Monday night's questions about Haleigh's clothes and laundry

[azwriter]

I've been thinking about the Monday Haleigh went missing. Early morning and the mad dash to where? Misty said to get an outfit Haleigh wanted to wear to school. Really, does this sound right? After the wild weekend they both had, These two are going to say OK dear, we'll just drive, what is it to GGS's, about 15 miles and get you your outfit?

I have my doubts that Haleigh was even at the MH that Monday AM. Where could she have been and why was Ron in a panic to get her? Lets say she did spend the night at GGS's, why would Ron go speeding past the but stop? If she wasn't home and not at GGS's where could she have been?

News Junkie, thanks for starting the thread. Getting a specific outfit for a five year old early in the morning seems far fetched.
About the bolded item. I'm in a silly mood and I just couldn't pass up the "but stop" in your post.

 

[txsvicki]

Was that favorites outfit that Haleigh supposedly wore to school that day ever found?

 

[lonetraveler]

Was that favorites outfit that Haleigh supposedly wore to school that day ever found?

I think that is an excellent question and it appears that it should be a simple answer but even this simple qestion can't be answered.:banghead:

 

[Crosby87]

Ron loves to “showboat” and this is why I think he would jump at a chance to drive HaLeigh to school or anywhere she needed to go as long as he was in the driver’s seat. Maybe Ron wanted to beat the children’s bus to school that morning and that is why he eagerly took off to Palatka. I’m sure Ron would find this game fun. Driving with Ron would be a hair raising experience and I wonder if R & M argued about “showboating” off in front of the children in the morning and that is why she stayed home in the afternoon while “Junior was sleeping” rather than drive again with Ronald. JMO

 

[Whisperer]

If the school did not erase that "U" for unexcused, who would have done it? The additional explanation that was typed was the oddest thing about the entire record. Somebody went out of there way to type in explanations for the U, E , T and "." They typed in explained the "." (DOT)meant "attended and on time". In Government records, I have not seen this before, as it is not necessary when there is a place for Tardy on the record.

It appeared to be overkill. They type did not match the record as the record appeared to be a carbon. The explanations were typed with a different typewriter or computer as the rest of the record did not match at all. Why would that be released? The school would not have done this. It tells me somebody wanted to prove Haleigh's school attendance to the public. We can be darn sure that copy was not retrieved by LE but most likely by a parent or family member for evidence of attendance.

The answers lie in the 911 call. Misty had NO idea what Haleigh was wearing when she left that MH.
It is possible that the last time she saw Haleigh she WAS wearing the pink shirt, as that is what she wore to school. We have Haleigh being driven home by RC. RC says he just dropped her and sped off to work. Misty says he was inside loving her, jr and Haleigh and then left.

Her job was to say she and the children were asleep. The had dinner and watched movies and were PUT to bed at a normal hour just like half of America does each night. I think not!...as these two are far removed from the Walton's family model....can't imagine any routine in that house. IMO, Misty most likely left that house any chance she could get. I would not be surprised if the kids were given benedryl or something else to get them to settle down. I think Haleigh was a handful and if she didn't want to sleep, she was not going to go to sleep.....period.

 

[believe09]

Yellow, I agree with you - I'd have to tell my kid TOO BAD, especially after getting a letter threatening me with prosecution for that child's truancy. The ONLY reason to add 30 minutes of driving to the morning routine would be NO clothes at all in the m/h, or to get Haleigh herself. [What elementary school parent has that kind of time?]

Nonetheless, I think the whole trip to Welaka [and/or to Palatka WalMart] that morning for clean clothes is crazy. Pure nonsense intended to mislead us, if not LE.

Again, I have to wonder if Haleigh was at school at all on Monday.

Walmart would have captured this on film-think LE has it?

