MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #11

[Angelswing]

Ali said the tow driver said "they set a girl on fire" and that his clocks on camera were an hour ahead because they hadn't been reset for the time change.
Uncle mike? Is that Eubanks (they guy that found her) ?

 

[swedie]

I'm still holding onto hope Jessica's murderer(s) will be caught. Sometimes these cases just take more time than others. Sometimes the murderer(s) spills information to someone they believe they can trust, or new evidence comes to light, or the prep commits another crime, or perhaps LE don't have quite enough evidence to arrest the person/people responsible, but are watching and waiting for them to screw up. IMO it's just a matter of time. RIP Jessica, justice will prevail.

 

[gngr~snap]

Ali said the tow driver said "they set a girl on fire" and that his clocks on camera were an hour ahead because they hadn't been reset for the time change.
Uncle mike? Is that Eubanks (they guy that found her) ?

I think he is a Hudson. The Uncle Mike at the crime scene on Sunday.
He may be the brother of Lisa's first husband. In his 50's maybe.
Eubanks is younger.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Unless someone talks. This case may go unsolved for years. The cops know everything they need to know pertaining to the hearsay and tons of questionable characters. But obviously they don't have enough factual evidence. Or they can't figure out who and who not to believe.

But I also think LE is trying to figure out if a gang affiliate was involved or the guy who got the bad drugs from her was involved.

So there is so much reasonable doubt; That they need more to actually figure this out. Jmo

 

[cady]

Then I'm sure you are familiar with Berry College. It was a small college eons ago!

That's where I watch my eagles! JMO

 

[rbarber17]

There exists a video interview by reporters of Ali. Near the end, the reporters had a sly trick up their sleeve as Ali believes the recorded conversation is "off the record" and all devices have ceased capturing his words. A white truck enters the parking lot of M&Ms. The white truck's loud pipes cause enough attention for Ali to turn his head toward the noise.

It just seems to me that "the louder, the faster, the better" the cars, trucks, motorcycles, crotch rockets and unicycles are in C'land/B'ville. As for me, I prefer a smooth ride. Life has to have its luxuries.

My guess, the loud tailpipes tip narrowed it down to about half the vehicles in Panola County.

 

[rbarber17]

Cady, Cornell Lab of Ornithology?

 

[rbarber17]

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But I also think LE is trying to figure out if a gang affiliate was involved or the guy who got the bad drugs from her was involved.

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Wondering whether LE is taking the opportunity of interviewing RH's cell mates following all his recent jail time, to see if he might have said anything incriminating (awake or in his sleep.) Might have even planted someone undercover to befriend him and gain his confidence. Or have I just been watching too much TV?

 

[cady]

Cady, Cornell Lab of Ornithology?

On eagle cam at Berry College in GA...

 

[rbarber17]

On eagle cam at Berry College in GA...

Cornell puts up several nest cams around the U.S. at different times each year. Earlier this year they had an owl nest at a school somewhere in GA.

We feed the birds around here, which occasionally draws the attention of a Cooper's Hawk. That adds a whole new dimension to the term "bird feeder" since they eat mostly other birds. You can tell when one is around: everybody else scatters.

 

[DeDee]

That's where I watch my eagles! JMO

How fortunate for you, cady! Many moons ago, my first eagle sighting was while I was on a business trip in Dalton, GA (Carpet capitol of the USA & many/most of their residents lived with up to 20 people in a house at one time). I was driving along the frontage road so I was able to pull aside and watch the grand eagle with his wide-wing span gliding in the sky until he flew further into the trees than I could see. It's a special experience I remember vividly to this very day. Thank you for reminding me of a fond memory. You guys are wonderful! This is one of my favorite WS threads due to the camaraderie, kindness and respect that's shown to all posters. # JusticeForJesscia!

My granddaughters adore owls and would so love to have owls nesting in their courtyard. How could one attract owls to their live oak trees?

Regarding the Herron Road CS, Lynnsey Fowler, whose husband, unfortunately, has been in jail this year, went fishing at Enid Lake at or around 7:15 on December 6, 2014. She and her sister, Amanda Shields, later visited the CS.

