MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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  • #1,941
Just watched the video. It's VERY clear to see the vehicle's wheels were totally turned away from the ICE officer who fired the shots. In no way was the driver trying to hit anyone with her car. That other person (a civilian?) on the passenger side of the vehicle could have easily been a second fatality from those gunshots too. What a wildly reckless and ultimately murderous act by ICE. AJMO
100% accurate. I hope his conscience is eating him up. He knows in his heart he has made the worst decision of his life. No matter how anyone else tries to spin it, he knows. Video does not lie. Our government has been operating like a terrorist operation, and it's out of control. Instead of watching the piggybank closer, they are busy rousting and harassing the populace like wolves after sheep. We already see that they are standing behind their man, and demonizing the victim. Just nauseating. MOO.
My God. The killer's face is known. Blast it everywhere, he took off, did nothing but take off, fast. She was leaving, she was antagonized, antagonization and confusion, heading away. VIDEOS and eyewitnesses do not lie. Sent by 'your' federal government, kill, injure and traumatize anyone you deem 'worthy' of. Thugs. Wonder if even one will 'get a conscience' as the woman was shouting. She along with the others put their own lives on the line to bear witness and call out. ICE was sent there to roam and show themselves, roam the streets, Brown Shirts did that in Nazi Germany as well, roamed and killed and harmed. Never have we lived under this nightmare in America till .... IMO
This is not the same country I was raised in. I have found myself wondering what fresh misery the administration will visit on us next. I am learning what it's like to fear my government. It's a horrible feeling.
 
  • #1,942
To my eyes and ears, in watching all the available videos from the shooting, I would not catagorize what happened as an accident. A person is told to leave, in doing so they say something snarky that ticks someone else off who then tries to open a moving vehicle's door. As the person is turning the wheel to drive away they are shot twice through the front windshield and once through the driver's side window. The shooter then calls the person they've killed a very derogatory name. Not an accident, definitely an overreaction on the shooter's part brought on by their anger. ALL just my opinion.
Agree. It was serious, indeed. But an accident? No. You say something like, "Oh, no!" after an accident. You don't spew misogynistic slurs after an accident.

The shooting looks 100% deliberate to me, but I agree that it would be a jury to determine this.

Why isn't Ross arrested and awaiting trial?

MOO
 
  • #1,943
You should be volunteering at school, not exercising your silly constitutional rights!
(I'm proud of you, and will be supporting your efforts tomorrow one hundred percent)
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IMO
Me too!
 
  • #1,944
There is a dangerous undercurrent/implication that those who disagree with the administration deserve to be summarily executed in the street.
There is also a reckless belief that anyone is immune from being the one executed.

In my opinion, if this could happen to Good, it could happen to anyone.

MOO
 
  • #1,945
100% accurate. I hope his conscience is eating him up. He knows in his heart he has made the worst decision of his life. No matter how anyone else tries to spin it, he knows. Video does not lie. Our government has been operating like a terrorist operation, and it's out of control. Instead of watching the piggybank closer, they are busy rousting and harassing the populace like wolves after sheep. We already see that they are standing behind their man, and demonizing the victim. Just nauseating. MOO.

This is not the same country I was raised in. I have found myself wondering what fresh misery the administration will visit on us next. I am learning what it's like to fear my government. It's a horrible feeling.
The very idea of masked government agents detaining people would have been unthinkable. That's what happens in third world dictatorships. Tienanmen Square was more justified than this shooting (and to be clear, that was an horrific abuse of government power and human rights)
 
  • #1,946
I asked Google AI if ICE was justified in Demanding RG Exit Her Vehicle.
The answer is pretty much a summary of this entire thread. So I post it here, and wonder if anyone has anything to add?
The legal justification for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents demanding that Renee Good get out of her car is a matter of intense public and legal debate, with no definitive court ruling as investigations are ongoing. Opinions are sharply divided, largely based on differing interpretations of bystander and agent video footage.

Arguments for Justification (Federal Government's Position)
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and other federal officials argue that the agents were justified in their demands and subsequent use of force:
  • Obstruction of Law Enforcement: Federal officials claim that Good was interfering with an active law enforcement operation and blocking their vehicles with her SUV.
  • Safety Threat/Weaponized Vehicle: Officials, including DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, stated that Good ignored repeated commands to exit the car and stop, then "weaponized" her vehicle by attempting to run over an agent. They contend that a vehicle used to harm someone is a deadly weapon, making the use of deadly force lawful when an officer's life is threatened.
  • Agent's History: The agent who fired the shots, Jonathan Ross, had been seriously injured in a prior incident six months earlier where a suspect dragged him with a car, which officials suggest influenced his perception of the threat.

Arguments Against Justification (Eyewitnesses and Critics' Position)
Eyewitnesses, local officials, and civil rights advocates dispute the federal government's narrative:
  • Conflicting Orders: Eyewitnesses and video analysis indicate that agents gave Good conflicting orders, with one agent telling her to drive away while another shouted at her to get out of the SUV.
  • No Immediate Threat: Video footage reviewed by several news organizations and experts suggests that Good appeared to be trying to steer away from the agents when she accelerated. CNN's analysis of multiple videos found that other cars were able to drive around her vehicle, potentially undermining the claim she was completely "blocking" agents or posing an unavoidable threat.
  • Lack of Legal Basis for Detention: Good was a U.S. citizen and a legal observer, not a target of the ICE operation, and critics argue there were no apparent legal grounds to detain or order her out of her vehicle in the first place.
  • Tactical Errors: Some law enforcement analysts questioned the agent's tactics, including holding a cellphone while approaching the vehicle and potentially creating "self-created jeopardy" by positioning himself in the vehicle's path.
The question of justification remains central to the ongoing investigation, which is being handled solely by the FBI after federal officials blocked state and local authorities from participating. This has led to concerns from Minnesota's governor and local prosecutors about the fairness and transparency of the investigation.
 
