MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #8

[SarahW]

Also I had cats that liked napping amongst the babybumpers, and babygates are not good cat-blockers.

 

[wfgodot]

Kansas City police confirm they have talked with Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley by phone today.
by Karen Yancey 1:21 PM


Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1aDSWbY9n

Good catch tlcox.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

just read a news headline that a teen was being questioned and dna samples were taken and that this teen was at the house that day and knew the access code to the garage.. but no one is discussing it here?

http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-teen-questioned-police-look-california-123229533.html

Where have you been, annalyzer? :seeya: We have discussed this on previous pages here and on the previous thread.

There should be links in shelby1's timelines or on a sticky. HTH.

wm

 

[In da Middle]

They have a detached garage?? So what difference does it make whether anyone had a code to it??

I looked the address up on Zillow - detached garage.

This house has both. It also has a two-car garage on basement level around back. The basement is approx 1/2 garage and 1/2 basement. The detached garage is an add-on to the property and former owner had a machine shop type setting in it.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

just read a news headline that a teen was being questioned and dna samples were taken and that this teen was at the house that day and knew the access code to the garage.. but no one is discussing it here?

http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-teen-questioned-police-look-california-123229533.html

It was discussed several times earlier this morning (in the previous thread).

Thank you for bringing it over to this thread though! I think the teen/DNA/lead in California information is pretty big (IMO).

 

[Dr.Fessel]

just read a news headline that a teen was being questioned and dna samples were taken and that this teen was at the house that day and knew the access code to the garage.. but no one is discussing it here?

http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-teen-questioned-police-look-california-123229533.html

We have been things are just moving fast here and lots of things to talk about.As it stands the teen is my best suspect so far.

 

[Wishbone]

If the parents were involved their thinking could also be that describing what she was wearing would show that a stranger took her if her clothes were found.

I'm not convinced one way or the other about the parents involvement.

JMHO

I'm not feeling any empathy or sympathy for the mother? wondering if I've become jaded from other cases or?

 

[SarahW]

If a crib mattress is too high for the length and agility level of the baby the danger is that the baby will go up, over and down. Death, brain damage etc. One reason some moms leave a mattress up is that it is really tough on the back to dig deep into the crib for a large infant. The stories about this type of injury are just awful, and for the most part, the parents are stunned when it happens.

Which is why regulations against cribs with lowering sides still strikes me as counter-productive. One hazard, exchanged for another.

I used to fling myself out of the crib as a toddler. Which might explain a few things.

 

[Blue Ridge]

Why would another parent be outside at 2:30 a.m., conveniently at the time of the trash fire on the same street, with the child dressed only in a diaper, in October?

I was asking in an earlier post if anyone knew what time this alleged sighting of a person toting a baby on the road was. If it was around 2:30. Was it indeed approx 2:30?? Because if so, that is just WAY too coincidental - the dumpster fire so close by, a possible call/text from an involved cell, AND a sighting of someone carrying a baby down the road in the neighborhood - ALL RIGHT AROUND 2:30 AM - and on the very night Lisa goes missing?!?!

 

[tlcya]

It was stated by someone who says they are Lisa's grandfather and it is on Facebook - Lisa Irwin Updates

Thanks but I stay away from the FB pages on these missing persons cases so if I read it, I read it in a MSM article.

 

[SuziQ]

Closing a baby's bedroom door? Why? How would you hear the child crying if the door was closed? That makes no sense to me at all.

I always left the bedroom doors for the same reason. Years ago a firefighter friend told me how unsafe that is if a fire erupted. Now have all our doors shut. Also, remember they had a baby monitor.

I see alot of perfectly normal info being disected and put out there as suspicious when it's not suspicious at all.

 

[raeann]

Also I had cats that liked napping amongst the babybumpers, and babygates are not good cat-blockers.

LOL....nope....in cat lingo they are called "climbing toys" or "fake trees"

 

[EllaMae]

Closing a baby's bedroom door? Why? How would you hear the child crying if the door was closed? That makes no sense to me at all.

I closed my baby's door once they were Lisa's age, after I had my 2nd and 3rd child because of the noise from my older children. I had a monitor, and I used that to listen to the baby. I would take the monitor with me from room to room if I needed to do something....like laundry, dishes, etc. A baby that age can cry pretty loudly anyway.

