Thanks, I was wondering the same thing.Have the emoji/reactions disappeared on the thread?
tia
Thanks, I was wondering the same thing.Have the emoji/reactions disappeared on the thread?
tia
Perhaps. But, their job, ostensibly, is to apprehend criminal immigrants - not to shoot unarmed, American mothers in the face. IMHO.
And if the gun went off because he was jolted, yet was able to shoot through the windshield, that means he had the gun drawn and pointed in that direction.In watching many views I never saw him jolted, I saw him shoot a citizen in cold blood for absolutely no reason
Perhaps. But, their job, ostensibly, is to apprehend criminal immigrants - not to shoot unarmed, American mothers in the face. IMHO.
Exactly.And if the gun went off because he was jolted, yet was able to shoot through the windshield, that means he had the gun drawn and pointed in that direction.
I, respectfully, disagree. His ONLY job is immigration enforcement. In this particular case, that is not what he was doing. IMHO.LE authority does not turn off because someone is a US citizen, a mother, unarmed in the sense of not holding a gun. A moving 4000 pound vehicle used against an officer is a deadly weapon . His job in that moment was not immigration enforcement , it was self defense. IMO
Perfectly said. Thank you.I, respectfully, disagree. His ONLY job is immigration enforcement. In this particular case, that is not what he was doing. IMHO.
Also Graham v. ConnorThat’s an emotional distortion of what happened from my perspective. This isn’t about being fine with killing, dancing or personality. She was interfering in a federal operation (like it or not, they are doing their jobs), parked her car perpendicular in the darn road, she refused commands, she backed up, again she’s being told to get out of the car, she backs up, then accelerates, a four thousand pound moving vehicle coming at the agent, her vehicle then made contact with the agent. In that split second it became a perceived lethal threat assessment. Multiple shots are fired because officers are trained to shoot until the threat stops. There is no rule that one shot is enough. His aim was deliberate and targeted.
It’s incredibly sad that Ms. Good* has been killed. It is. I’m also relieved this agent was not injured. He was doing his job.
Si now what. This could be a civil case, that I strongly believe goes no where. Perhaps criminal charges, again that I believe goes no where.
Tennessee vs Gardner is the standard that likely rules in favor of the agent.
All my opinion
Edited: *name spelling correction
Thank you! Very interesting as I haven't seen anything that could be construed as any of those circumstances.Its agents have the power to stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. They can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally.
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What is ICE and what powers do its agents have to use force?
The immigration agency is under scrutiny following the fatal shooting of Minneapolis woman Renee Nicole Good.www.bbc.com
Thank you.Its agents have the power to stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. They can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally.
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What is ICE and what powers do its agents have to use force?
The immigration agency is under scrutiny following the fatal shooting of Minneapolis woman Renee Nicole Good.www.bbc.com
Thank you from me too.Thank you.
Guns go off that easily?
It does seem the "don't tread on me" crowd are the ones that are welcoming the imposition of a police state.It's richly ironic that Ross is opposed to government over-reach. By all appearances, he abused his government job to trample on the most basic of civil rights: life.
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yep the "don't tread on me" crowd are happy to be treading on other peopleIt does seem the "don't tread on me" crowd are the ones that are welcoming the imposition of a police state.
As per usual for themyep the "don't tread on me" crowd are happy to be treading on other people
one rule for me and another for thee
Really? He had his finger on the trigger and was pointing it at her face... But it was just an accident that it went off?Probably the gun went off because the officer was Jolted when he got run into. And he was a part of the group taking part in detaining the... persons of interest.
It's quite ironic in that this is precisely why the 2nd amendment exists.As per usual for them