  • #1,947
They didn't tell her to get out of the car. They said "get out of the f*ucking car" while grabbing the door handle. Big difference. And that was after the other officers told her to move, which she was doing. The bigger picture is that these guys don't know what they are doing.
This!

In addition to the fact that there was chaos and conflicting commands, that command in isolation would make any reasonable person feel unsafe with exiting a car.

MOO
 
  • #1,948
Wrong. There’s a reason she was perpendicular

they were trying to!!! Did you see the wife outside the vehicle taunting them?
“Taunting them?” IMO, the murderer was the one taunting, or didn’t you hear his oh-so-professional “f——— b——“ comment?
 
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  • #1,950
Trump said the ICE agent is recovering in hospital. Funny he wasn’t injured whatsoever and was seen walking after he killed this poor woman.
Probably psych. He has to be thoroughly vetted to make sure he has his story straight. They will make him believe their official version is correct. He will be protected and propped up, then probably pensioned off after the heat blows over. MOO.
 
  • #1,951
Hopeless to respond,

Futile to respond to posters who’s views of humanity and lacking empathy sound so hateful
Agreed.
 
  • #1,952
I think what it also comes down to is that the right doesn’t think Officer Ross made ANY mistakes or is at all responsible for any of his own actions. She was murdered, Im sorry but that’s just a fact. You can think it was justified but she was still shot to death by officer Ross. Sure, if Renee Good didn’t decide to go protest that day, she would still be alive. But it is her right to protest as an American citizen. MOO
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  • #1,953
There is also a reckless belief that anyone is immune from being the one executed.

In my opinion, if this could happen to Good, it could happen to anyone.

MOO
It certainly could happen to anyone. The ICE agents had driven past her and went back to confront her. This could have happened to anyone.
 
  • #1,954
I asked Google AI if ICE was justified in Demanding RG Exit Her Vehicle.
The answer is pretty much a summary of this entire thread. So I post it here, and wonder if anyone has anything to add?
I find it interesting that the only justification for asking RG to exit her car, from the Fed's perspective, is that she was interfering with an active investigation and blocking their vehicles. All the other verbiage does not support asking her to exit the car, but tries to support the agent's use of lethal force.

So, what IS the crime of interfering and blocking vehicles? Understanding the Legal Implications of Interfering with Immigration Enforcement - Birdsall Muller LLC
ICE officers are sworn federal law enforcement officers who operate within the confines of the law. Pursuant to federal law ICE officers have the authority to arrest undocumented immigrants without a judicial warrant.

1. Obstruction of Justice: Under federal law, obstructing an officer in the performance of their official duties is a serious offense. This includes actions such as physically blocking ICE agents, providing false information, or using intimidation to prevent an arrest. Depending on the circumstances, individuals could face misdemeanor or felony charges, leading to fines and potential jail time.
So IF they had authority to detain her, and IF she fled, they would go arrest her at her home or wherever. They had her contact info. This is what police officers do. When trying to force the issue is going to create more risk, they follow and capture when able.
 
  • #1,955
100% accurate. I hope his conscience is eating him up. He knows in his heart he has made the worst decision of his life. No matter how anyone else tries to spin it, he knows. Video does not lie. Our government has been operating like a terrorist operation, and it's out of control. Instead of watching the piggybank closer, they are busy rousting and harassing the populace like wolves after sheep. We already see that they are standing behind their man, and demonizing the victim. Just nauseating. MOO.

This is not the same country I was raised in. I have found myself wondering what fresh misery the administration will visit on us next. I am learning what it's like to fear my government. It's a horrible feeling.
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  • #1,956
You can also see the moment he pulls his gun.

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The agent is standing in front of the vehicle when he unholsters his firearm, but only after the driver shifts into drive and initiates forward movement. The entire sequence occurs within a split second. imo
 
  • #1,957
Agree. It was serious, indeed. But an accident? No. You say something like, "Oh, no!" after an accident. You don't spew misogynistic slurs after an accident.

The shooting looks 100% deliberate to me, but I agree that it would be a jury to determine this.

Why isn't Ross arrested and awaiting trial?

MOO
Hopefully after investigation, someone will explain
Agree. It was serious, indeed. But an accident? No. You say something like, "Oh, no!" after an accident. You don't spew misogynistic slurs after an accident.

The shooting looks 100% deliberate to me, but I agree that it would be a jury to determine this.

Why isn't Ross arrested and awaiting trial?

MOO
This is an interesting article and debunks the claims of federal agents having "absolute immunity".

 
  • #1,958
Right. The killer was taking mild teasing personally, and the victim attempted to deescalate by reminding him she wasn't mad at him personally.

But Ross was out of control of his own feelings. He had no business carrying a gun, IMO. Let alone working for ICE.

Not to give Ross a pass, but this situation was partially caused by poor training and a chaotic scene caused by ICE. And partially caused by anyone giving a man as fragile as Ross a badge and allowing him to carry a gun as a professional.

MOO
Amen
 
  • #1,959
The agent is standing in front of the vehicle when he unholsters his firearm, but only after the driver shifts into drive and initiates forward movement. The entire sequence occurs within a split second. imo
If your perspective were correct, wouldn’t the most rational move be for Ross to simply get out of the way?
 
  • #1,960
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I can see with my natural intelligence that the killing of Renee Good looks like a murder.

I also have learned that we are a country of due process, and that what can be reported on in the media is different from what can be admitted into court. I am aware that there is likely evidence and details I have not yet seen. Thus, I'd like lawyers and prosecutors to hash out what can be brought to trial and I'd like to see a fair trial of Ross before a jury of his peers.

MOO
 
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