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I've been thinking about the Monday Haleigh went missing. Early morning and the mad dash to where? Misty said to get an outfit Haleigh wanted to wear to school. Really, does this sound right? After the wild weekend they both had, These two are going to say OK dear, we'll just drive, what is it to GGS's, about 15 miles and get you your outfit?

I have my doubts that Haleigh was even at the MH that Monday AM. Where could she have been and why was Ron in a panic to get her? Lets say she did spend the night at GGS's, why would Ron go speeding past the but stop? If she wasn't home and not at GGS's where could she have been?

:waitasec:I have always felt that Haleigh was not home that Monday morning and that is why she didn't take the bus to school. I have always felt that Ron was out looking for Misty and Haleigh was taken to school by GGMA or later by Ron and Misty after he picked her up. She took off on him and I always felt he was trying to track her down all weekend and since it was not CS weekend to keep the children he pawned them off on TN or GGMS. It has never been revealed who had the children that weekend...some of the police report has been blanked out and I wonder if it mentions where the children were prior, it must be one of the questions LE would ask I would think.


In the original police report it was said that Haleigh was last seen in Pink T-shirt, and Tan Shorts. Now, Misty later on found that pink t-shirt when LE took her back into the MH. What I find odd is who would put there child to bed with a Pink T-shirt, and Tan Shorts in the middle of winter? Misty also said she put Haleigh to be in her Pj's in another interview (http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/21857289/amber-alert.htm)
My question would be, what Pj's did Haleigh have on?


:waitasec: Ron claims he went to GGMS to get Haleigh an outfit....GGMS comes over the night Haleigh goes missing around 7pm to bring over clean clothe. Sounds to me like someone was already creating an alibi. I truly doubt that someone as strick as Ron that will hit his children the way DCF says he can, would rush over to get Haleigh a shirt from GGMS house. Wonder if LE got his pings for his cell phone? I really wish they would throw us a bone. At least with pings from Ron and Misty's phone we could try to establish a time line and what all they were doing that week.

Also,

Ron was to get off work at midnight, that is when his shift ended from what his attorney had stated on NG a while back. He decided to work the extra hours the night Haleigh went missing...even after having a fight with Misty and her turning her phone off at 8:30PM. Instead of dashing home to check on his children knowing he left them with someone who was out on a alcohol/drug binge for 4 days straight, he works the extra hours?

It was also said that GGMS came over and brought clean clothe for the children that night, she didn't mention that Ron had came over that morning to get a change of clothe for Haleigh though. She only mentioned that she went to the home that evening at around 7PM and sees the children eating dinner outside on the porch...lets not forget it was dark and cold why would anyone not say anything? She just dropps the clothe off and leaves and sees nothing wrong with the children eating outside in the cold?

 

[Donjeta]

New Pictures and Stories About Little Haleigh
Jessica Clark Created: 2/20/2009 6:09:31 PM Updated: 2/28/2009 12:07:26 AM
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Then there's her school portrait. It's the one on the flyers around the county. Haleigh dons a pink hair bow and a pink top with a butterfly embroidered on the front.

Neves said Misty Croslin, Haleigh's father's girlfriend dressed Haleigh that day.

Neves laughed and said, "Unfortunately Misty let her pick what she wanted to wear which meant there were 50 outfits on the floor every day!"


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=131857&provider=top

Does "that day" refer to the day the school photo was taken? If it refers to the day of the disappearance TN doesn't mention the mad dash to get clothes.

Anyhow, with 50 outfits or more to choose from I would assume it unlikely that they are all dirty or in storage at Granny's house at the same time. So, they probably didn't drive there because there were no clean clothes to wear at home. Either Haleigh pitched an awful hissy fit over not getting her favorite shirt and they had absolutely no clue how to handle it or they had some other reason for driving there.

I wonder if they found out what Haleigh wore while they drove to Welaka. She had to have some clothes on. Which ones and have they been recovered?

