GUILTY MO - Ireland, 2 & Goodknight Ribando, 7 weeks, found dead outside home, Kearney, July 2018 *arrest*

  • #61
Well, crap. I was hoping this wouldn't be this type of incident. I really wanted this one to be an accident, not this.
 
  • #62
How does someone find a 7 wk old baby 'outside' the home? Who was in charge of the tiny infant. Unlike the 2 yr old, she couldn't have gone outside on her own.


<modsnip>.

No one "finds" a 7 week old anywhere but where they left her.

This so-called "mom" has posted numerous pics of herself on her SM. IMO, she's all about her Divaness.
 
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  • #63
Two babies (2 yr old and 2-3 mo o ld) found "outside" dead. Did the mom put them out there after her "rampage" against hubby and tell him to get them? Did she then not check to see if he did until the next day? Something is "not quite cricket" here, IMHO
 
  • #64
Maybe the dad took them and dropped them back off?
Do we know if the mom found them in the car or just outside?
 
  • #65
also expect that there has been a history of either reported or unreported domestic violence between these two parents. DV doesn't just suddenly occur to the level that the dad has described to LE (brick-throwing, ramming a vehicle into the partner's vehicle). IMO, it's been escalating for some time, along with alcohol/substance abuse, culminating in the tragic deaths of two vulnerable babie

I will carefully word this;I think it likely both mom and dad were partaking in an excessive amount of either alcohol/substance or perhaps both. Mom & Dad probably sobered up real quick when the police began questioning them.

I think your spot on about these two. It was only when LE showed up that the worrisome question occurred could this be the result of parental (mom/dad or both)abandonment & neglect?We do not have all the answers. But if the children's horrifying deaths were the result of neglect then the punishment will never provide justice for the loss of those two sweet babies.

My Opinion Only
 
  • #66
How does someone find a 7 wk old baby 'outside' the home? Who was in charge of the tiny infant. Unlike the 2 yr old, she couldn't have gone outside on her own.


Sounds like they were 'outside' in the car, and someone finally sobered up enough to go look for them...
I'm beginning to wonder if maybe they weren't really found outside the house at all. That info. didn't come from LE, so... Maybe someone didn't want too much investigation done inside their house. And if they were left in the car for several hours, I would think the neighbor would be able to tell that they were extremely hot. All IMO.
 
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  • #67
I will carefully word this;I think it likely both mom and dad were partaking in an excessive amount of either alcohol/substance or perhaps both. Mom & Dad probably sobered up real quick when the police began questioning them.

I think your spot on about these two. It was only when LE showed up that the worrisome question occurred could this be the result of parental (mom/dad or both)abandonment & neglect?We do not have all the answers. But if the children's horrifying deaths were the result of neglect then the punishment will never provide justice for the loss of those two sweet babies.

My Opinion Only

BBM

I agree with the bolded portions.

I'm not necessarily giving Dad a pass in this situation just yet, either (pertaining to his responsibility to protect his children).

Here's why: He alleges that the mother of his children assaulted him (by throwing a brick at his car and then ramming her Jeep into his vehicle). LE has stated that they believe his account, due to damage on both his vehicle & hers that corroborates his account. I don't doubt that what he eventually reported is true.

But here's the thing: why wasn't he concerned for the wellbeing of his babies after his baby-momma had been behaving so violently?

Did he not worry that his children may be in danger - especially if the mom was apparently violently enraged and possibly intoxicated?

The only answers I can come up with for why he didn't call the cops is:

1. He was in denial (as are so many DV victims). Males are also victims of DV, but can be reluctant to report due to pride/shame.

2. He may have been under the influence of alcohol/other substances.

3. He thought it would all blow over.

4. He was a co-participant in the alleged DV (although there may be no physical signs pointing to his involvement) and he was afraid of getting arrested.
 
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  • #68
According to the comments on her FB page, she was breastfeeding. I don't know what happened here, but it seems like it would be difficult to "forget" you left the kids "outside" for any length of time when your body is an alarm clock. It becomes painful for most mothers to skip a feeding. I also can't imagine any kind of substance abuse being involved when you know everything that goes into your body will also go into your child. Obviously, these things do happen, but it still just blows my mind when I hear about it. I still hope this turns out to be some kind of freak accident, but I just don't see how.
 
  • #69
I get the feeling Mother Dearest has a record. I wonder why the father didn't report the incident when it happened, the babies must have been in the vehicle at the time.
Seriously. WTH? She bashed his car like Tawanda on crack, at a mash up derby. Most likely with their daughters in the vehicle with her. So what does he do? he just heads home to his mothers. Like hohum. Leaving his daughters with the violent maniac.
That doesn't sit right with me.
What reason did he have to not call,and report that the psycho bashed his car up with hers? Surely he must have been worried sick about the safety,and well being of his precious daughters.
 
  • #70
I get the feeling Mother Dearest has a record. I wonder why the father didn't report the incident when it happened, the babies must have been in the vehicle at the time.
Seriously. WTH? She bashed his car like Tawanda on crack, at a mash up derby. Most likely with their daughters in the vehicle with her. So what does he do? he just heads home to his mothers. Like hohum. Leaving his daughters with the violent maniac.
That doesn't sit right with me.
What reason did he have to not call,and report that the psycho bashed his car up with hers? Surely he must have been worried sick about the safety,and well being of his precious daughters.
Maybe he did take them with him at the time and returned them later.
This story sounds like a woman scorned to me.
 
