MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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  • #461
Except that a slowed down video shows that he didn't draw his weapon until the vehicle moved towards him so you can't say his only goal was to shoot her.
I watched the slowed down vehicle. He was drawing as she was in reverse, and as she turns her wheels AWAY from him, to the right. If he had thought to take a step back instead of immediately thinking to shoot, there would not have been an issue.
 
  • #462
She appeared to be driving away.
I think so as well. Though I also acknowledge that the officer would not have been able to read her mind.
 
  • #463
Except that a slowed down video shows that he didn't draw his weapon until the vehicle moved towards him so you can't say his only goal was to shoot her.
The victim was trying to turn around and drive away.
 
  • #464
Multiple eyewitnesses report ICE telling her to leave. It’s upthread.

I wish I could find a video of maybe a minute or two before all the videos I am finding so far start. I understand that witnesses are reporting it but every video I see either has no audio at all or starts when the officer approaches her door telling her to get out of the car.
 
  • #465
Except that a slowed down video shows that he didn't draw his weapon until the vehicle moved towards him so you can't say his only goal was to shoot her.
At the moment he draw his gun he had already decided to shoot her in her face. He only aims at her face. Not one shot but two or three shots. In a split second. Maybe even overkill. The victim had to wait for an ambulance for almost a quarter. Then she was pulled out of the car at her arms and legs to be walked to a stretcher who wasn’t nearby because of all the ICE cars who blocked the street. A doctor nearby the scene wanted to help her but they told HIM that ICE will sent help for her. So she’s bleeding to death and didn’t receive any paramedical help for a quarter after been shot multiple times in her face.
 
  • #466
At the moment he draw his gun he had already decided to shoot her in her face. He only aims at her face. Not one shot but two or three shots. In a split second. Maybe even overkill. The victim had to wait for an ambulance for almost a quarter. Then she was pulled out of the car at her arms and legs to be walked to a stretcher who wasn’t nearby because of all the ICE cars who blocked the street. A doctor nearby the scene wanted to help her but they told HIM that ICE will sent help for her. So she’s bleeding to death and didn’t receive any paramedical help for a quarter after been shot multiple times in her face.
I count 3 shots, two from the front and one from the side.
 
  • #467
These screencaps are from the clip BNO News posted - it’s on the first page of this thread, around #16 or #17. I don’t see how this is defensible.
 

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  • #468
She wasn't blocking the street, IMO. Cars were literally going around her.
The video I saw featured one car going around her as she crept forward as it if to block it.

A second car stopped. I have a feeling that if I were to position my car perpendicular to traffic and then creep towards other cars in other lanes, the local police would consider me to be blocking a street.
 
  • #469
The land of the free lol.

So many people here are saying Americans must instantly obey these masked, plainclothed, ID-less, half-trained heavies if you don't want to be shot three times in the face and have your fellow citizens say you deserved it for not being obedient enough.

Sure. Sounds like a free society to me.
Absolutely. Where I live it's 3 year's training to be a police officer, and even then they are unarmed. <modsnip: off topic>
 
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  • #470
The land of the free lol.

So many people here are saying Americans must instantly obey these masked, plainclothed, ID-less, half-trained heavies if you don't want to be shot three times in the face and have your fellow citizens say you deserved it for not being obedient enough.

Sure. Sounds like a free society to me.
It’s actually sickening to me.
 
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She was trying to get out at the least possible mph she could go. They told her to get out of here. I could not drive my Toyota 4wd so slowly and keep it running, without playing with the clutch/brakes. His choice to murder her caused her car to actually become the weapon it hadn't been before.
 
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  • #473
Is there video from the front of the car? Could it be possible an agent was in front?
No, there were no humans in front of her car, but it doesn't matter. Shooting at the driver would still have been inappropriate.

ICE is trained that shooting at the driver of a car does not stop it.

Think about it. A dead person doesn't apply the brakes. And as it turns out, her car did indeed continue after the murder. Thus, the training is to not shoot at the driver with the intent of stopping the car.

There is a link for this and other trained protocol up thread. Feel free to find it.

MOO
 
  • #474
She was trying to get out at the least possible mph she could go. They told her to get out of here.
I"ll do an experiment with my car today. I maybe able to turn in a circle slower than she did.
 
  • #475
NYT analysis


"The moment the agent fires, he is standing here to the left of the SUV and the wheels are pointing to the right away from the agent.

This appears to conflict with allegations that the SUV was ramming or about to ram the officer. President Trump and others said the federal agent was hit by the SUV, often pointing to another video filmed from a different angle. And it’s true that at this moment, in this grainy, low-resolution footage, it does look like the agent is being struck by the SUV.

But when we synchronize it with the first clip, we can see the agent is not being run over. In fact, his feet are positioned away from the SUV."
 
  • #476
<modsnip>
The police in my country does not shoot people in, uh, anything without valid cause. What this woman did would not be deemed a valid cause and the police officer would be most probably arrested and tried.
 
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  • #477
The video I saw featured one car going around her as she crept forward as it if to block it.

A second car stopped. I have a feeling that if I were to position my car perpendicular to traffic and then creep towards other cars in other lanes, the local police would consider me to be blocking a street.
And would you expect to them to try to open your car door and forcibly remove you from your vehicle? Or shoot you multiple times in point blank range? Is that how you would expect that situation to be handled?

Perhaps she was “creeping forward” so that she could see around the car parked in the road in order to make a turn and go down the street? When you are pulling out and making a turn, that’s pretty standard road rules.
 
  • #478
I"ll do an experiment with my car today. I maybe able to turn in a circle slower than she did.
While doing that, have someone yell "get out of here" as another burly masked 🤬🤬🤬🤬 yells "stop" while both aim guns at you and reach in through the window to grab you. Point is, her car was a danger to no one until after he murdered her.
 
  • #479
I watched the slowed down vehicle. He was drawing as she was in reverse, and as she turns her wheels AWAY from him, to the right. If he had thought to take a step back instead of immediately thinking to shoot, there would not have been an issue.
He didnt draw until AFTER the tires spun momentarily as she pressed the gas to move forward. Her reverse lights were off and the tires were still straight towards him as he's drawing his weapon.
 
  • #480
I wish I could find a video of maybe a minute or two before all the videos I am finding so far start. I understand that witnesses are reporting it but every video I see either has no audio at all or starts when the officer approaches her door telling her to get out of the car.
There are plenty of videos with audio available. The longest clip I have seen starts with her waving the ice cars along and saying something like “go around”. One car does (because she isn’t blocking the street), but others stop, masked men jump out yelling, one is yanking at her door, one is walking around the car (with a phone in his hand), we know the rest…
 
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