"Shields &#8212; who, like Fowler, lives close to the scene &#8212; went to school with Chambers at South Panola High School where Chambers graduated in 2013. They hung out there and socially."

I know Shields lived off Carlisle on the side street that's on the same side of the road just before reaching JCs home. Where did Lynnsey live ATT?

"I'm the kind that'll bounce out there and start asking questions to find out what happened because that'll be the only way to get any information," Fowler said. "We owe that to Jessica."

Did Ms Fowler get out there and start asking questions to find answers to her friend's murder?

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/12/10/woman-set-on-fire/20211445/

The earliest report of the sisters' visit to the CS is an article dated Tuesday, Dec. 9, 2014. Does anyone know if that is the date of their actual visit to the CS?

http://jackson.suntimes.com/jms-new...riend-i-would-have-fought-for-her-if-i-had-to


*This is my post, my words, thoughts and opinions. NO ONE has permission to take it to any other site without my permission that I will not grant.

 

[rbarber17]

On eagle cam at Berry College in GA...

Too bad they didn't have a nest cam set up across the road from the Herron Road CS. Some have infrared capability. It automatically switches on during nighttime hours of the day, to provide 24-hour coverage. LE could have staked out the CS after the fact with a setup like that in some of the trees across the road, to see who dropped by afterward. Perps have been known to revisit the scene of their crime. Of course, there would have been many, many innocent curiosity seekers in the weeks after the murder, too, making it difficult to sort the bad guy(s) out.

 

[Classito]

According to Tom Dees...There was 5 medium sized bags of evidence taken from inside car..I am assuming there were items taken for fingerprint, dna samples.....wonder what filled 5 medium sized bags...

Classito

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Too bad they didn't have a nest cam set up across the road from the Herron Road CS. Some have infrared capability. It automatically switches on during nighttime hours of the day, to provide 24-hour coverage. LE could have staked out the CS after the fact with a setup like that in some of the trees across the road, to see who dropped by afterward. Perps have been known to revisit the scene of their crime. Of course, there would have been many, many innocent curiosity seekers in the weeks after the murder, too, making it difficult to sort the bad guy(s) out.

....uh yeah...since there's so many people living in that big metropolis (insert sarcasm)....

 

[rbarber17]

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According to Tom Dees...There was 5 medium sized bags of evidence taken from inside car..I am assuming there were items taken for fingerprint, dna samples.....wonder what filled 5 medium sized bags...

Classito

Wow, that's a lot of stuff. I would have thought nothing but metal or glass objects could have survived those temperatures. No idea.

BTW, I thought Jessica had just cleaned out her car...

 

[gngr~snap]

I have always thought that she packed her car up and was "going somewhere".

Lisa Daugherty said "Jessica's car was destroyed by fire, so if she had anything written down and stored there, it went up in flames with her."

IMO that is the main reason her car was burned. To destroy her and all of the things she kept in the trunk away from her "nosy" mother.
That is one of the reasons I don't think that any of the people that have been discussed, killed her.
If the purpose of burning her car was to burn the journal she had, it sounds like that may not have been successful.
Keep in mind when bagging and tagging evidence, it is usually one item per bag.
So really it may have been only 5 items.

"With Jessica, if she had anything important written down, it was in her car, because she would have been afraid Mama would go in there and see it, because Mama was nosy like that. So the first thing she would do is take it and put it in her car. It would be in the trunk."
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/02/14/moms-last-words-jessica-chambers/23442951/

 

[DeDee]

I have always thought that she packed her car up and was "going somewhere".

Lisa Daugherty said "Jessica's car was destroyed by fire, so if she had anything written down and stored there, it went up in flames with her."

IMO that is the main reason her car was burned. To destroy her and all of the things she kept in the trunk away from her "nosy" mother.
That is one of the reasons I don't think that any of the people that have been discussed, killed her.
If the purpose of burning her car was to burn the journal she had, it sounds like that may not have been successful.
Keep in mind when bagging and tagging evidence, it is usually one item per bag.
So really it may have been only 5 items.

