Found Deceased MT - Rebekah Barsotti 33, & dog (fnd deceased), Town Pump, Superior, Mineral Co, 20 Jul 2021 *Reward

[Gina20]

Except this young man entered the river on May 15th during the peak spring runoff, much different conditions then July 20th when RB allegedly drowned.

In the spring of 2018, major flooding occurred on the Clark Fork, creating new log jams and snags. I'm wondering how far a person could be carried downstream from Alberton without getting caught up. Could they go as far as St. Regis? Things are always changing in a dynamic river system.

I'm also curious about fire rescue boats and their jurisdictions. I know St. Regis has a volunteer fire department with a boat, but how many jurisdictions would a person pass through between Alberton and St. Regis?

 

[Kagie1]

Thank you for the knowledge you provide. I would need to confer with AM to be able to reply to all of your information completely. I will note there are 2 videos that a search volunteer (knowledgeable with the river) conducted showing that if Cerberus and Rebekah entered the water in the girl saves dog scenario, the way the river was flowing that day and the day the video was made would have directed them back towards the river bank not down stream. I have attempted to save and share these videos but I have not been successful. AM has referred to the videos in a couple of her interviews. She may have referred to them in the BOC meeting also.

I understand and have read a couple of previous incidents of drowning victims being found/recovered at the gorge.

Hi Laurawlms... What transpires with objects on the surface (eddie currents, etc.) of moving water can be a lot different when submerged. When you add into the mix a potential panic swimming scenario where there's fighting against the current, things often are not where you might expect them to be. Think ocean rip currents.

Yes, there have been several drowning in this section of the river over the decades. Mostly by boaters/swimmers underestimating the river and/or have a little too much ETOH on board. There are hundreds of people that float the Alberton Gorge every year without mishap however. The Alberton is a popular day float because of its easy access off I-90 and has some really fun rapids if you've got a self-bailing raft or kayak. Typically the river has good flows into late summer whereas many of the other area whitewater floats are over by mid-June.

Few questions... Do the videos/pics show Rebekah at the beach and what she was wearing? Was she in a swimsuit or do we know if there's a swimsuit missing out of her wardrobe? If so, one piece or two? Color? Was she a good swimmer? What about footwear. Where any shoes/sandals on the beach with the rest of the personal items that where found? Would posting the vids from her phone on YouTube be appropriate? Please understand I'm not asking these questions just out of curiosity. Theses may have been previously answered but I didn't see any in my scan of the previous pages.

 

[Kagie1]

This is the kind of local river knowledge that's needed to find answers for Rebekah's family.

Do you know if local water rescue crews do drills in the winter months? I routinely see the local fire department rescue boats where I live, all winter long. They do ice rescue drills on bodies of water that are partially frozen. They use motorized pontoon boats.

I doubt if any of the local fire departments ever practice drills on the A-Gorge. Especially in the winter. With the exception of Triple Bridges, there are no access roads down to the river from the launch at Cyr bridge to Tarkio where there's a take out/fishing access. Very steep banks for the most part going up hundreds of feet from rivers edge in this area...

 

[Gina20]

I doubt if any of the local fire departments ever practice drills on the A-Gorge. Especially in the winter. With the exception of Triple Bridges, there are no access roads down to the river from the launch at Cyr bridge to Tarkio where there's a take out/fishing access. Very steep banks for the most part going up hundreds of feet from rivers edge in this area...

It's unlikely that anyone will spot anything in that area while the water is low, then.

 

[Steve McQueen]

https://nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/mt/...365&begin_date=2021-12-26&end_date=2022-01-02

There has been a lot said about the Clark Fork River in this thread and we are all appreciative of the posters who have shared their local knowledge. I am not local, however I know a little bit about river gauges. I have linked to the USGS river gauge data for the Clark Fork River at St. Regis for 2021. It should help clear up any misconceptions about depth and flow rates. Most dramatic is the surge of water during the spring thaw and runoff (May and early June). Data for July 20th clearly shows that by this date, the river had returned to it's lowest level and flow rate for the year. Obviously depths and flow rates at St. Regis will differ somewhat from those at the Alberton Rocks, but the overall pattern should be the same.

