Motion to stop jail recordings: denied Thurdsay

[Spangle]

Agree that these particular vids should probably be exempt - unless they are of "special nature" like showing the unauthorized "hugging" or something.

But still WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM!!! heh :crazy:

Oh, to be reminded of the boring days of watching the A's house. Just waiting for something interesting to happen. With no sound.. just video. IF you turned away to do something interesting, then what was the point of .. monitoring for news..... LOL!

But in this case.. it might be an interesting show to keep folks awake.

 

[eaglemom]

I don't think the Judge will ever ok any of the video. I think it was a heads up to JB. He opened a door that he shouldn't have opened. NO ONE ever expected such video to see the light of day and would never request it. Because of the nature of it.

HOWEVER, because of JB's possible conduct with his client, THAT issue is one that to investigate, one needs to view those tapes. WOOPS! I can see that after the trial being over, someone request the tapes.. NOW. Were before they would think they couldn't touch them. Ever. With the trial being over, the Judge would more likely just release them.

It *could* open the door for the Judge reviewing them before the trial is EVEN over because of requests and seeing inappropriate/unethical behavior and submitting complaints to the bar for review and, I suppose, could cause JB to be removed from KC's defense team if his behavior was inappropriate/unethical enough...... thus causing more delays in her trial

 

[reeseeva]

"The Court has witnessed, at least one prior video, which could arguably affect the Defendant's right to a fair trial, as well a Jury selection."

Reading the Judge's wording, sets the imagination wild on what it could be, and IMO plants a vivid picture of her guilt, in not allowing this to be seen. Have to thank Jose B. for bringing this motion to Light.

 

[Kathy1964]

I think it was BeanE who said no one even realized these videos could be released under the Sunshine laws until Baez made this motion to withhold them from release. Good one Baez, can you walk on that foot you just shot?

Does anyone have a link to that motion?
During the hearing on 12-11 AL made reference to "some communication with Mr. Baez the videotapes have been released" What is that about? Is she referring to Casey's reaction on 12-11-08, or something else?
Thanks,
Katharine

 

[logicalgirl]

"The Court has witnessed, at least one prior video, which could arguably affect the Defendant's right to a fair trial, as well a Jury selection."

Reading the Judge's wording, sets the imagination wild on what it could be, and IMO plants a vivid picture of her guilt, in not allowing this to be seen. Have to thank Jose B. for bringing this motion to Light.

Reeseeva, it was the video taken outside of the medical office of Casey. She could see the monitor on the TV re the news Caylee's body had been found - and she had the strong reaction. Actually it was the body of a small child however speculation is she knew it was Caylee, thus the reaction. And the reason JS sealed it - it could affect her right to a fair trial. If you remember the media asked for it after the guard's testimony.

 

[justthinkin]

Reeseeva, it was the video taken outside of the medical office of Casey. She could see the monitor on the TV re the news Caylee's body had been found - and she had the strong reaction. Actually it was the body of a small child however speculation is she knew it was Caylee, thus the reaction. And the reason JS sealed it - it could affect her right to a fair trial. If you remember the media asked for it after the guard's testimony.

In other words, she was pizzed when she saw it, probably went into a rage, and thus her reaction was way out of line for someone supposedly innocent until proven guilty.

 

[logicalgirl]

She hyperventilated, broke out in a rash, bent over and asked for a tranqu, which they gave her. Oh yes, and asked to have her waist chain loosened. Said it was too tight.

 

[reeseeva]

Reeseeva, it was the video taken outside of the medical office of Casey. She could see the monitor on the TV re the news Caylee's body had been found - and she had the strong reaction. Actually it was the body of a small child however speculation is she knew it was Caylee, thus the reaction. And the reason JS sealed it - it could affect her right to a fair trial. If you remember the media asked for it after the guard's testimony.

Thanks, LG, I do know that is what they are referring to, but also, it makes one wonder how, if her reactions were just shock, hyperventilation, etc., these reactions could be construed as affecting her right to a fair trial, or poisoning a potential jury pool:waitasec: I think there is much more to it, or at least, not knowing exactly, makes one ponder a myriad of negative possibilities.

 

[justthinkin]

She hyperventilated, broke out in a rash, bent over and asked for a tranqu, which they gave her. Oh yes, and asked to have her waist chain loosened. Said it was too tight.

I remember that too, but those are not reasons to seal the tape so there must have been more. Those sound like they could be normal reactions.
She probably did her rage thing first.

 

[logicalgirl]

Thanks, LG, I do know that is what they are referring to, but also, it makes one wonder how, if her reactions were just shock, hyperventilation, etc., these reactions could be construed as affecting her right to a fair trial, or poisoning a potential jury pool:waitasec: I think there is much more to it, or at least, not knowing exactly, makes one ponder a myriad of negative possibilities.

