MO - Furious Friends Demand Answers After 3 Men Found Dead at Kansas City Home Days After Watching Football Game, January 2024 #2

[MyBelle]

One male family member pounded on the door for 20 minutes shortly before the fiancee got no answer at the door and eventually broke into the home.

For 20 minutes? Did JW recognize or even know who was pounding on his door?

We've lived here for 32 years and nowadays we do NOT answer our door if we do not recognize who is pounding on it. Our Ring doorbell alerts us with a video. We also don't answer phone calls with names/numbers we don't recognize. It is sad how crime has overtaken home safety.

We never locked our house door into the garage until our neighbors had their vehicle stolen out of their garage.

JMO

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Wow, I hadn't seen this particular article and the parent's speculations that they could've been purposely murdered, and also the serious accusations being made against JW. Thanks for posting it.

The three men were so loved. It must be torture to wait for their families & loved ones, but I think they should all hold off on statements to the media and wait for the results.

It seems the father is saying even if it shows to be drugs, he's not going to accept it being anything less than murder because he thinks someone purposely drugged all three to death? What does he think they could've possibly seen? Will they accept the results presented from the investigation? Shocking unexplained deaths at this point. These parents are in the throes of grief and going through it publicly. I feel sorry for their tragic loss of a cherished loved one.​

It might have helped them have faith in the investigation if LE hadn't ruled out foul play immediately, had secured the scene and done a thorough investigation, and if JW, via his lawyer, hadn't changed the story umpteen times. I can't imagine being in their shoes. The story, none of them, makes no sense.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

For 20 minutes? Did JW recognize or even know who was pounding on his door?

We've lived here for 32 years and nowadays we do NOT answer our door if we do not recognize who is pounding on it. Our Ring doorbell alerts us with a video. We also don't answer phone calls with names/numbers we don't recognize. It is sad how crime has overtaken home safety.

We never locked our house door into the garage until our neighbors had their vehicle stolen out of their garage.

JMO

According to his first accounts, he doesn't lock his front door. If that's to be believed, I don't think he's too concerned.

 

[MyBelle]

According to his first accounts, he doesn't lock his front door. If that's to be believed, I don't think he's too concerned.

He may not need to lock his front door because he has a security system. Do you know for a fact that he doesn't have a security system? Please provide a link.

JMO

 

[branmuffin]

I think it's going to be awhile until we get the tox reports related to the autopsy. Under normal circumstances it usually takes about 3 weeks. I foresee mid-February before we get results unless they are fast tracked. When you're dealing with frozen corpses, that timeline can be extended anywhere up to a week and beyond.

It's very tricky defrosting a corpse. You can't do it quickly because if you do, you risk parts of the body beginning to decompose, such as the extremities, while the trunk is still frozen. So even if they died on Jan 7, we don't know how long before they actually became completely frozen. Without sounding callous, I keep my freezer around 0 degrees F. The temperature the night of the 7th was hovering around 32F which is cold enough to cause frostbite on extremities like fingers and toes but not enough to freeze the trunk. By morning the temperature had dropped considerably and it had started to snow. So decomposition probably didn't occur in the extremities but may have slightly in the trunk where the organs are, especially for the two deceased who had more adipose tissue.

I hope the defrosting of the bodies doesn't compromise the levels of any toxins, alcohol, drugs or poisons that may have been injected or ingested from whatever source. I remember a famous case in Toronto where a nurse was accused of murdering several at-risk babies in the hospital. Her case was thrown out eventually because the drug she was accused of administering to the babies also spread through the body post mortem giving an inaccurate portrayal of the doses given, so by the time the autopsies took place, the dissipation had already occurred. It was also found out years later, that the latex rubber used in the seals of the IV tubes and syringes leached into the administered drugs essentially poisoning them with the accumulated drugs. Another woman, a Dutch nurse, was acquitted years later of the very crime the Toronto nurse was charged with.

At this point in time, I await the results and believe that JW is not responsible for their deaths.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

It's been days now, and the things we know for sure as established fact are pretty limited, IMO.

As far as I can see, all we really know is that these men died at that home that was being rented by JW, and their bodies were found outside.

We don't know where they watched the game. We don't know for sure whether JW's dogs were at the house that day or not. I could go on and on.

