MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #7

[IrishMist]

I don't know, but in her shoes - and if I was innocent - I would get one pronto.

That's funny, the thought just crossed my mind. "Maybe she needs one!"

Seems strange to me that the police says she has one, yet the family is saying she doesn't. Pretty easy thing to prove, isn't it? :waitasec:

 

[christee]

Does anyone know what kind of car the parents drive?
TIA

 

[BeanE]

Point me my dears...... to the best link! Thanks.

http://www.websleuths.com

:floorlaugh:

:grouphug:

 

[wfgodot]

What's worrisome to me is that, whether on purpose or not, LE, in the past day-plus, has seemed to change the game - the perceived emphasis has switched from finding baby Lisa to blaming her mom for the disappearance.

 

[Shelby1]

In this Fox report it says that Debbie admitted to AP she failed the polygraph test.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/07/missing-missouri-infants-mother-says-police-accused-her/

I'm not familiar with the gaps you speak of.

http://voices.kansascity.com/entries/did-kc-police-suspect-baby-lisa-irwins-parents-start/

“From the start when they’ve questioned me, once I couldn’t fill in gaps, it turned into ‘You did it, you did it.’ They took a picture down from the table and said, ‘Look at your baby! And do what’s right for her!’ I kept saying I don’t know … I just sat there. I didn’t even ask to leave. I just let them keep asking questions.”

Read more: http://voices.kansascity.com/entrie...baby-lisa-irwins-parents-start/#ixzz1a9Q9cRQd

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http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/07/police-captain-baby-lisa-irwin’s-parents-still-not-cooperating/

Sources are saying that the mother of missing Missouri baby Lisa Irwin took a lie detector test and “failed miserably.”


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This stuff is all on my timeline, folks.

 

[BeanE]

http://www.kmbc.com/r-slideshow/29423242/detail.html

Newly released pictures of baby Lisa and her family.

cha-ching! $$$$ KMBC is an ABC affiliate

:banghead:

 

[Nana46]

Maybe the black plastic was placed there to keep prying eyes (media) from looking into the home...?

That is what I am thinking also. Makes sense to me anyway.

 

[wfgodot]

Does anyone know what kind of car the parents drive?
TIA

I don't recall ever having seen that info.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

I agree.

It doesn't explain the crib mattress height, though, IMO - especially for a baby of Lisa's height.

My granddaughter is 11 months old, and not nearly as tall as Lisa, and my granddaughter's crib mattress is already on the lowest rung.

I agree. My daughter is 18 months old, but she is the size of a much younger child. She's only in 12 month clothes. (we're all tiny, but she was born early too on top of it.) Even she has her crib on the lowest setting.

I don't know that it means anything though because we don't know how it got to its current position. We don't know if someone raised it up to look around under it when they were searching, or what. I do know mom said she sleeps with her Gloworm at night and I don't see a Gloworm, so I assume a lot of things in the room aren't as they were before. MOO.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

What I'm curious about is why the FBI is there? There must be a reason that I'm missing or have missed. I know that they don't come in on every kidnapping. That makes me believe that there MUST be something more (evidence) that is the reason they are there.

link ==> http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/vc_majorthefts/cac/non-family-abductions

In 1932, Congress gave the FBI jurisdiction under the “Lindbergh Law” to immediately investigate any reported mysterious disappearance or kidnapping involving a child of “tender age”—usually 12 or younger. And just to be clear, before we get involved there does NOT have to be a ransom demand and the child does NOT have to cross state lines or be missing for 24 hours.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Well, I hope that any money they're making off of licensing pictures of their daughter is used in the search for her. -_-

 

[IrishMist]

I agree, and I never said it was suspicious. I just said that I thought that the police must know more than they are reporting and that it made me think that because the FBI was there so quickly.

Oh geez! I guess I mis-read your posts. I'm sorry, Norest. My only defense is that I'm getting tired. I hope I didn't come across as snarky.

 

[Cappuccino]

What's worrisome to me is that, whether on purpose or not, LE, in the past day-plus, has seemed to changed the game - the perceived emphasis has switched from finding baby Lisa to blaming her mom for the disappearance.

Yes, that's what I find disturbing too. Whatever happened, the child is clearly missing - changing that should be the top priority, not railroading the mother, (even if she does turn out to be guilty).

 

[tiredblondy]

It was much earlier today...possibly before noon when a local reporter said that the family would not even look at them or talk to them. Then, it was reported (sorry not sure which thread) that family had signed with one national news agency. Then, the rest of the day it was all over Fox News and Judge Jeanine Pierro (who is a fox news consultant) was reporting from in front of the house.

That's about the best I can do for you...

RE about the MEDIA DEAL...didn't happen till last night...here it is

In this video the family states that they will not talk to local news anymore because they've made a MEDIA DEAL with only one network.

This was last night after the info came out they were not cooperating anymore. Pretty fast in my book, I'd be screaming to anyone who wanted to talk to me...(can I guess it's Fox)

http://www.fox4kc.com/videobeta/1276...er-Cooperating

 

[MD MOMMY]

Thanks for clarifying. It was stated in an earlier post that "sources close to LE" told Fox News that Deborah had failed a polygraph "miserably." I'm relieved to hear that the local PD isn't that unethical.

In a lot of cases I have followed, it's a tactical move by LE to place increased pressure on suspects. I don't think it has anything to do with ethics but that is JMO. Just as we've seen here, I have heard a lot of persons of interest come forward and admit to it. They admit to it b/c of the controversy regarding polygraphs. If they were 100% full-proof and admissable I doubt so many would be admitting they failed. JMO, of course.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Shelbyyyyyy I'm so sorry I drank all the wine....

I'm about to seriously go get a drink...and i DON'T EVEN DRINK!!!!kay:

 

[norest4thewicked]

What's worrisome to me is that, whether on purpose or not, LE, in the past day-plus, has seemed to change the game - the perceived emphasis has switched from finding baby Lisa to blaming her mom for the disappearance.

And doesn't it make sense that this would be because they have some evidence that strongly points to mom?

 

[lisser]

What's worrisome to me is that, whether on purpose or not, LE, in the past day-plus, has seemed to change the game - the perceived emphasis has switched from finding baby Lisa to blaming her mom for the disappearance.

And if it was my child, and I knew I didn't have anything to do with it, and I was being grilled and accused from the very people who I'm trusting to find my child, I think I'd shut down "talks" with them too.

 

[epiphany]

Not if the lawyer says, That's it we're outta here.My client will NOT be answering anymore questions.

In the beginning of the video, the reporter states that Mom did tell him if LE calls them at this moment, they'll come in. :shutup:

 

[SuziQ]

I don't blame them! Leaking a polygraph test to Fox News is an obvious attempt to start railroading someone.

Deborah needs to lawyer up, IMO.

IMO, I don't know who else could have leaked that info besides LE or the poly examiner. Who else would have had knowledge of that poly and her reaction?