to a drug test after the shooting I don't know. He did not cooperate with the internal investigation, which is the reason he was actually fired. So I am guessing he probably didn't give a test sample.

Disgust. But they definitely drug tested Justine, the victim!

 

[ilovewings]

Disgust. But they definitely drug tested Justine, the victim!

They sure as heck did!!! Treated Justine like a criminal!!! it was disgusting and I will bet you dollars to donuts they didn't search Noor's home nor test him for drugs!!!

 

[SouthAussie]

How long do Noor's attorneys have to decide if they are going to appeal?

Our lawyers only have 28 days here in which to make their decision and file the appeal.

 

[MsFacetious]

They sure as heck did!!! Treated Justine like a criminal!!! it was disgusting and I will bet you dollars to donuts they didn't search Noor's home nor test him for drugs!!!

Just like Botham.

 

[PrairieWind]

Disgust. But they definitely drug tested Justine, the victim!

Testing for drugs is standard in an autopsy. The search of her home for drugs would not be normal but was clearly a result of the totally erroneous statement by the Sgt Barnett at the scene that she must have been on drugs or drunk. That she still has a job tells you something. The city settled that lawsuit to avoid having to fix anything. I'm a bit surprised her family accepted that settlement. It achieved nothing and let the city totally off the hook.

 

[mickey2942]

Testing for drugs is standard in an autopsy. The search of her home for drugs would not be normal but was clearly a result of the totally erroneous statement by the Sgt Barnett at the scene that she must have been on drugs or drunk. That she still has a job tells you something. The city settled that lawsuit to avoid having to fix anything. I'm a bit surprised her family accepted that settlement. It achieved nothing and let the city totally off the hook.

My hubby and I discussed the settlement, heaven forbid we would ever be in that situation...I understand the family not wanting any more drama, and just taking it and leaving.

We would have stood firm for $50 million, rather than be specified to give $2 million to the Foundation. Forget it. I would have gone home, and let the legal team duke it out, and get all hiring records, discipline, training...all on the table.

 

[PrairieWind]

My hubby and I discussed the settlement, heaven forbid we would ever be in that situation...I understand the family not wanting any more drama, and just taking it and leaving.

We would have stood firm for $50 million, rather than be specified to give $2 million to the Foundation. Forget it. I would have gone home, and let the legal team duke it out, and get all hiring records, discipline, training...all on the table.

The settlement was unusual. The amount the city paid is well above what these normally settle for. Which tells you that Minneapolis's city council knew they were in deep trouble with the suit. But it also tells you that the council had a HUGE motive to stop the suit and not be subjected to discovery requirements. I am disappointed that Justine's family let them off the hook. And as an attorney, I would have NEVER advised my client to agree to that donation requirement. I actually question the legality of that to be honest.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Testing for drugs is standard in an autopsy. The search of her home for drugs would not be normal but was clearly a result of the totally erroneous statement by the Sgt Barnett at the scene that she must have been on drugs or drunk. That she still has a job tells you something. The city settled that lawsuit to avoid having to fix anything. I'm a bit surprised her family accepted that settlement. It achieved nothing and let the city totally off the hook.

SBM: Totally erroneous statement by the Sgt Barnett at the scene that she must have been on drugs or drunk. That she still has a job tells you something. The city settled that lawsuit to avoid having to fix anything.

The city should be ashamed. What a disgrace and injustice.

 

[mickey2942]

The settlement was unusual. The amount the city paid is well above what these normally settle for. Which tells you that Minneapolis's city council knew they were in deep trouble with the suit. But it also tells you that the council had a HUGE motive to stop the suit and not be subjected to discovery requirements. I am disappointed that Justine's family let them off the hook. And as an attorney, I would have NEVER advised my client to agree to that donation requirement. I actually question the legality of that to be honest.

You and me are on the same page on that one. It was a "settlement" with conditions for the victim's family? Nope.

It was probably some tax deal. If so, fine, I would have picked my own charitable fund. Something against Affirmative Action hiring.

 

[PrairieWind]

You and me are on the same page on that one. It was a "settlement" with conditions for the victim's family? Nope.

It was probably some tax deal. If so, fine, I would have picked my own charitable fund. Something against Affirmative Action hiring.

