MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

[QueenD]

If only all these people could put their energy to something good, instead of destroying their own community. Geez really!


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[popsicle]

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Ryan J. Reilly ‏@ryanjreilly 13m
More from the Darren Wilson protest #Ferguson
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I think they are outside the police station. I see LE officers standing there also. idk

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[popsicle]

WTH burning up his tires or motor? Someone is going to be killed in an accident.

 

[jamiect]

Are they street racing now?. SMH

 

[Wysteria]

The officer's medical report will tell us a lot. Did MB break his jaw? His eye socket? Was there a struggle in the car over the gun resulting in a shot being fired? Those are all verifiable things that don't depend on witness accounts.

For me, it does not matter regarding the extent of the LEO's injury. I truly believe he was indeed injured by MB. It does not matter if his injures turn out to be slight bruising.

If/when it is indeed determined that MB deliberately harmed the LEO; I fear there are some people in the community and those coming into the community including Sharpton, et. al; will refuse to accept it as fact and do their very best to cause mayhem that will result in further destruction of the town.

Watch...the protesters, Sharpton and others not to be mentioned will fight tooth and nail to dispute a fact. I know at this point this has already been done and is still being done at this very moment. What was said in the initial aftermath by some turned about to be untrue. Deliberate lies, I think.

What I cannot understand is this: why my opinions stated above are not being discussed at length in MSM? I could be mistaken, but according to my research; what I have expressed above is not being discussed. It's like some/most seem to be walking on eggshells. To me, that is wrong. Taking personal responsibility is paramount in our society and certain things are being repressed because of fear of rioting and looting etc...

This post is not intended to argue with you, I respect your post and your questions. It's just that I saw an opportunity to express my opinion when I came upon you post. Best regards to you DebinGA :rose: :daisy:

 

[tlcya]

I still can't get over the absolute irony of the comments some of the protesters made on Friday night, complaining about why didn't LE do their jobs and stop the looters when, for the past week, large numbers of the protesters were complaining and yelling and outraged about LE's attempts to restore law and order - and these were the peaceful protesters claiming that LE had overstepped their bounds!

There were many protesters, as well as MSM bobble heads, who insisted that if LE would stand down, that there would be no violence - they blamed the violence on LE's presence.

On the one hand: "How dare they come into our neighborhood with their SWAT teams and tear gas and orders to disperse!!!"

Then, when they were ordered on Friday, August 15th to stand down by Captain Johnson, and the neighborhood businesses were looted and vandalized: "Why didn't they protect & serve???"

The irony is indeed rich.

:goodpost:

Thank you. The above bothers me quiet a bit. People asked for an investigation of this LEO/citizen shooting incident. I believe we all as citizens have every right to a transparent investigation into this killing.

An investigation is started. People are still protesting. No peace no justice - no justice no peace. Then the mob actions and lootings began along with the influx of the agenda driven "dignitaries" who arrive to get their face time, along with the tv talking heads and where does it end?

No one wants to wait for an investigation or the justice system to act? When and where does it end? Violence begets violence begets violence

 

[1&2&3]

Oh SwampMama, you are so correct with the above ^^^^post! Whenever the big Whigs (Sharpton, Jackson and their group) get involved, we, the USA, can be assured of a prolonged issue that will grow to monumental proportions. Just their presence incites uproar to draw attention.

I will be the first to say that LE are trigger happy in too many cases today. From what is known on this case, Officer Wilson is not one of those. IMO

 

[TaylurRose02]

The Chief of Police confirmed the officer went to the hospital and the gun discharged in the cruiser. If he lied, I think we'd know it by now. Either there was a shell-casing in the cruiser or not. Kinda hard to lie about it. Michael Brown was an adult and strong-arm robbery is a violent crime, not some petty theft that is casually disregarded as a "mistake."

JMO

Whoops. For some reason by discharged I thought we were talking about it being ejected from the vehicle/ around in the vehicle. Not shot. My mistake. Yes I know the gun went off in the vehicle. We still don't know why it went off in the vehicle though. Witnesses without a badge said the officer shot from inside the vehicle first. The officer said the gun went off inside the car because of an altercation over the weapon. Therefore, we are left with only the word of people who all have the potential to be biased. I know Wilson is an officer, but that doesn't make him any less vulnerable to the consequences of what really happened. I'm not saying he's a killer or a bad cop, I'm just saying I don't want to invest too much into either parties statements.
I wasn't referring to the robbery, which is why I said prior. As in prior to the event, including the robbery. The more I think about it the more I do feel the robbery is connected. I was referring past mistakes such as drugs and stealing in my post. Not mistakes involved in the altercation.

 

[Kimster]

You guys need to explain your one liners a bit. Some of them sound like complaints about other posters. If you are talking about the rioting, explain it's the rioting. Having posts that say "Now I'm angry", or other one-liners cause miscommunication.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Scanner feed on date that Mike Brown was shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEHi2w436U4

Ok, what did I just listen to? Cause I apparently missed it:/


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[Zuri]

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Lilly A. Fowler ‏@LillyAFowler 7m
Al Sharpton announces class action lawsuit for victims of tear gas and other injuries during demonstrations #Ferguson

#Payday imo
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He is fanning the flames big time. I wish Al Sharpton would just stop. This is just ridiculous. IMO

 

[nightwatch]

David Carson ‏@PDPJ 2m
#Ferguson big crowd on W Florissant
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Can the DOJ override the governor and bring in the national guard?

ciao

 

[Ladylub]

True, but Wilson hadn't seen it yet.