In a small house like that one, it was probably necessary due to the older boys and the racket they can make.

 

[marge_rita]

Sneak Peek: Judge Jeanine’s Exclusive Interview with Baby Lisa’s Parents
by Justice With Judge Jeanine Posted in: Baby Lisa, Lisa Irwin


http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/0...-exclusive-interview-with-baby-lisas-parents/

“Him[Jeremy] coming in the bedroom saying, ‘Why are the lights on?’ you know, ‘why is the screen popped out of the window?’ Lisa’s bedroom door was open, and we always close it when she goes to sleep at night. He ran back and checked … came in the room and said, ‘Where’s Lisa? Where’s she at?’ I ran back and said, ‘She’s in her crib?’ He said, ‘She’s not there.’ And we got up and started screaming for her and looking everywhere, and she wasn’t there.”

Is this what they said before? I thought he checked on he and saw she was gone before he went to wake Deborah.

The story has changed a smidgen.

imo

 

[elepher50]

We are going down the rabbit hole with the BD party folks. MSM is not following this alleged BD party. The FB is not of one of the players and thus not allowed under our Social Media policy..... Anyone can write anything on FB. FB is considered rumor here. So lets be careful about what is on that FB.

Was in MSM on Thursday ... will find the link and search till my eyes go numb as it may provide a timeline for when any independents outside of immediate family saw Lisa. Also may provide some insight into who was around Lisa just prior to her going missing.

 

[Cappuccino]

I think the sighting of the man with a baby on the road was around midnight.

 

[In da Middle]

In regards to the California siting, I don't rule anything out. There was a case in VA where a man murdered his girlfriend and abducted her daughter who was 12 or 13, IIRC.
They were spotted arguing in a store parking lot in SF, CA by an astute person who pays attn to the news and reported it. They were found camping under the golden gate bridge.

I can only hope that baby Lisa was taken by a couple who wanted children and that she is being cared for properly. I just cannot think about the alternative.

According to In da Middle, this family was visible in the neighborhood by spending alot of time in the yard with the children. Lisa is such a beautiful baby, maybe just maybe, someone saw her fell in love with her and kidnapped her and fled. I wonder if anyone in the neighborhood moved out of their house around the time Lisa disappeared.

For this theory to work, it would have to be someone who saw her outside and coveted her. Every time I see the pic of her playing with her little kitchen set in the yard, my heart just melts!

I realize this is not really a practical theory. I just want this little darling to be found safe and sound.
MOO

wm

But just some random psycho wandering around would not know which bedroom is which. Sleeping habits. Work habits. Lock-the-door habits. If they had dogs or not. Dad's 1st night on night shift. I could go on and on, but you get my drift. I am now 100% convinced that it was NOT random! Don't really have a solid opinion who actually did it though.

Oh, yeah. There is only 1 house that people moved that I am aware of a few doors down and they also still live local. Easy enough to find out. I don't see them wanting a baby to add to their brood either! Stranger things have happened though!

 

[marge_rita]

Sneak Peek: Judge Jeanine’s Exclusive Interview with Baby Lisa’s Parents
by Justice With Judge Jeanine Posted in: Baby Lisa, Lisa Irwin


http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/0...-exclusive-interview-with-baby-lisas-parents/

“Him[Jeremy] coming in the bedroom saying, ‘Why are the lights on?’ you know, ‘why is the screen popped out of the window?’ Lisa’s bedroom door was open, and we always close it when she goes to sleep at night. He ran back and checked … came in the room and said, ‘Where’s Lisa? Where’s she at?’ I ran back and said, ‘She’s in her crib?’ He said, ‘She’s not there.’ And we got up and started screaming for her and looking everywhere, and she wasn’t there.”

Is this what they said before? I thought he checked on he and saw she was gone before he went to wake Deborah.

The story has changed a smidgen.

 

[grandmaj]

OK FB seems to be a problem in this case. We must be sure we are following the policy of FB in our rules which I posted earlier in this thread.

Let's be careful about FB it is considered rumor here. Ask a mod before repeating what you are reading on Social Media sites. Thanks.

 

[Elley Mae]

The story has changed a smidgen.

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