 

[Whisperer]

Good question Donejat...
If the story is true then GMA has them and we will never know the truth. Neves said she sent GMA over to check on the kids and add "also to deliver laundry"....think about it. Why would Neves tell her mother to delvier laundry?
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GMa says THAT is why she came by, to give misty laundry...yeah, ok..

I did not know Florida can get that cold. This is January there and they are colder than we are. There is no way those kids were sitting on the porch with weather like this, balancing a plate in their lap, while waving to Granny.

I wish the school would tell us. If what misty says was true, Haleigh would have arrived late more than likely.

 

[Whisperer]

So Neves said misty dressed her that day?? Is that to solidify the fact that misty was there. How does TN know every single detail of the case. She was not there. Who is relating the info to her or is she making it up? She even offers up they never close their bedroom door when they sleep. How in the begeezies would she know that?

Could it be because misty was NOT there? That's my guess. I get the impression that Haleigh was a handful and neither of those two were equipped to deal with her.

My impression of that day and night is that Ron was really in a "mood" as he could not find babysitting for the kids and he had to go to work...he was fuming and searching for misty. If he found her and where he found her is the mystery.

 

[debs]

nono, it says that Neves says Ronald's girlfriend got Haleigh dressed in the mornings, usually leaving outfits all over (50 may be a bit of an exaggeration for affect).

 

[Whisperer]

I'm sure it's exaggerated. I know the dramatics by now. So none of these outfits were going to satisfy Haleigh. Wouldn't you just love to hear rc explain this instead of his mother who didn't live there? TN has alluded to clothes on the floor before. Now, I guess the only night there was not clothes on the floor was the night of the abduction because the hallway floor had to be clear since the inside door was only open about two inches. That door closes on its own IF nothing is on the floor to stop it.

 

[azwriter]

Okay, I'm confused about the laundry stories.
Ron had a washer and dryer in the motorhome. So, why was his Grandma doing the laundry and having to deliver it to his place?
Was it because Haleigh and Jr. and their dirty clothes were not at home over the weekend before Haliegh disappeared but at Ron's Grandma's home. And there was no Misty around to do the laundry. Was that one of Misty's duties?
And, if Ron and Misty had to take Haleigh to his Grandma's place for a specific outfit, why didn't Grandma give them the clean laundry at that time? Or was she not finished washing it that Monday morning?
And, if Misty received a delivery of clean laundry that evening, why was Misty doing laundry as she claimed? While Ron says there was no detergent in the home for her to do laundry.
And, why if Grandma delivered clean laundry Monday evening, why was it reported that there were dirty clothes on the floor in front of the washer/dryer area and a claim from Ron there was dirty clothes in the dryer.
There is entirely too many laundry (dirty or clean) stories surrounding the the day and night before Haleigh went missing.
I think I'm losing my mind over this focus on laundry.
Can anyone straighten this out for me?

 

[Whisperer]

Ever get the impression that Gma Sykes was the one raising the kids? I wonder how many days a week they went to Sykes to pick up the kids. School must have been a real hassle if my theory holds. Ever why TN was NOT the one doing the laundry? hmm..maybe she didn't live nearby? I don't think r & m did too much and doing laundry was seldom done by them and likely fell in the hands of GMA...imo

 

[Emeralgem]

Okay, I'm confused about the laundry stories.
Ron had a washer and dryer in the motorhome. So, why was his Grandma doing the laundry and having to deliver it to his place?
Was it because Haleigh and Jr. and their dirty clothes were not at home over the weekend before Haliegh disappeared but at Ron's Grandma's home. And there was no Misty around to do the laundry. Was that one of Misty's duties?
And, if Ron and Misty had to take Haleigh to his Grandma's place for a specific outfit, why didn't Grandma give them the clean laundry at that time? Or was she not finished washing it that Monday morning?
And, if Misty received a delivery of clean laundry that evening, why was Misty doing laundry as she claimed? While Ron says there was no detergent in the home for her to do laundry.
And, why if Grandma delivered clean laundry Monday evening, why was it reported that there were dirty clothes on the floor in front of the washer/dryer area and a claim from Ron there was dirty clothes in the dryer.
There is entirely too many laundry (dirty or clean) stories surrounding the the day and night before Haleigh went missing.
I think I'm losing my mind over this focus on laundry.
Can anyone straighten this out for me?