Right, but after he and MB got into a scuffle ( which the witnesses and LE do not dispute) he knew that MB was a threat.

 

[bettybaby00]

I agree. Just think of the living hell that Officer Wilson (and his family!) is being put through. These (mostly white) officers put their lives on the line every day to protect that town and I haven't seen any expressions of gratitude from Ferguson's black community for the work that they do. If the situation was bad for these officers before it is impossible now they are under the direction of Capt. Johnson who threw Officer Wilson under the bus with his apology to the Brown family today.

BBM

Wait, what? I'm trying to catch up, what did he say? TIA

 

[popsicle]

I don't know Nightwatch but there are so many people out tonight and according to msm so many people have made the trek to Ferguson, MO.

 

[Gardenlady]

I still can't get over the absolute irony of the comments some of the protesters made on Friday night, complaining about why didn't LE do their jobs and stop the looters when, for the past week, large numbers of the protesters were complaining and yelling and outraged about LE's attempts to restore law and order - and these were the peaceful protesters claiming that LE had overstepped their bounds!

There were many protesters, as well as MSM bobble heads, who insisted that if LE would stand down, that there would be no violence - they blamed the violence on LE's presence.

On the one hand: "How dare they come into our neighborhood with their SWAT teams and tear gas and orders to disperse!!!"

Then, when they were ordered on Friday, August 15th to stand down by Captain Johnson, and the neighborhood businesses were looted and vandalized: "Why didn't they protect & serve???"

The irony is indeed rich.

I don't think this is fair. You are conflating the protestors - who have a perfect right to be present, voice their anger, and demand change (because the issue the are protesting is larger than just MB and this investigation; they are protesting too the larger issue of bias on the part of LE when dealing with black males). The protestors have every right to expect and demand that LE do their jobs of enforcing the law (protecting the law abiding and protection from looting) while at the same time NOT overstepping by rolling out military gear and snipers during peaceful daytime protests. Citizens do not give up their rights to have the police do their actual jobs simply because they protest.




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[Gardenlady]

I agree. Just think of the living hell that Officer Wilson (and his family!) is being put through. These (mostly white) officers put their lives on the line every day to protect that town and I haven't seen any expressions of gratitude from Ferguson's black community for the work that they do. If the situation was bad for these officers before it is impossible now they are under the direction of Capt. Johnson who threw Officer Wilson under the bus with his apology to the Brown family today.

I hope he WAS trying to throw that incompetent department under the bus. Because you can be darn sure that Johnson being put in charge by the higher ups is setting HIM to be the fall guy. He needs to protect himself from whatever eventual fallout comes his way.


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[LietKynes]

I agree. Just think of the living hell that Officer Wilson (and his family!) is being put through. These (mostly white) officers put their lives on the line every day to protect that town and I haven't seen any expressions of gratitude from Ferguson's black community for the work that they do. If the situation was bad for these officers before it is impossible now they are under the direction of Capt. Johnson who threw Officer Wilson under the bus with his apology to the Brown family today.

SABBM

Holy S. There hasn't been a full investigation ; this Cpt. Johnson's actions are disgraceful ; imo.
Sometimes I think the greatest divisions of ethnicity and race are exacerbated by the media itself ; as well as those in authority who should know better !
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Jumping back on here to catch up on some posts now that WS has stopped with the Java pop-ups (hopefully).

 

[Phoebeb]

I have watched several interviews with Dorian Johnson (Mike Brown's friend) on his story of the events leading up to the shooting. Not sure if this has been discussed, sorry if it has.

DJ says the officer (Darren Wilson) drove up beside the two who were walking in the street and told them to "get the eff on the sidewalk". DJ said he explained they were nearly to their destination, the officer kept driving. Dorian said the officer then backed up to the two of them one or 2 seconds later (they were still on the street) and couldn't exit his police car because the boys were positioned so close to the door ("it ricocheted off us" when he tried to open the car door), DJ speculated maybe that made the officer upset. DJ says Officer Wilson then grabbed MB's neck with his left hand, through the open window, while still seated in the car and tried to choke MB while MB tried to back away but couldn't.

DJ said that's when MB was first shot. The officer pointed the gun at them with his right hand while still holding and pulling/ tugging Mike Brown through the window. (Other witnesses describe a scuffle- officer in car, MB outside driver window as well but couldn't see what was happening inside the car). The gun went off, the boys were stunned, MB had blood on his arm and they took off running. The rest is on video, here's one link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlMjhoYPmZ8

Any thoughts on this part of the story? It's hard for me to imagine MB not being able to break a one-armed grip while standing, but that's jmo.

 

[Gardenlady]

Really? "A disgrace" for saying he's sorry their son was killed?


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