"With Jessica, if she had anything important written down, it was in her car, because she would have been afraid Mama would go in there and see it, because Mama was nosy like that. So the first thing she would do is take it and put it in her car. It would be in the trunk."
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/02/14/moms-last-words-jessica-chambers/23442951/

You do know that I totally understand where you are coming from with this theory. There have been some carefully planted stories about JC ripping off others, and rumors of that nature. Given the unusual amount of gas purchased, although not an excessive amount, she could have potentially been "running away".

Bear in mind, when Ali claimed that her car left M&Ms headed South, her car would have to go south onto Hwy 51 in order to avoid running into the folks, such as SRudd, who were gathered around the dumpster at M&Ms. It does not preclude her from heading south and taking an immediate right to drive along Carlisle to her own home (the residence in the TL) to give her mom the cigs or to access Shiloh Road. If Ali was inside the store working, how did he know which direction in which she left unless he was keeping a very watchful eye on her?

JCs car had only been recently been returned to her to drive. Reports are a bit conflicting; however, wasn't JCs car returned to JC by her dad about the last two weeks before her death? If that is true, and she left LH in October, where was JC keeping her journal/diary/story/book before her car was returned to her in late November?

It is common therapy to have a patient write or journal their thoughts while in treatment centers, such as Leah's House, so that it may assist the patients face their life's realities and go forward with a new approach to handling reactions to stressful or unpleasant situations without self-harm.

This is why JC approached Ms Oliver. JMHO JC had already begun to write or journal her troubled past. By that, I mean, her past as being the dysfunctional issues in her immediate and intermingled family. One thing that I suspect was written about was her beloved, deceased brother, BAC, and her own father (along w/ his current wife) being involved with operating a meth lab. Her dad went to prison, did he not? These are not normal everyday occurrences in average American households. It had to have a compelling impact upon Jessica.

Personally, after intensely studying this case since it occurred, I believe the journal could have been a catalyst for her death. Her story was not going to be told due to possibly protecting some from humiliation and permanent scorn. Untold family secrets would and did stop with her death. In a crime such as this, one must ask oneself: Who benefits from Jessica's death?


*This is my post, my words, thoughts and opinions. NO ONE has permission to take it to any other site without my permission that I will not grant.

 

[gngr~snap]

You do know that I totally understand where you are coming from with this theory. There have been some carefully planted stories about JC ripping off others, and rumors of that nature. Given the unusual amount of gas purchased, although not an excessive amount, she could have potentially been "running away".

Bear in mind, when Ali claimed that her car left M&Ms headed South, her car would have to go south onto Hwy 51 in order to avoid running into the folks, such as SRudd, who were gathered around the dumpster at M&Ms. It does not preclude her from heading south and taking an immediate right to drive along Carlisle to her own home (the residence in the TL) to give her mom the cigs or to access Shiloh Road. If Ali was inside the store working, how did he know which direction in which she left unless he was keeping a very watchful eye on her?

JCs car had only been recently been returned to her to drive. Reports are a bit conflicting; however, wasn't JCs car returned to JC by her dad about the last two weeks before her death? If that is true, and she left LH in October, where was JC keeping her journal/diary/story/book before her car was returned to her in late November

It is common therapy to have a patient write or journal their thoughts while in treatment centers, such as Leah's House, so that it may assist the patients face their life's realities and go forward with a new approach to handling reactions to stressful or unpleasant situations without self-harm.

This is why JC approached Ms Oliver. JMHO JC had already begun to write or journal her troubled past. By that, I mean, her past as being the dysfunctional issues in her immediate and intermingled family. One thing that I suspect was written about was her beloved, deceased brother, BAC, and her own father (along w/ his current wife) being involved with operating a meth lab. Her dad went to prison, did he not? These are not normal everyday occurrences in average American households. It had to have a compelling impact upon Jessica.