That "charity" has 3/4 of a billion dollars in assets. Its not spending money to fight gun violence. It is an organization whose sole goal is influencing local politics. Its board of directors IS the de facto city council. Look at its stated goals. It supports and furthers the mind set that not only allowed, but encouraged, a very unqualified man to be on the police force that night that led to Justine's murder. And they just got $2 million more to further those goals. The more I think about this, the more angry I get. I can't believe Justine's family fully understood who these people are.

 

[mickey2942]

That "charity" has 3/4 of a billion dollars in assets. Its not spending money to fight gun violence. It is an organization whose sole goal is influencing local politics. Its board of directors IS the de facto city council. Look at its stated goals. It supports and furthers the mind set that not only allowed, but encouraged, a very unqualified man to be on the police force that night that led to Justine's murder. And they just got $2 million more to further those goals. The more I think about this, the more angry I get. I can't believe Justine's family fully understood who these people are.

I believe that her family is just shattered to pieces. Numb with shock, grief, sadness. I am sure I would be devastated if something like that happened to my daughter. Even 3, 4 years later...losing a child is beyond crushing.

 

[PrairieWind]

I believe that her family is just shattered to pieces. Numb with shock, grief, sadness. I am sure I would be devastated if something like that happened to my daughter. Even 3, 4 years later...losing a child is beyond crushing.

I am sure you are totally correct. I can't imagine their grief. I just think that this settlement didn't achieve any of their stated goals in bringing the suit originally.

 

[SouthAussie]

My hubby and I discussed the settlement, heaven forbid we would ever be in that situation...I understand the family not wanting any more drama, and just taking it and leaving.

We would have stood firm for $50 million, rather than be specified to give $2 million to the Foundation. Forget it. I would have gone home, and let the legal team duke it out, and get all hiring records, discipline, training...all on the table.

I wonder if the amount in the city's self insurance fund had something to do with why Justine's family settled for the $20 million. There wasnt much more than that in the fund.


"Damond's settlement nearly empties out the city's self-insurance fund, which is at $27 million for this year. That leaves $7 million for other claims like workers comp, vehicle crashes, and lawsuits like (Jamar) Clark's with several others still pending.
With that reserve fund drying up and it being only May, staff at the finance office said they intend to work with the Mayor and City Council members to come up with ways to replenish it."
Settlement talks resume between City of Minneapolis, Jamar Clark's parents in civil rights case

 

[SouthAussie]

How long do Noor's attorneys have to decide if they are going to appeal?

Our lawyers only have 28 days here in which to make their decision and file the appeal.

I have been looking and looking for an answer to my above question.
I think the statute of limitations for appealing a murder conviction may be 90 days in Minneapolis.

In felony and gross misdemeanor cases, an appeal by the defendant must be filed within 90 days after final judgment or entry of the order being appealed. Other charges that were joined for prosecution with the felony or gross misdemeanor may be included in the appeal.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/court_rules/cr/id/28/

 

[ilovewings]

My hubby and I discussed the settlement, heaven forbid we would ever be in that situation...I understand the family not wanting any more drama, and just taking it and leaving.

We would have stood firm for $50 million, rather than be specified to give $2 million to the Foundation. Forget it. I would have gone home, and let the legal team duke it out, and get all hiring records, discipline, training...all on the table.

I really do not want to be snarky, but my goodness, we are talking about a family that has been through hell, something most of us will hopefully never ever have to experience. Far be it from me to criticize their decision to settle this case for a huge amount of money TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS!!!!! You can say, i wouldn't do this, or i would have turned it down--- you have no idea what you would do under those circumstances---that is an enormous amount of money: the family has to think ABOUT ITSELF- they have financial needs too -- their goals don't just include making the police department accountable and having the MPD change their hiring policies and procedures: they have personal goals and personal issues --- I think they just wanted this whole thing to be over, and who would criticize them for that? they
got what they wanted most: Noor was convicted of murder and manslaughter.
My heart goes out to them and I admire them for all the class they have shown under the most dire of circumstances: They have chosen to settle this case; bless them and their decisions.

 

[SouthAussie]

Seems that it has now been decided that the city of Minneapolis is going to raise property taxes to recoup its money.


"That money is going to have to be replenished, and that's going to come from property taxes primarily" Carol Becker, chair of the city's Board of Estimate and Taxation, told the Star Tribune.
"People's levies are going to go up."
Justine Damond Settlement Could Increase Property Taxes: Report