MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #7

[liloleme]

at first I thought this was about the other shooting? Crazy guy with knife.

Anyway, clutching his stomach...maybe he was hugging his arm to his chest?

Why wasn't he on the ground? Why wasn't he yelling? Bullet wounds don't support the clutching of the arm.. can't clutch the arm and have 4 shots there.

 

[Isabelle]

Could MB have been cradling his arm with the gunshot wounds into his stomach? Because I could see that happening once hit in the arm pulling that arm in toward the stomach area with the uninjured one. Just specualtion

Agree. In medical terms we would call that "guarding".

 

[Phoebeb]

Absolutely makes sense. Was this the new witness reported on Anderson or Megyn? I missed both and can't find links yet.

Now I'm wondering if more than one shot to the arm could have happened at the car and MB was clutching his right arm while he was running away like you said. Dorian said he saw blood on his arm while still at the car, before they ran. The mindset could have been, I'm in big trouble now, I'm making a run for it, then thought about how much trouble he was in and ran back toward the officer knowing he was bigger and had a chance to overcome DW before back up came. Dorian says MB told him to keep running. Just thinking out loud, trying to get a logical scenario in my head.

No, but if he was clutching his shot arm with his good arm and kind of doubling over (maybe trying to put pressure on it?) that might look like he was holding his stomach, and might also explain why his head would be tilted downward. JMO

 

[Phoebeb]

And Dorian Johnson admitted they stole the cigarellos...

The owner through his lawyer said he never called it in, a customer did. But he didn't deny that it was a robbery.
So, no, I haven't heard any serious claims that it wasn't a robbery.

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

Not a good sign that the crowd is getting bigger

 

[tlcya]

Why wasn't he on the ground? Why wasn't he yelling? Bullet wounds don't support the clutching of the arm.. can't clutch the arm and have 4 shots there.

The autopsy of Dr. Baden, the independent expert hired by the family, indicated there were not four shots there. There were two bullets and several superficial graze type injuries. None of the arm injuries were fatal wounds and some witnesses have reported he was shouting.

 

[mdana]

Fox News has chosen the wrong protest guy to interview. He is clueless.

I think for Fox's purposes they picked exactly the right guy. MOO

 

[gngr~snap]

If he had his arm at his stomach Wilson could have thought he was drawing a weapon from the waist of his pants as well?
Mayne not he did reach for the officer's gun...

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[Linda7NJ]

I think for Fox's purposes they picked exactly the right guy. MOO

IMO they picked the average protestor...
The woman that followed...same thing.

All logic & reason has left the area.
There is no reasoning....




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[liloleme]

In a recent case with Jennifer Huston, the young mother in Oregon who went missing all of the sudden, I came up with all kinds of cray-cray to explain her disappearance. I didn't want to believe what really was the most obvious explanation: she was dead, likely by her own choice. People kept saying things like, "normally, the simplest explanation is the one that turns out to be true" (or something to that effect). And, by and large, that's a true statement.

In this case, we have far more verifiable knowns than nearly any other case we discuss here, yet some are still bent on doing all sorts of pseudo-intellectual mental gymnastics to try to arrive at a conclusion that only exists in a place other than reality.

I'm going to urge us all to think about this: "normally, the simplest explanation is the one that turns out to be true."

I think we'll see that very thing in this case. And I hope sooner rather than later.

 

[Linda7NJ]

If he had his arm at his stomach Wilson could have thought he was drawing a weapon from the waist of his pants as well?
Mayne not he did reach for the officer's gun...

All posts are MOO

IMO legally it shouldn't matter. Officer Wilson was in fear for his life, reasonably so, after being attacked & punched in his face, in his vehicle and had to struggle to maintain control of his weapon. =justifiable homicide under the law.

IMO


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[New1]

No, I heard the opposite. That it was exactly as the video shows- a strong arm robbery. The store owner's attorney was interviewed and recounted the robbery. And, common sense tells me that little man isn't going to confront MB- a guy 2-3 times his size if it wasn't a robbery.

Megyn Kelly said tonight on her show that MB'd friend DJ has admitted that MB robbed the store. Yes, this was a robbery.

 

[katydid23]

anyone watching a good live feed right now?

 

[liloleme]

The autopsy of Dr. Baden, the independent expert hired by the family, indicated there were not four shots there. There were two bullets and several superficial graze type injuries. None of the arm injuries were fatal wounds and some witnesses have reported he was shouting.

I've never heard them call any wound on MB's body as "superficial graze type injuries". Do you have a link for that?

I've only heard that he was shouting, "don't shoot". I've never heard he was shouting, as if to indicate pain.

Again, if he's clutching his arm against his stomach, there's no way he could have been shot in the arm. And, there's no way he could have had his arms extended, surrendering. So, someone (or everyone) is lying.

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

Police cars are starting to line the streets....

 

[tlcya]

In a recent case with Jennifer Huston, the young mother in Oregon who went missing all of the sudden, I came up with all kinds of cray-cray to explain her disappearance. I didn't want to believe what really was the most obvious explanation: she was dead, likely by her own choice. People kept saying things like, "normally, the simplest explanation is the one that turns out to be true" (or something to that effect). And, by and large, that's a true statement.