I can't... But it sounds to me like you did a pretty good job explaining the whole scenario..JMO

 

[Kimster]

When I first heard that GGMS did the laundry, I was thinking about dysfunctional family life. My opinion was that she did the laundry because it wasn't getting done by Ron or Misty. Perhaps Ron expected Misty to do it but she wasn't doing it and I can hear an older family member thinking "Dang it! If those dern kids aren't going to do the laundry for the babies then I guess I'll just hafta get it done myself!"

That's just how I took it in the beginning and could it be that maybe that is the simple explanation? Just throwing that out there for y'all to consider.

 

[azwriter]

Ever get the impression that Gma Sykes was the one raising the kids? I wonder how many days a week they went to Sykes to pick up the kids. School must have been a real hassle if my theory holds. Ever why TN was NOT the one doing the laundry? hmm..maybe she didn't live nearby? I don't think r & m did too much and doing laundry was seldom done by them and likely fell in the hands of GMA...imo

You know Whispered, I just has a fit of laughter. I got a mental picture of Ron washing clothes, neatly folding them and putting them away.

 

[txsvicki]

Let's see... Misty and Ron had only been together about 5 months, in that time they could not get Haleigh to school and were about to get into trouble. Ron had also been investigated by DCF. I figure that whole week before Haleigh went missing they were fussing and fighting with Misty manipulating and showing fake pregnancy test. There was no laundry detergent in the home. They probably had to go to Walmart to get Haleigh something to wear and the grandma probably had all the school clothes laundering them. If they couldn't bother to have detergent in the home or get the child to school more often, they weren't going to have any clean clothes in the home. There were even dirty clothes in the dryer.

 

[News Junkie]

Okay, I'm confused about the laundry stories.
Ron had a washer and dryer in the motorhome. So, why was his Grandma doing the laundry and having to deliver it to his place?
Was it because Haleigh and Jr. and their dirty clothes were not at home over the weekend before Haliegh disappeared but at Ron's Grandma's home. And there was no Misty around to do the laundry. Was that one of Misty's duties?
And, if Ron and Misty had to take Haleigh to his Grandma's place for a specific outfit, why didn't Grandma give them the clean laundry at that time? Or was she not finished washing it that Monday morning?
And, if Misty received a delivery of clean laundry that evening, why was Misty doing laundry as she claimed? While Ron says there was no detergent in the home for her to do laundry.
And, why if Grandma delivered clean laundry Monday evening, why was it reported that there were dirty clothes on the floor in front of the washer/dryer area and a claim from Ron there was dirty clothes in the dryer.
There is entirely too many laundry (dirty or clean) stories surrounding the the day and night before Haleigh went missing.
I think I'm losing my mind over this focus on laundry.
Can anyone straighten this out for me?

I can’t figure any of this out either, probably because more than half of it is just BS. Think about it, there is no laundry detergent, and on the way home Ron decided to buy beer and peanuts.

I recently read something about Ron and Misty stopping at the Wal-Mart, that Monday AM. I’m sure if this was something they forgot to mention before they figured that they better say so now because there is no way anyone can go to that store and not be on video. I don’t know, but if I’m out of laundry, bath or dish soap, it’s one of the first things I would buy. Does anyone know about a visit to the Walmart?

 

[Concerned Papa]

IF GGM was there, which I'm not at all sure I believe, and IF she handed the clothes to Misty on the porch as claimed, the quantity would seem to be relatively small.

If so, what would have been the urgency of a 30 mile round trip to deliver them at 7:00 to 8:00 at night?