At this point I'm going to give up trying to make sense of this until there is some information from official sources.

Maddening.

 

[apeXperience]

Here are 1) a tentative timeline of events as reported and/or verified and 2) relevant questions, thus far:

• Sunday, January 7 at 3:25 p.m. on CBS: the Kansas City Chiefs against the Los Angeles Chargers Game Time.
• JW is alone at home.
  Why do the 3 deceased’s relatives and multiple MSM report that they went to JW’s place to watch this game?
• Jan 7th at 7 pm, Person #5 arrived at the residence of JW.
  Person #5 is referred to as “HE” in MSM reports, which infers Person #5 is a male.
  What was the purpose of Person #5’s visit?
  Did Person #5 bring "anything" to the house?
  Did Person #5 watched TV, ate, drank etc. with JW for 2 hours between 7 and 9 pm?
  The answers are to shed light about Person #5 and JW’s relationship since there seem some animosity between their respective criminal defense attorneys!
• Jan 7th after 9 pm, the 3 “friends” (38-year-old Ricky Johnson, 37-year-old David Harrington, and 36-year-old Clayton McGeeney) arrived at the residence of JW from watching, apparently from somewhere else, the Kansas City Chiefs’ game.
  What was the purpose of the 3 “friends” visit?
  Did the 3 “friends” bring “anything” to the house?
  Does JW partook or participated with “anything” done at his place?
  Did the 3 “friends” arrived in 2 cars, since 2 cars were reportedly parked in the street adjacent to the JW residence according the multiple MSM reports?
  Which 2 out of the 3 were the life long friends, potentially high school buddies, of 38-year-old JW?
  36-year-old Clayton McGeeney is reported by relatives to have earned 20 years of work experience fixing house floors. Hence, he started this line of work perhaps from the age of 16.
  How did Clayton McGeeney knew JW since their lines of work are vastly different?
  Was Clayton McGeeney’s car one of the 2 parked in the street adjacent to the JW residence?
• Jan 8th shortly after midnight, Person #5 left the JW residence; And the 4 men, JW and the 3 victims, were all alive and watching TV, as reported per Person #5’s attorney.
  Between 9 pm and midnight, were there only the 5 men or other persons joined in and out, potentially bringing “anything”?
  Did JW prepared drinks, foods, and/or “anything” else … for the “party”?
  Or, did JW’s guests bring what “oiled” the “party” since they used his home as lounge for a gathering they could not organize around their women and children, at their own home?
  These questions are relevant and very important, to help make a determination about who furnished what to whom.
• Jan 8th around 2 am, it is alleged, as reported by multiple MSM sources but vigorously disputed by some people, that either 1) JW ushered his 3 “friends” to the door and went to sleep, or 2) JW went to sleep and his 3 “friends” stayed or left by their own volution, or 3) both, JW ushered them out but they stayed anyhow.
  Everything else seem simple besides this sticky and confusing part!
• Jan 9th at 9:51 pm, 6 police cars with flashing lights and sirens wailing or yelping arrived, as a result of the “alarm call” given by AM, the fiance of Clayton McGeeney, who discovered one of the 3 victims after breaking in the JW residence.
  What alerted AM to this house?
  Does AM know JW?
  Was Clayton McGeeney’s car 1 of the 2 cars parked in the street adjacent to the JW residence?
  What were JW doing in the 44 hours from Jan 8th around 2 am to Jan 9th at 9:51 pm?
  Did people called him and knocked on his front door and break in his house when he was asleep?
  Since not many people sleep 44 hours straight, what were JW doing with his computers or phone or other things in his home when he was not asleep?

I do not check frequently 1) the cars parked in the streets adjacent to my residence or 2) my backyard during snowy winter.
I don’t know why people expect JW to identify snowed down parked cars or frequently inspect a snowed backyard.
But feel free to disagree, please.

I am enumerating this tentative timeline of events and verbalizing some relevant questions to help foresee what the Coroners and the KSPD officers are expected to share after they get their toxicology and postmortem reports.
I foresee that blames will be sprinkled; and KSPD will reveal the sources of “anything” that went on, which sources should get most blames.