In this case, we have far more verifiable knowns than nearly any other case we discuss here, yet some are still bent on doing all sorts of pseudo-intellectual mental gymnastics to try to arrive at a conclusion that only exists in a place other than reality.

I'm going to urge us all to think about this: "normally, the simplest explanation is the one that turns out to be true."

I think we'll see that very thing in this case. And I hope sooner rather than later.

I agree. It seems though, that we all have some very disparate ideas of what is the simplest explanation of what is true and what constitutes pseudo-intellectual mental gymnastics to get to the POV each of us arrive at.

 

[branwynbreeze]

Re:This is coming from a Black Man! And I think it needs to be heard! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B092acMImJE I found it on a youtube video, taking the facebook page down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B092acMImJE

Thank you for posting this. This man is my Ferguson hero.

 

[mdana]

This new witness was in his apartment about a block away from the incident. When he heard a commotion he looked out his window and saw MB beside the cruiser engaged in some kind of struggle. He was very vague on what the struggle actually entailed. I think he was too far away to see in great detail.

He then saw the officer get out of his squad car and MB started running down the street (presumably away from the officer although it is not clear and Anderson being the lousy reporter he is did not request clarification). At that point the witness claims the officer fired two shots. He was not sure if these two shots struck MB.

At this point the witness decided to go outside to get a closer look. He lives in a two-floor walk-up apartment so I don't know how long it would take for him to get downstairs and outside.

When the witness got outside he saw MB in a crouched position with his arms clutching his his stomach (not in the air!) taking steps TOWARDS the officer. At that point the officer fired the fatal head wounds.

I don't think this new witness account is very significant because he did not see what happened in the crucial seconds before the head shot because, as mentioned, the witness was making his way from his second floor apartment to the outside. CNN's Jeffrey Toobin stupidly called this newest eyewitness account a "bombshell".

And clearly isn't true... MB wasn't shot in the stomach.

Where did he state MB was shot in the stomach? Am I missing something?

-JMO

 

[zoomom]

(Trying to make more than 5 characters?!!)

K_Z
K_Z Verified Anesthetist

To: AuburnTXTiger and K_Z!!!!

OMFG!!!

As an 'ME', I wouldn't give this man the time of day if I had 6 watches on both arms!!!

JMO, JMO, JMO.

This was posted last night by a RN Anesthetist:



Shawn Parcells, man of many invented credentials. A legend in his own mind.

Regarding Shawn Parcells, the "assistant" to the eminent Dr. Baden, who conducted the private family second autopsy of MB.

Decide for yourself how much weight to give to his "work" and his "professional opinions." I can't link ALL the professional blog comments about him lol! I might ask a mod if those sites can be linked, but there is enough on the authorized sites to keep one busy reading for a while. I understand why the Brown family attorneys contracted his business, but I'm baffled why anyone keeps giving this man a microphone to talk. (Oh. Wait. Maybe I'm not baffled at all, lol!) Incidentally, Shwan Parcells also has a ministry business, Shawn Parcells Ministries. (Can't link all the blogs there either.)

Apparently, there is a lot of $$ to be made in the "private autopsy" business. Average price is $3000 cash. Nice WSJ article on same. Lots of outsourcing from counties and municipalities to private companies-- largely unregulated. That seems to be a bit of a problem to me for criminal cases, or insurance cases, etc.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/m...6a176ea4d.html

http://cjonline.com/news/2011-10-25/...rovide-options

http://www.linkedin.com/company/parc...athology-group

http://www.macon.com/2011/09/30/1725...-to-death.html

Shawn L. Parcells, a forensic pathologist assistant and founder of Parcells Forensic Pathology Group, testified an underlying infection likely led to disseminated intravascular coagulation.
Read more here: http://www.macon.com/2011/09/30/1725...#storylink=cpy

http://www.newspressnow.com/life/art....html?mode=jqm

By transporting the body from the funeral home to the morgue in his black SUV and bringing along his own autopsy tools, he saves coroners both time and money.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...50622802772994

http://www.nationalautopsyservices.com/

Lol-- here is a RECENT article that refers to him as "Professor Shawn Parcells!" His sum total of "professor" experience was ONE DAY of shadowing. He has no degree higher than a bachelor's degree. (Lol-- not even university "faculty", contract or affiliate, would try that stunt! Talk about credential inflation, whoooweee!) But WAIT!! Now he's an "instrumental participant". Or is he a Professor? Which is it? Getting whiplash here from all the fake credentials flying around!

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local...aden/14233029/

Professor Shawn Parcells, an instrumental participant in the autopsy evaluation, said Brown could have survived five of the wounds, but one, which hit the apex of his head, went through is brain and was not survivable.
You know, sometimes one just has to stop looking. There is just too much out there about this man's invented credentials for me to give a single instant of respect to anything he has to say clinically. He needs desperately to STFU, IMO. Or the media need to get a REAL "google clue" about this man!