Found Deceased MO - Toni Anderson, 20, North Kansas City, 15 Jan 2017 #4

[StPauliGirlK]

"Investigators know that Anderson was driving in an unfamiliar area."

I would like to know how anyone besides Toni would know what is familiar and what is unfamiliar to her. It strikes me as an odd assertion to make with so much certainty.

 

[alicianclary]

During the first couple seconds of the surveillance video, where the narrator says, "he'll come across the street and do a u-turn and turn his lights on and park directly behind her," I can't see anything going on except for a car across the street, on E 26. Maybe that's where the police car came from? They then cut to the traffic stop, and the police car is parked behind her with its lights on.

So we don't really see where the lights were turned on. If we take the narrator's word for it, though, it's after the u-turn. That may be less than ideal on the part of the officer, but I don't see it as suspicious.

ref: http://fox4kc.com/2017/01/20/friend...ppearance-near-gas-station-she-was-last-seen/

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Regarding the ATMs. I can't find much info on inter-bank ATM card usage. As far as I know, bank-specific ATMs can only be used by that bank's ATM cards. I have to admit, that info may be wildly out of date on my part. I've never really cared before, frankly. I only use my card with my own bank's ATMs. Personal policy. I'm not signing up for a mystery fee.

You can use pretty much any ATM no matter your bank. You can tell by the logos on the back of your card. Mine has the Plus and Interlink logos so I can use any ATM in those networks. There is also Star and some others I can't remember for various cards.

The difference in your bank's ATM V.S. an out of network ATM is in the charge. You get double charged a fee if it's not your bank. For example, my card charges me $3 to use an ATM but the ATM owner can charge another fee. Usually it's between $1.25 and $5.99 depending on location of ATM.

Anyway, so I don't think the type of ATM would be a factor in her decision of which ATM, unless she really cared about extra charges.

BTW: All Quiktrips have UMB ATMs because they have an agreement with them.

Hope this helps.

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[BaileyC]

I really hope that all this talk about Mrs. Anderson's feelings towards her daughters profession is finished here. This is not a relevant point and unless a person knows her personally and has been told these things by her, they shouldn't be talked about. It all assumption. I would not want to come on here as a mom of a missing daughter and read this stuff. Seems like a real pissing match to me- whether or not she was a "stripper" or a "server" whether or not her mother knew what she did. Is this really important to dissect whether she was embarrassed or not? Her daughter has been missing for 45 days.........


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I do think it's relevant. One of the reasons it's relevant is for the reason I stated. When you tell a lie then people tend to not believe what else you have to say. Another reason it's relevant is we all know society judges others and some judge and look down on others. In fact I would say many do. People get on their moral high ground. It's sad what Toni loved to do may have been an embarrassment to her family and friends. What she did for money may be keeping some people from caring about her. A person feeling they have to hide something because of the way society will judge them. It's relevant and very relevant because it's a flaw many people would benefit from if they would quit judging others just to feel superior. I could list more reasons I think this is relevant but I'll quit here.

 

[BaileyC]

About Toni being a server at Chrome. Could be she was a server at Chrome and danced at the OutHouse. I'm not certain but a lot has been made of it. Many of Toni's friends and family do not want others speculating about what has happened to Toni nor do they want how she made her money discussed. Trying to cover it up possibly brought it to everyone's attention even more.
If a person wants to try and figure out why Toni would be missing they're going to consider her occupation and why she was out driving that night with nobody seeming to know where she was going or why. They also are going to consider her talking about using drugs and her roommate being arrested for having a controlled substance in his possession and Toni saying she was involved romantically with her drug dealer. This is all relevant to the case and relevant in finding Toni. Someone in the public and not the professionals may be the person or people that will bring Toni home. We don't know why Toni is missing so everything is relevant at this point.

 

[BaileyC]

Believe it or not, they sit around and talk. Perhaps consume various substances together. If she was going to meet friends at the Shady Lady, that's what they do. They "party."

Which is weird, because initial reports had Toni's friends saying that Toni didn't drink or party.

What I was pointing out is that it was said, Toni told the Police officer that pulled her over she was on her way to the Shady Lady to meet with friends. If Toni was out driving to do something illegal, doesn't seem to me she would be telling LE she was on her way to the Shady Lady. The Shady Lady is in a bad part of town and also is known for having connections to drugs.

 

[BaileyC]

"Investigators know that Anderson was driving in an unfamiliar area."

I would like to know how anyone besides Toni would know what is familiar and what is unfamiliar to her. It strikes me as an odd assertion to make with so much certainty.

I posted this earlier and the reason for the assertion could be, they know who she was going to meet, have talked with them and know it was in a place Toni was unfamiliar with.

 

[heartgoesout]

Maybe police say she was known to be in Parkville until 6a because the person she was with stepped up and told them. and what she did after is unknown.
Doubtful but maybe.

 

[heartgoesout]

What I was pointing out is that it was said, Toni told the Police officer that pulled her over she was on her way to the Shady Lady to meet with friends. If Toni was out driving to do something illegal, doesn't seem to me she would be telling LE she was on her way to the Shady Lady. The Shady Lady is in a bad part of town and also is known for having connections to drugs.