Personally, after intensely studying this case since it occurred, I believe the journal could have been a catalyst for her death. Her story was not going to be told due to possibly protecting some from humiliation and permanent scorn. Untold family secrets would and did stop with her death. In a crime such as this, one must ask oneself: Who benefits from Jessica's death?


*This is my post, my words, thoughts and opinions. NO ONE has permission to take it to any other site without my permission that I will not grant.

Didn't he say that LE came in right after the tie truck driver and reviewed the tape?
I could swear I saw Champion quoted that the CCTV from M&M was of no significance. THAT tells me they know where she went and who saw her after leaving the store. (&that no one seen in the tape was involved)

So? They must know who she was with when she left "the party", but no proof that he/she/they harmed her...

 

[gngr~snap]

Too bad they didn't have a nest cam set up across the road from the Herron Road CS. Some have infrared capability. It automatically switches on during nighttime hours of the day, to provide 24-hour coverage. LE could have staked out the CS after the fact with a setup like that in some of the trees across the road, to see who dropped by afterward. Perps have been known to revisit the scene of their crime. Of course, there would have been many, many innocent curiosity seekers in the weeks after the murder, too, making it difficult to sort the bad guy(s) out.

Ah ha! Ahh haa! By George Watson! Perhaps you have solved the mystery private footage of Jessica!

Seriously. A motion detection camera somewhere outside of that gate would not surprise me in the least.

Gate: have I mentioned 7:13?
Lisa hung up the phone at exactly 7:13.

Check out MATTHEW 7:13.
Is there a Matthew 8:13? Or 8:09?

Oh no.
I'm going to look! I wish I lived in the area. Is go up there one night and see if I could find the camera. I learned how to find the small pen light night vision cameras! Its so cool!

 

[MizStery]

*"the law cleaned her room completely. The only thing they didn't take was the Bible"

*http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/02/14/moms-last-words-jessica-chambers/23442951/

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Before,I get to my theory. I believe Champion gave us a big clue. The 'suspect' has done this same MO before. So,I suggest sleuthing anything that might suggest a similar MO in Courtland that mimics the staged scene at Herron Road.Not necessarya fire but an accident scene that results in the brutal death of victim. I think it's there as Champion said the suspect has done this before!

My Theory:

1) Lisa's cell phone(you know which 'one' it's the one between her texts and other missed communication w/Jessica.It's the lengthy talk in which Lisa claims took place between 6:48 to 7:13. It concluded (with the hyperbole I love you Moma') tender endearment from JC.The very same that Champion puts back in his official timeline as 'brief'(no explanation). This is all very 'smoky' to me.

This 'brief' acknowledgement is 'I' believe an exchange which pinged at JC's home.There is an excellent post on the thread (in which I will attempt to link)in which I think it is how LE was able to get the data they needed.If it is too late to edit into this post I will post separately and link it to this paragraph.

(My Theory)So Champion is just artfully saying yes there was a brief exchange between Lisa and JC he does not specify if it is on a cell or at their family home.

Champion is NOT budging on his official timeline~to me this signals his timeline will not substantiate any individual's attempt to use it to fabricate an alibi.

2) The ping that places JC at Herron Road at precisely 7:31 is a ping on the cell of the 'mystery' person that Champion says was on Herron with JC. So Champion does have an idea of the 'who' that was with her.

It's the 'movements or lack of movement during 6:30 to 7:30 intervel(is it inconclusive if she was home)is that what he needs to nail down?What makes me theorize this? Why else would investigators remove everything from Jessica's bedroom but exclude her bible)?Kinda sounds like a possible crime scene to me?

Another part of my theory is the number of altercations that JC is alleged to have been involved in. There have been numerous fights reported between JC and others BUT the only fights that involved arrests (please correct if this is wrong)were 'alleged' to have taken place at home.

To conclude and this is my point! The timeline is NOT going to be used by individuals to manipulate events to provide an alibi for the hour in question.

I have typed numerous post that shirted around this theory.

But,I just didn't have the guts to post my theory. They're all achived on my sticky app.

So I am ready to take my licks. But,be gentle. Please!

My theory only.
:cow: