MO MO - St Louis, BlkFem 8-11, 54UFMO, in abandoned bldg, Feb'83

[Claireishere]

She's had isotopes

Ty is there a link to the results


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[Roselvr]

Ty is there a link to the results


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Doe network

Full Anthropology exam and isotope analysis completed by NCMEC and the Smithsonian. Advanced forensic testing of her bones has also suggested that the female was not originally from the local St. Louis area but possibly spent most of her childhood in the following states: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, and West Virginia.

Additional tests showed that the victim may have also been from the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana and Tennessee.

 

[Claireishere]

Doe network

Full Anthropology exam and isotope analysis completed by NCMEC and the Smithsonian. Advanced forensic testing of her bones has also suggested that the female was not originally from the local St. Louis area but possibly spent most of her childhood in the following states: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, and West Virginia.

Additional tests showed that the victim may have also been from the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana and Tennessee.

That is such a big range...


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[Cubby]

Someone needs to follow up with genealogical DNA for this case. This little girl deserves her name back, and she deserves justice.

 

[Roselvr]

Someone needs to follow up with genealogical DNA for this case. This little girl deserves her name back, and she deserves justice.

Carl contacted her LE about Parabon and DNA Doe Project a few months ago; before Parabon started doing matching. It was the only way we'd see her probable face.

 

[Roselvr]

Carl contacted her LE about Parabon and DNA Doe Project a few months ago; before Parabon started doing matching. It was the only way we'd see her probable face.

Carl took a class where he met someone from Parabon. They told him grants may be available to LE to have her probable face done. With DDP not wanting to do kids; we have no clue if Parabon is the same so everyone say a prayer, positive vibes or cross your fingers and toes lol

 

[carbuff]

Is NCMEC doing anything in the area of probable face technology?

 

[Bit of hope]

Carl contacted her LE about Parabon and DNA Doe Project a few months ago; before Parabon started doing matching. It was the only way we'd see her probable face.

Carl took a class where he met someone from Parabon. They told him grants may be available to LE to have her probable face done. With DDP not wanting to do kids; we have no clue if Parabon is the same so everyone say a prayer, positive vibes or cross your fingers and toes lol

I want to see this poor child's face. Anybody knows what the costs are?

 

[Roselvr]

I want to see this poor child's face. Anybody knows what the costs are?

Unfortunately I don't.. It can't be cheap

 

[rosesfromangels]

I am wondering if this child entered the U.S. as part of the Refugee Act of 1980, which made it easier for those fleeing conflict-ridden areas, like Somalia and Ethiopia, to resettle in the U.S.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Here is a troubling article (warning - very gruesome and disturbing); I am suggesting that perhaps these practices have found their way to the U.S. and may possibly have played a part in this poor child's demise?
Where child sacrifice is a business

 

[Cubby]

Carl contacted her LE about Parabon and DNA Doe Project a few months ago; before Parabon started doing matching. It was the only way we'd see her probable face.

It wasn't her face I was curious about, it's her name. I'd like to see the DNA submitted for a family tree/ reverse family tree so we can find out who this child belonged to. Fwiw, those dna facial recons all look generic to me. I don't believe knowing what she looked like will solve this one. This case needs names of relatives who can help piece this together.

 

[Al Ka]

I want to see this poor child's face. Anybody knows what the costs are?

It is about $4 thousand for DNA (Parabon) Phenotyping sketch.

 

[Bit of hope]

It wasn't her face I was curious about, it's her name. I'd like to see the DNA submitted for a family tree/ reverse family tree so we can find out who this child belonged to. Fwiw, those dna facial recons all look generic to me. I don't believe knowing what she looked like will solve this one. This case needs names of relatives who can help piece this together.

I agree...that's of course the higher goal. The DNA trace is the best option. I hope they pick it up.

 

[Bit of hope]

It is about $4 thousand for DNA (Parabon) Phenotyping sketch.

Thanks Al Ka, that is indeed a lot of money (especially if you multiply that with all the unidentified human remains) I did take a look at the Parabon site. They use this tool also in a lot of unsolved homicide cases to make a "snapshot" of a perpetrator, what turns out to be very useful.

 

[Roselvr]

It wasn't her face I was curious about, it's her name. I'd like to see the DNA submitted for a family tree/ reverse family tree so we can find out who this child belonged to. Fwiw, those dna facial recons all look generic to me. I don't believe knowing what she looked like will solve this one. This case needs names of relatives who can help piece this together.

Parabon does that too now so it would most likely be a 2 for one. They'd do a facial DNA recon and add her to the GEDmatch database. CeCe Moore has signed on with them from the last I read. I'm following a post at City-data in the genealogy section where we've been talking about all the murderer matches. They didn't know about DDP and BG/ Marcia so I filled them in on what started this.

It is about $4 thousand for DNA (Parabon) Phenotyping sketch.

Thanks. I know Carl spoke to the Parabon guy about our girl, he thought there would be funding for LE to have them do her case. They may have to exhume her to get a sample unless they have some remains after the last time when they got DNA for NamUs

 

[Roselvr]

I am wondering if this child entered the U.S. as part of the Refugee Act of 1980, which made it easier for those fleeing conflict-ridden areas, like Somalia and Ethiopia, to resettle in the U.S.

No, we know from isotopes she was born in the US.

Doe Network - 54UFMO - Unidentified Female
Full Anthropology exam and isotope analysis completed by NCMEC and the Smithsonian. Advanced forensic testing of her bones has also suggested that the female was not originally from the local St. Louis area but possibly spent most of her childhood in the following states: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, and West Virginia.

Additional tests showed that the victim may have also been from the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana and Tennessee.

 

[Claireishere]

Is there a way to create a gofund me account for her DNA testing?

 

[Moonwalker9]

I was hoiping DNA Doe could do her, ythey normally dont do kids but maybe an exception can be made. The only thing we know about her is that she liked her entire life in the US. Southern or midwest states.

 

[carbuff]

There are other companies and agencies doing similar work. Parabon, for instance. It's a lot more expensive but being a forensically certified company they can do things that aren't an option for DNA Doe.