Well, I guess if it was me - and I was watching the news that the body of my child had probably been found - I'm sure I would have been crying hysterically and wailing - Nooooooo - my baby - nooooooo! I certainly wouldn't have remained seated and hyperventilating. I think it begs the question - was she scared stiff from the shock of getting caught?

 

[QB.]

Defendant's Objection regarding protective order
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22282699/detail.html

Seems defense isn't letting this go.
The actual title for this motion is:

Defendant's Objection to Orange County's Opposition-By-Letter to Proposed Amended Order on Defendant's Motion for Protective Order.

Can anyone translate?

 

[Gnatcatcher]

from the last part:

"... Miss Anthony's attorneys may have to advise their client that the meetings cannot continue for fear of confidential information leaking to the press. Miss Anthony's counsel does not wish to give her this advice, but if they cannot meet with their client without the threat of videotapes of those meetings being distributed to the public, they will be forced to do so. The inability to meet with counsel, and its attendant ramifications, will amount to per se ineffective assistance of counsel."


What are they trying to do there...

 

[QB.]

from the last part:

"... Miss Anthony's attorneys may have to advise their client that the meetings cannot continue for fear of confidential information leaking to the press. Miss Anthony's counsel does not wish to give her this advice, but if they cannot meet with their client without the threat of videotapes of those meetings being distributed to the public, they will be forced to do so. The inability to meet with counsel, and its attendant ramifications, will amount to per se ineffective assistance of counsel."


What are they trying to do there...

BBM
Yes, that is the part that stuck out to me too.

 

[believe09]

"The Court has witnessed, at least one prior video, which could arguably affect the Defendant's right to a fair trial, as well a Jury selection."

Reading the Judge's wording, sets the imagination wild on what it could be, and IMO plants a vivid picture of her guilt, in not allowing this to be seen. Have to thank Jose B. for bringing this motion to Light.

I like to imagine she yelled something that made it clear she knew all along where her daughter was....

 

[believe09]

from the last part:

"... Miss Anthony's attorneys may have to advise their client that the meetings cannot continue for fear of confidential information leaking to the press. Miss Anthony's counsel does not wish to give her this advice, but if they cannot meet with their client without the threat of videotapes of those meetings being distributed to the public, they will be forced to do so. The inability to meet with counsel, and its attendant ramifications, will amount to per se ineffective assistance of counsel."


What are they trying to do there...

NOW we have it. The only real means that they can have ineffective assistance of counsel without completely screwing up their own future revenue....nicely played. AND AL can bail from this sinking ship.

 

[Snaz]

from the last part:

"... Miss Anthony's attorneys may have to advise their client that the meetings cannot continue for fear of confidential information leaking to the press. Miss Anthony's counsel does not wish to give her this advice, but if they cannot meet with their client without the threat of videotapes of those meetings being distributed to the public, they will be forced to do so. The inability to meet with counsel, and its attendant ramifications, will amount to per se ineffective assistance of counsel."


What are they trying to do there...

Doesn't this amount to some form of threat?

 

[The World According]

I trust the good Judge will put the brakes on this runaway train in the hearings next week. I wish he would say once and for all that there is an order of the court that no attorney client visit of Casey is to be released to the public, unless and until there is some charge of wrongdoing during one of those meetings. This is just the kind of technicality Casey was hoping for. We do not need Andrea resigning in feigned righteous indignation and the case being further delayed by the new lawyer having to be brought up to speed.


I am hoping we also learn at the hearings that indeed Dominic was deposed by the state as the judge ordered last hearing.

It is clear they plan to use this taping of the a/c visits as a reason for appeal already. My vote is this gets nipped in the bud sooner rather than later. I trust the judge is well aware of the potential landmine. I trust he will do what is just. He has my complete respect.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

Doesn't this amount to some form of threat?

I hope JS and the prosecution call them out on this garbage....AND....ITA....sounds like a "you do this, or else"......

Not that I care about actually "seeing" the attorney visits...just so they keep recording them is all I'm concerned with....IMO
ALTHOUGH...I'd pay to see the "licorice" incident visit...if it really happened.

ETA : As others have posted...who really KNEW these tapes could be viewed??? And I can't say as I remember anyone ASKING to see them....before his wacko motion....haven't seen anyone asking to see them even now...I could be mistaken, though.

 

[QB.]

Didn't RH say at one point that all JB had to do when meeting with kc at jail was to ask for a room without video surveillance?

 

[RR0004]

Doesn't this amount to some form of threat?

...and what the heck is going on in these meetings that makes them any different than other attorney/client conferences?