  • #71
Maybe he did take them with him at the time and returned them later.
This story sounds like a woman scorned to me.
I doubt it.
Why would he return them later,and take the chance of getting rammed by her car again?
 
  • #72
I get the feeling Mother Dearest has a record. I wonder why the father didn't report the incident when it happened, the babies must have been in the vehicle at the time.
Seriously. WTH? She bashed his car like Tawanda on crack, at a mash up derby. Most likely with their daughters in the vehicle with her. So what does he do? he just heads home to his mothers. Like hohum. Leaving his daughters with the violent maniac.
That doesn't sit right with me.
What reason did he have to not call,and report that the psycho bashed his car up with hers? Surely he must have been worried sick about the safety,and well being of his precious daughters.
Looks like she has a previous property damage charge and paternity for an older daughter. If you go to Mocasenet you can look her up. Shes never even had a speeding ticket before. Obviously some anger issues though.
 
  • #73
I have no idea how to link here but theres a story that I
found when I googled 2 missouri sisters dead and it says they were arguing over him cheating.
 
  • #74
  • #75
I get the feeling Mother Dearest has a record. I wonder why the father didn't report the incident when it happened, the babies must have been in the vehicle at the time.
Seriously. WTH? She bashed his car like Tawanda on crack, at a mash up derby. Most likely with their daughters in the vehicle with her. So what does he do? he just heads home to his mothers. Like hohum. Leaving his daughters with the violent maniac.
That doesn't sit right with me.
What reason did he have to not call,and report that the psycho bashed his car up with hers? Surely he must have been worried sick about the safety,and well being of his precious daughters.

He should have realized the frame of mind she was in when he took off, yet he may have tried to get away from her as fast as he could (reason for the argument) leaving her with his two babies. I wonder if he even thought about his girls.

This article reads she had an "Argument with her husband about alleged infidelity." And then further down it reads, "He and his wife argued late Tuesday about him cheating on her, according to court records, which identify the husband only as "J.A.R."

Judging on what led to the brick throwing and JBR ramming her vehicle into his truck, she may have just found out something about her husband that set off her raging, uncontrollable anger.
(Not an excuse to cause harm and no one knows what happened to their two children)

Mom of 2 Clay County girls who died charged with assaulting husband
 
  • #76
Possessiveness
Desire to Control/Dominate
Jealousy
Rage
Physical Violence

These traits are not limited to males. Females can & often do exhibit these traits and act out on them.

Males can be and are the victims of domestic violence.
 
  • #77
It doesn't really surprise me that the father didn't think the girls would be in danger after the domestic violence incident. It's not uncommon at all that there is a domestic violence scenario going on in a home and the adult or adults responsible for it don't ever harm the children in the home. Just because there is a domestic violence situation going on between a couple, it doesn't really mean that it may escalate to the children in the household (just like all of those cases where the parents or one parent abuses and is very violent towards the children but never does anything remotely violent to the other adult in the house). She had a older daughter (from the pictures, she might be around 8-10 years old), I wonder if that child was in the house and if the mother has the custody for her. I don't think the mother did anything intentionally to hurt the girls but something went down. I'm guessing the kids were left in the car overnight. They probably were asleep when she got home and the fact that she was so distraught over the whole fight with her husband might have contributed for her to just go home and forget the children her with her in the car. I also think she might have some addiction problem (from older social medial posts, looks like some heavy drinking might have been involved, I don't know about drugs though). It's just very sad that those two poor girls had to go like this.
 
  • #78
Could it be secondary drowning? I’m not sure if that is the name?
A wild animal???? But then I think they wouldn’t say foul play isn’t suspected as they wouldn’t know how they got harmed.
Maybe they were poisoned? Ate berries/mushrooms or something outside?
Just my own random thoughts.
HOW do two very young girls get to play without supervision outside? This is hinky. Here we go again...
 
  • #79
According to the comments on her FB page, she was breastfeeding. I don't know what happened here, but it seems like it would be difficult to "forget" you left the kids "outside" for any length of time when your body is an alarm clock. It becomes painful for most mothers to skip a feeding. I also can't imagine any kind of substance abuse being involved when you know everything that goes into your body will also go into your child. Obviously, these things do happen, but it still just blows my mind when I hear about it. I still hope this turns out to be some kind of freak accident, but I just don't see how.
Exactly! I’d wake up on the dot every 2 hours to pump/nurse because it hurt so bad if I let it go longer. And seems a ton of baby’s around her daughters age, are tending to be cluster feeders and if that was the case she could have been nursing every 45min. She wouldn’t go very long between leaving the children and then having her body throw a hissy fit to be emptied. I just don’t believe her story!
 
  • #80
According to this article Two young girls found dead outside house in rural Missouri, officials say the babies were found by the mother just after noon on Wednesday, July 4.

The alleged DV incident reportedly occurred about 11:00 p.m. the night before (July 3).

If the babies were in the mother's Jeep at 11:00 p.m. on July 3, and remained there until she found them just after noon the following day - that's a helluva long time to 'forget' where your babies are if one is in a sober state of mind.

I'm wondering if the mother was black-out intoxicated on the night of July 3, went into the house, passed out, 'came to' around noon on July 4, went looking for her babies and found them deceased in her Jeep. If so, not only will she be facing the current DV charges, but also potential additional charges related to the deaths of her children.


I feel like your above scenario may be spot on. So tragic. Beautiful innocent babies.
 

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