Lastly, you do not call the attention of the police or demand a welfare check on your relatives when you knew that they could get in trouble as a result due to the potential "anything" they might use, or have, or do. I do not point fingers or assigned blames but I am just attempting to rationalize why would people bang on some strangers' door (you are related to my acquaintance doe not make you my acquaintance also) or break into their house rather than to call the police for a free, clean, and quick courtesy welfare check.
Again, feel free to disagree, please.

 

[MyBelle]

According to his first accounts, he doesn't lock his front door. If that's to be believed, I don't think he's too concerned.

If he has a security system in place, he doesn't have to lock his front door because it locks itself. It would be great if you provide links.

JMO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

At this point in time, I await the results and believe that JW is not responsible for their deaths.

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I don't believe JW is responsible for their deaths either, but the conflicting statements his lawyer has put out sure make him look hinky.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

He may not need to lock his front door because he has a security system. Do you know for a fact that he doesn't have a security system? Please provide a link.

JMO

If he had a security system, it must've resembled sleigh bells hanging on a door knob. His security system failed to go off when a basement window was broken and someone used it as a point of ingress, walking up to the main floor.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

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I don't believe JW is responsible for their deaths either, but the conflicting statements his lawyer has put out sure make him look hinky.

The lawyer isn't going to put out anything other than what he's received from his client. JW is the one changing the narrative.

 

[MyBelle]

If he had a security system, it must've resembled sleigh bells hanging on a door knob. His security system failed to go off when a basement window was broken and someone used it as a point of ingress, walking up to the main floor.

A doorbell security system--at even other entrances to the house--do not involve windows. Breaking into them in order to enter a house IS a crime.

Per the mods on this forum, I consider the resident of the home to be a victim,

JMO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

The lawyer isn't going to put out anything other than what he's received from his client. JW is the one changing the narrative.

A lawyer isn't supposed to be a puppet simply mouthing the words of their client. And is he not capable of saying to JW, well, that's not what you said two days ago, so I'm not going to go on TV and repeat it until you get your story straight?

 

[Sincerely]

Here are 1) a tentative timeline of events as reported and/or verified and 2) relevant questions, thus far:

• Sunday, January 7 at 3:25 p.m. on CBS: the Kansas City Chiefs against the Los Angeles Chargers Game Time.
• JW is alone at home.
  Why do the 3 deceased’s relatives and multiple MSM report that they went to JW’s place to watch this game?
• Jan 7th at 7 pm, Person #5 arrived at the residence of JW.
  Person #5 is referred to as “HE” in MSM reports, which infers Person #5 is a male.
  What was the purpose of Person #5’s visit?
  Did Person #5 bring "anything" to the house?
  Did Person #5 watched TV, ate, drank etc. with JW for 2 hours between 7 and 9 pm?
  The answers are to shed light about Person #5 and JW’s relationship since there seem some animosity between their respective criminal defense attorneys!
• Jan 7th after 9 pm, the 3 “friends” (38-year-old Ricky Johnson, 37-year-old David Harrington, and 36-year-old Clayton McGeeney) arrived at the residence of JW from watching, apparently from somewhere else, the Kansas City Chiefs’ game.
  What was the purpose of the 3 “friends” visit?
  Did the 3 “friends” bring “anything” to the house?
  Does JW partook or participated with “anything” done at his place?
  Did the 3 “friends” arrived in 2 cars, since 2 cars were reportedly parked in the street adjacent to the JW residence according the multiple MSM reports?
  Which 2 out of the 3 were the life long friends, potentially high school buddies, of 38-year-old JW?
  36-year-old Clayton McGeeney is reported by relatives to have earned 20 years of work experience fixing house floors. Hence, he started this line of work perhaps from the age of 16.
  How did Clayton McGeeney knew JW since their lines of work are vastly different?
  Was Clayton McGeeney’s car one of the 2 parked in the street adjacent to the JW residence?
• Jan 8th shortly after midnight, Person #5 left the JW residence; And the 4 men, JW and the 3 victims, were all alive and watching TV, as reported per Person #5’s attorney.
  Between 9 pm and midnight, were there only the 5 men or other persons joined in and out, potentially bringing “anything”?
  Did JW prepared drinks, foods, and/or “anything” else … for the “party”?
  Or, did JW’s guests bring what “oiled” the “party” since they used his home as lounge for a gathering they could not organize around their women and children, at their own home?
  These questions are relevant and very important, to help make a determination about who furnished what to whom.
• Jan 8th around 2 am, it is alleged, as reported by multiple MSM sources but vigorously disputed by some people, that either 1) JW ushered his 3 “friends” to the door and went to sleep, or 2) JW went to sleep and his 3 “friends” stayed or left by their own volution, or 3) both, JW ushered them out but they stayed anyhow.
  Everything else seem simple besides this sticky and confusing part!
• Jan 9th at 9:51 pm, 6 police cars with flashing lights and sirens wailing or yelping arrived, as a result of the “alarm call” given by AM, the fiance of Clayton McGeeney, who discovered one of the 3 victims after breaking in the JW residence.
  What alerted AM to this house?
  Does AM know JW?
  Was Clayton McGeeney’s car 1 of the 2 cars parked in the street adjacent to the JW residence?
  What were JW doing in the 44 hours from Jan 8th around 2 am to Jan 9th at 9:51 pm?
  Did people called him and knocked on his front door and break in his house when he was asleep?
  Since not many people sleep 44 hours straight, what were JW doing with his computers or phone or other things in his home when he was not asleep?

