MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #7

[bessie]

Agree to disagree and MOVE ON --->>>>>

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I spent a lot of time staring at the photos of where her car was found and it struck me where it was parked makes no sense. Why not pull straight into the gate on the road? If someone was to drive up to the gate from either direction, they would see the car parked next to the gate anyway. There appears to be plenty of room for 2 cars there. The sign on the gate doesn't make it seem like a homestead road. Do we know what is behind the gate and who owns the property (if so, I missed it)?

I am starting from the beginning and taking another look at things.

 

[southernyankee]

<snippity snip snip> The sign on the gate doesn't make it seem like a homestead road. Do we know what is behind the gate and who owns the property (if so, I missed it)?

I am starting from the beginning and taking another look at things.

I'm going to try + dig out my original source, but I recall reading that the property was a tree farm - like, Christmas tree farm or similar farm/nursery enterprise.

(Ok, found this http://www.commercialappeal.com/new...onds-in-popular-teens-burning-death_93345247:

Chambers was found lying near her burning Kia Rio sedan in the Courtland area by a passing motorist on Herron Road across from the Rowsey Tree Farm, about 8:15 p.m. Saturday.

- I feel like I had something better to go on before, but feeling drowsy at the moment and about to go to bed. It looks like it's actually talking about property across the street ? But in any case, I hope it helps a little.)

Re: starting from the beginning + looking again - good luck! I really think solid insight can be gleaned from doing this. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm going to try + dig out my original source, but I recall reading that the property was a tree farm - like, Christmas tree farm or similar farm/nursery enterprise.

Re: starting from the beginning + looking again - good luck! I really think solid insight can be gleaned from doing this. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Tree farm would fit with the area. It would probably be common knowledge what was behind the gate so people would know the owners were quite unlikely to be accessing the area at night...another reason why sitting in front of the gate makes more sense.

It may not change my initial thoughts on this case, but it seems no one is really getting anywhere. It can't hurt to start over to see if anything jumps out besides what people have gone rounds about already.

 

[FindHG]

I'm going to try + dig out my original source, but I recall reading that the property was a tree farm - like, Christmas tree farm or similar farm/nursery enterprise.

(Ok, found this http://www.commercialappeal.com/new...onds-in-popular-teens-burning-death_93345247:

Chambers was found lying near her burning Kia Rio sedan in the Courtland area by a passing motorist on Herron Road across from the Rowsey Tree Farm, about 8:15 p.m. Saturday.

- I feel like I had something better to go on before, but feeling drowsy at the moment and about to go to bed. It looks like it's actually talking about property across the street ? But in any case, I hope it helps a little.)

Re: starting from the beginning + looking again - good luck! I really think solid insight can be gleaned from doing this. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

I recall somebody looking up tree business up thread. There seemed to be two main ones in that area, then quiet a few more on the other side of 51.

Many old homesteads, farms, pastures, in areas I'm familiar with in the East have been sold to the tree growing business. I wonder if that's the case around there? IIRC, from sleuthing up thread, that area (North MI) is conducive to the nursery business, I think from the state agri info pages, posted early on up thread, while trying to figure out, why there.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Here is one that is due south of the place where her car was found:

Hippie Hollow Christmas Tree Farm

Entry type:
Christmas Tree Farms

Street Address:
518 Muggie Hill Road
Courtland, Mississippi 38620 (United States)

http://davesgarden.com/products/go/view/17672/#ixzz3OUzk4O8R

This shows on the map there is a road leading directly to it from Highway 6 in the vicinity where her car was found, but I cannot be more specific if it is that entrance.

The directions on Google maps indicate you can take Dummyline Rd. and Figg Rd. to reach the tree farm.

 

[flatfootjoe]

I spent a lot of time staring at the photos of where her car was found and it struck me where it was parked makes no sense. Why not pull straight into the gate on the road? If someone was to drive up to the gate from either direction, they would see the car parked next to the gate anyway. There appears to be plenty of room for 2 cars there. The sign on the gate doesn't make it seem like a homestead road. Do we know what is behind the gate and who owns the property (if so, I missed it)?

I am starting from the beginning and taking another look at things.

This bewildered me from the beginning until someone pointed it out to me directly. It was staged, to look like an accident had happened.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

This bewildered me from the beginning until someone pointed it out to me directly. It was staged, to look like an accident had happened.

I don't think so.

 

[flatfootjoe]

I don't think so.

and you're welcome to do so.