I said this a few pages back. Why on earth would she tell police about The Shady Lady??? Just say you're headed home!
I really wish we knew if the wording of all this strange stuff was from shoddy reporting or actual quotes from police!
The picture it's painting is of police coverup.

 

[BaileyC]

I said this a few pages back. Why on earth would she tell police about The Shady Lady??? Just say you're headed home!
I really wish we knew if the wording of all this strange stuff was from shoddy reporting or actual quotes from police!
The picture it's painting is of police coverup.

After reading this I also thought about a Police cover up. I haven't even considered it to be a Police coverup until reading this latest information.

 

[heartgoesout]

I posted this earlier and the reason for the assertion could be, they know who she was going to meet, have talked with them and know it was in a place Toni was unfamiliar with.

Impossible to know! Her friends could guess but really have no idea if a place was unfamiliar to her or not.

 

[BaileyC]

Impossible to know! Her friends could guess but really have no idea if a place was unfamiliar to her or not.

The person she was meeting with may not have been a friend and had to give Toni directions, knew she didn't know how to get to the destination.

The quote is not by me but by heartgoesout.

 

[heartgoesout]

And if police "know" that she was driving in an unfamiliar place then A.) someone had to have stepped up and spoke to police (like a date) and B.) Why hasn't that location been released to search for her.

I think a lot of us have the gut feeling something aint right.

 

[heartgoesout]

We're posting at the same time, lol do I'm not seeing all your thoughts right away. my quotes thing was acting up too btw

 

[BaileyC]

And if police "know" that she was driving in an unfamiliar place then A.) someone had to have stepped up and spoke to police (like a date) and B.) Why hasn't that location been released to search for her.

I think a lot of us have the gut feeling something aint right.

My thoughts are, LE searched close to where this person lives and the route she would take home but found nothing so they think she may have gotten lost or went somewhere else other than home.
Thing is, why are they releasing this information now, is the case closed or still being investigated? Like you've stated, is this even fact.

 

[BaileyC]

I really hope that all this talk about Mrs. Anderson's feelings towards her daughters profession is finished here. This is not a relevant point and unless a person knows her personally and has been told these things by her, they shouldn't be talked about. It all assumption. I would not want to come on here as a mom of a missing daughter and read this stuff. Seems like a real pissing match to me- whether or not she was a "stripper" or a "server" whether or not her mother knew what she did. Is this really important to dissect whether she was embarrassed or not? Her daughter has been missing for 45 days.........


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I wanted to add this article to my previous post about why I feel hiding the fact Toni is a dancer is relevant to this case but waited to long to do an edit. Societies views on being a dancer and or prostitute could have contributed to why Toni is missing.

http://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/new-blog/2016/6/26/prostitutes-vs-strippers-a-comparison

 

[AceDetective]

I know this topic is being beat to death... but I looked up some info last night and might as well post it.

According to google maps:
- QuikTrip to Shady Lady: 11 minutes
- QuikTrip to Bank of the West to Shady Lady: 9 + 14 = 23 minutes

So it doesn't add that much time. The extra gas would be under a dollar.

Chances are good she could technically have been able to use one of the 4 ATMs near or in the QuikTrip with her Bank of the West card. Her bank charges $0 or $1 and most bank-affiliated "ATM operators" charge $2.50 to $3.00, so the total fee wouldn't be much. It seems debatable whether or not she would travel to the Bank of the West just to avoid known charges, however, she may have had no idea what ATM she could use or how much it would cost.

The latest article tends to imply she didn't go to her bank, though, since she went to "parts unknown." If she went to the bank the police would know all about it. Hopefully we eventually get more details about her movements up near Parkville.

I've always thought that if she did go to her bank, then getting car-jacked at the bank or shortly after visiting it would be a good theory. Just going by what the police are saying this doesn't seem likely.

One point, though: if she were planning to travel, and was driving near her bank, wouldn't she stop in for some cash? I would really like to know whether she visited her bank or not.

 

[policyoftruth501]

Maybe police say she was known to be in Parkville until 6a because the person she was with stepped up and told them. and what she did after is unknown.
Doubtful but maybe.

Or maybe the police know things that they aren't telling us.


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[heartgoesout]

There is no evidence she used her card anywhere other than the QT.

Speaking of which, I don't even think there is such a thing as an ATM card anymore. Is there? Aren't they just debit cards that can be used anywhere? Or a credit card tied into an account that can be used as a debit or credit card.
I haven't used the term ATM card in years.

 

[heartgoesout]

Or maybe the police know things that they aren't telling us.


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oh i think the police know lots of things they are telling us.
desolate unfindable road
places unknown
not an accident, oh wait yes an accident
etc.. etc.. etc..

 

[MaxManning]

One point, though: if she were planning to travel, and was driving near her bank, wouldn't she stop in for some cash? I would really like to know whether she visited her bank or not.

If this happened, we'd know because banks have records.

So if she did and we don't know, it's because of poor police work or them holding back information, similar to how dashcam and QT surveillance.

I don't rule out CI situation or even police corruption. Why? because the evidence we currently have, supports it still. When police release the dashcam/QT surveillance, that may exclude them.

imo, they are still suspicious. Not likely, but would be silly to exclude them at this point.