MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #10

[Alison]

But then who gets the blame when the person running away from the cop feels desperate enough to go take a hostage or something? "The cop should have stopped him" Lose/lose.

yeah it is not an easy situation for any officer.

 

[gngr~snap]

If I understand your question correctly, I don't think so.

The diagram is the generic anatomical drawing used in medicine, based on what parts of a body are ventral (front) and dorsal (back).

Those aspects retain their names, whichever direction they are facing when a body part is flexed or extended, pronated, etc...

ETA - what will matter will be what's written in the textual analysis of the tissues/histological data. That's where they detail entry vs exit and trajectory.

I found the lack of this information by Baden to be somewhat suspicious, although, a previous autopsy would have made those things less easy to analyze, especially if it's true that the body was also already embalmed.

Personally, I don't find much value in Baden's autopsy or analysis, much less commentary for many reasons, but that's jmo.

I'm nit picking I know, but the size of the body showing the entry wounds is also much leaner than MB. Imo MB chest and upper arm are in contact much of the time.
His size alone makes being shot from behind almost impossible at least in the upper arm anyway.
6 ft 4 and 280# is a BMI of about 33.4%..
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[LambChop]

Would it be possible that OW had his mike open during the attack and there is a record of it? I don't know what the new equipment LE has is capable of doing.

 

[Phoebeb]

For the shot to come at MB as he was running away, it would mean DW missed the center by (mis-)aiming toward the right. The other shots that we know came from the front from the autopsy were "off" or mis-aimed to the left of his body. Right? The way the shots line up, I'm thinking that shot was in a series that hit his right arm from the front.

The drawing as prepared by Baden and signed by both he and Parcells is the attachment to my post. Parcells during the press conference pointed out on the drawing of the rear of the body and indicated with a red mark where he thought it could be possible one of those arm wounds came from behind. While running, your arms are not stationary by your side they are in motion, pumping back and forth. The wound he indicated MIGHT have come from behind but no one can say conclusively was a wound to the to the inner forearm. When running, and pumping arms back and forth, that section of the inner forearm can be exposed.

The photo at this link shows a screen shot of the press conference and you can see the red mark on the arm on the rear view of the body in the drawing. http://triblive.com/mobile/6636507-96/autopsy-brown-wecht

Hope that helps

 

[Lovejac]

Did you see how they all put their arms up?

It's laughable! IMO

Wilson may have missed center mass... But he was certainly aiming for it. He definitely wasn't aiming ABOVE the head of Brown like Rev. Al and everyone else on that stage is trying their hardest to convince everyone of.

It's disgraceful, dishonest and a blatant attempt to incite and manipulate.

All IMO


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Maybe they're doing the WAVE?

Not the right smiley but close :welcome4:

 

[Foxfire]

IIRC, Eddie Haskel was not in prep school.

.and Eddie Haskell; Ken Osmond, has a twin brother; Dayton Osmond...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Osmond

 

[tlcya]

For the shot to come at MB as he was running away, it would mean DW missed the center by (mis-)aiming toward the right. The other shots that we know came from the front from the autopsy were "off" or mis-aimed to the left of his body. Right? The way the shots line up, I'm thinking that shot was in a series that hit his right arm from the front.

Yes, IF all the wounds to the arm came from a distance and not near the car it would stand to reason that the wounds to the arm are all following a track or sight line as the officer attempted to adjust toward center

I think the hand wound and chest wound are from same bullet and the arm wounds I believe came for the front as MB was ambulating toward OW. that is my current theory but yours works too.

 

[Muffet]

I'm nit picking I know, but the size of the body showing the entry wounds is also much leaner than MB. Imo MB chest and upper arm are in contact much of the time.
His size alone makes being shot from behind almost impossible at least in the upper arm anyway.
6 ft 4 and 280# is a BMI of about 33.4%..
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I don't think you're nitpicking at all! I totally agree, and that's why I felt it was suspicious that that was the only thing that they publicized.

Partial truths can be more useful than lies to anyone inclined to mislead.

 

[Lovejac]

The mark is only added to the blown up version isn't it?

Yep. For 'Professor' Parcells press conference

 

[Elley Mae]

I'm nit picking I know, but the size of the body showing the entry wounds is also much leaner than MB. Imo MB chest and upper arm are in contact much of the time.
His size alone makes being shot from behind almost impossible at least in the upper arm anyway.
6 ft 4 and 280# is a BMI of about 33.4%..
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This is a very, very good point.

 

[Alison]

I believe MB was in motion when shot, or else it wouldn't have taken so many shots to neutralize the threat. Or OW was a bad shot. IMO.

 

[bettybaby00]

For the shot to come at MB as he was running away, it would mean DW missed the center by (mis-)aiming toward the right. The other shots that we know came from the front from the autopsy were "off" or mis-aimed to the left of his body. Right? The way the shots line up, I'm thinking that shot was in a series that hit his right arm from the front.

Exactly, the shots are in a nearly straight "line". If his arm was hit from behind, and he spun around, OW would have likely missed the next shots or, the "line" would have altered. KWIM?

 

[Lovejac]

Official diagram, released

Then @ the press conference, according to the highly esteemed "professor"

Gotta give 'em points for being creative.

He was trying to throw Crump a bone.

Since all those "shots in the back" didn't exist.

 

[gngr~snap]

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[bettybaby00]

Would it be possible that OW had his mike open during the attack and there is a record of it? I don't know what the new equipment LE has is capable of doing.

What mike??? Do you mean his radio?

I guess it's possible, and maybe that's how the first officer on the scene got there so quickly.

 

[jmcgladr]

Yes you can disagree. Posters cannot, however, state things as facts and then argue that those facts are wrong when links have been provided to prove otherwise. When rumors are accepted as fact it hurts the integrity of this website. We are all after the truth and speculation is encouraged but not rumors that have no basis in fact.

It is good to read the rules. Although WS's support law enforcement which is clearly defined in our rules we try to remain objective in all matters of crimes.

When did I state rumours that had no basis in fact?


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[Phoebeb]

And why is that autopsy signed off on 8/19/2014? (unless my eyes are tricking me) I'm not saying anything about the date is underhanded, but didn't they do the autopsy Sunday the 17th?

Also, since when does Dr. B need an assistant? I've never heard of him doing any autopsy with an assistant that ever heard from, esp one with such a voice to the media.

So why is Parcells signature on there if he did not actually perform the autopsy and why is his signature above Dr. Baden's? Would that be normal?

 

[Linda7NJ]

I believe MB was in motion when shot, or else it wouldn't have taken so many shots to neutralize the threat. Or OW was a bad shot. IMO.

Or his vision was affected by the punch to the eye..


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