 

[MyBelle]

This bewildered me from the beginning until someone pointed it out to me directly. It was staged, to look like an accident had happened.

yes, it was staged. I think that is pretty obvious. And no way was it an accident.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Tree farm would fit with the area. It would probably be common knowledge what was behind the gate so people would know the owners were quite unlikely to be accessing the area at night...another reason why sitting in front of the gate makes more sense.

It may not change my initial thoughts on this case, but it seems no one is really getting anywhere. It can't hurt to start over to see if anything jumps out besides what people have gone rounds about already.

I don't believe a Christmas Farm was behind the gate. Perhaps across the street but, if so, that makes it irrelevant.

 

[MyBelle]

Here is one that is due south of the place where her car was found:

Hippie Hollow Christmas Tree Farm

Entry type:
Christmas Tree Farms

Street Address:
518 Muggie Hill Road
Courtland, Mississippi 38620 (United States)

http://davesgarden.com/products/go/view/17672/#ixzz3OUzk4O8R

This shows on the map there is a road leading directly to it from Highway 6 in the vicinity where her car was found, but I cannot be more specific if it is that entrance.

The directions on Google maps indicate you can take Dummyline Rd. and Figg Rd. to reach the tree farm.

Jessica's car was on Herron Rd. Quite a distance away.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

This was definitely not staged to look like an accident. They would have made certain the seats were up and they would never have put on the parking brake to make it remotely believable this was an accident where she lost control and drove up the incline into the tree. She would have been buckled into the upright seat, too.

I think it is important what the gate leads to and how often the road is accessed. It appears with the foliage on the road beyond the gate, it had been a few days at least so not a lot of traffic.

 

[flatfootjoe]

yes, it was staged. I think that is pretty obvious. And no way was it an accident.

JMO

You have to admit they did a piss poor job though. I mean it was so devoid of damage you'd have to be an idiot to assume it was accidental. I immediately just assumed the car had been just parked there, and wondered why when a perfectly good dirt path was next to it. When my wife and I were much younger, we used to "park" in a place just like that. We always parked on the path though, never the embankments.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Jessica's car was on Herron Rd. Quite a distance away.

Yes. Thank you. I finally got on Google Earth and drove it so I could see exactly where it was and see the trip to the area.

2352 Herron Road.

 

[MyBelle]

You have to admit they did a piss poor job though. I mean it was so devoid of damage you'd have to be an idiot to assume it was accidental. I immediately just assumed the car had been just parked there, and wondered why when a perfectly good dirt path was next to it. When my wife and I were much younger, we used to "park" in a place just like that. We always parked on the path though, never the embankments.

I will admit they did a piss poor job of staging it as an accident. I do believe the perps will be caught.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I will admit they did a piss poor job of staging it as an accident. I do believe the perps will be caught.

Probably because it wasn't staged as an accident so it wouldn't have been a very good job at all. Someone didn't care how the car was positioned or how it looked when they left it. No one bothered to make it look like something else happened.

 

[MyBelle]

Probably because it wasn't staged as an accident so it wouldn't have been a very good job at all. Someone didn't care how the car was positioned or how it looked when they left it. No one bothered to make it look like something else happened.

It was up toward a tree but had not impacted a tree= staged. Whomever killed Jessica didn't give a damn about anything but they did try to make it look like something it wasn't and are still are trying to do that.

JMO

 

[flatfootjoe]

Probably because it wasn't staged as an accident so it wouldn't have been a very good job at all. Someone didn't care how the car was positioned or how it looked when they left it. No one bothered to make it look like something else happened.

I'm not baiting, I'd like your opinion, if that car wasn't driven up the hill to appear to have run off the road, why wasn't it parked on the dirt path. That's obviously a maintenance road for a farm or a nursery. If you follow google earth back, the first thing you find is a maintenance shack. So on a path you know won't be used at night, why drive up the embankment? I wondered about this for days and couldn't find any rational reason.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm not baiting, I'd like your opinion, if that car wasn't driven up the hill to appear to have run off the road, why wasn't it parked on the dirt path. That's obviously a maintenance road for a farm or a nursery. If you follow google earth back, the first thing you find is a maintenance shack. So on a path you know won't be used at night, why drive up the embankment? I wondered about this for days and couldn't find any rational reason.

Chances are the car was parked to avoid detection from other car lights shining directly on it. The cover of darkness from the angle of where any traffic would come from at that time of night would be a logical conclusion.