I do not check frequently 1) the cars parked in the streets adjacent to my residence or 2) my backyard during snowy winter.
I don’t know why people expect JW to identify snowed down parked cars or frequently inspect a snowed backyard.
But feel free to disagree, please.

I am enumerating this tentative timeline of events and verbalizing some relevant questions to help foresee what the Coroners and the KSPD officers are expected to share after they get their toxicology and postmortem reports.
I foresee that blames will be sprinkled; and KSPD will reveal the sources of “anything” that went on, which sources should get most blames.

Lastly, you do not call the attention of the police or demand a welfare check on your relatives when you knew that they could get in trouble as a result due to the potential "anything" they might use, or have, or do. I do not point fingers or assigned blames but I am just attempting to rationalize why would people bang on some strangers' door (you are related to my acquaintance doe not make you my acquaintance also) or break into their house rather than to call the police for a free, clean, and quick courtesy welfare check.
Again, feel free to disagree, please.

Great post. I’d like to also know if the dogs were there or not? Where did the dogs go potty? I would think the back yard?

 

[branmuffin]

The lawyer isn't going to put out anything other than what he's received from his client. JW is the one changing the narrative.

I have a feeling that JW might be classified as a people pleaser. Someone who strives to be accommodating and liked and considered to be truthful and honest. Which is quite possibly why it seems like the narrative is changing. It happens quite a lot when individuals are being interrogated by LE. They succumb to the constant questioning and provide answers that they feel will be the 'right' answer. Which is why so many people give false confessions or are receptive to scenarios put forth by LE which end up with them being charged with a crime they didn't commit. It mostly happens to young men but someone who is usually a rule follower can also be swayed into giving conflicting accounts.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I have a feeling that JW might be classified as a people pleaser. Someone who strives to be accommodating and liked and considered to be truthful and honest. Which is quite possibly why it seems like the narrative is changing. It happens quite a lot when individuals are being interrogated by LE. They succumb to the constant questioning and provide answers that they feel will be the 'right' answer. Which is why so many people give false confessions or are receptive to scenarios put forth by LE which end up with them being charged with a crime they didn't commit. It mostly happens to young men but someone who is usually a rule follower can also be swayed into giving conflicting accounts.

But lawyers are supposed to put a stop to these kinds of things.

That's why I'm so baffled that his lawyer keeps putting out conflicting statements.

 

[MyBelle]

But lawyers are supposed to put a stop to these kinds of things.

That's why I'm so baffled that his lawyer keeps putting out conflicting statements.

How can lawyers put a "stop" to these kinds of accusations when the accusers also enjoy the right to freedom of speech?
JMO

 

[neesaki]

DBM Wrong thread

 

[neesaki]

Yes, @IzzyBlanche , I agree. What is with these attorneys.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Is it possible it's carbon monoxide poisoning or something like that, they started feeling I'll so went outside? JW was elsewhere and not affected... ? Lots of alcohol, drugs could add to it.