 

[Gina20]

Hi Laurawlms... What transpires with objects on the surface (eddie currents, etc.) of moving water can be a lot different when submerged. When you add into the mix a potential panic swimming scenario where there's fighting against the current, things often are not where you might expect them to be. Think ocean rip currents.

Yes, there have been several drowning in this section of the river over the decades. Mostly by boaters/swimmers underestimating the river and/or have a little too much ETOH on board. There are hundreds of people that float the Alberton Gorge every year without mishap however. The Alberton is a popular day float because of its easy access off I-90 and has some really fun rapids if you've got a self-bailing raft or kayak. Typically the river has good flows into late summer whereas many of the other area whitewater floats are over by mid-June.

Few questions... Do the videos/pics show Rebekah at the beach and what she was wearing? Was she in a swimsuit or do we know if there's a swimsuit missing out of her wardrobe? If so, one piece or two? Color? Was she a good swimmer? What about footwear. Where any shoes/sandals on the beach with the rest of the personal items that where found? Would posting the vids from her phone on YouTube be appropriate? Please understand I'm not asking these questions just out of curiosity. Theses may have been previously answered but I didn't see any in my scan of the previous pages.

Good question. If the video that is currently held by police shows only Cerberus and not Rebekah, this is different from both of them in the video.

Also, do we know if the date and time stamp was altered? Forensic analysis could reveal if it was.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Good question. If the video that is currently held by police shows only Cerberus and not Rebekah, this is different from both of them in the video.

Also, do we know if the date and time stamp was altered?Forensic analysis could reveal if it was.

I believe I read she was wearing shorts and a blue tank top, that info might be from the gas station video. Her phone has a lot of data, a lot of the timeline is already documented. Location pings, photos, text messages, will verify the timeline. I don't see someone having the ability or motive to plant info on the phone, everything would have to be changed, not just the date and time on one video. My brother designs power sources for computers, local sheriffs are unlikely to have the knowledge or access to the computers necessary to do that.

 

[Kagie1]

One of the reports (News Nation) mistakenly said upstream. Cerberus was found 10 miles down stream. Further down stream than LE expected. But even 10 river miles (downstream) with all the twists and turns of the river not to mention the sandbars and low level of the river this year makes the girl saves dog scenario suspicious.

As one can see on G-maps, from Rebekah's LKP (the beach) there's a bit of a jog to rivers right. The river then slows and widens and continues west for a couple miles or so (not very far) until it makes another jog to the right and crosses underneath I-90 and Cyr bridge. At Cyr there is a raft launch facility and just after this the river swings to the left and this is the beginning of the Alberton Gorge where the river narrows comparatively and the flow quickens. I was by all these locations on the 15th of July on my way back home to CDA from a week long float trip on the Middle Fork of the Salmon in Idaho. We stopped at the Cyr bridge launch and went down to the river to check it out. Although the river level was very low, there was still plenty of water for rafting/kayaking and certainly enough flow to carry a drowning victim down river although slowly.

Once entering the gorge, there are no sandbars and the only significant river turns in that section is at Triple Bridges in which there is a class III rapid as you go under the bridges. Here the river sweeps left under the bridges and then right. After this at certain water levels there are two class IV rapids. Boat Eater and Tumble weed. This can be a challenging area. Over the all the years I've been involved in SAR, I've witnessed my share of drowning recoveries in both lakes and rivers. Given the circumstances, I personally do not consider it improbable for a drowning victim to make it down to the area that Cerb was found.

It actually makes sense to me where he (Cerb) was found. I'm under the understanding that he was recovered a short distance up river from the Tarkio take out. If so, this is an area (post gorge per river flow) where the river widens up some and slows. More than once I've had to oar assist that section because of the slow flow and an upriver breeze working against me and my raft. It is here that should something or someone (drowned) enter the gorge and make it through unimpeded (not get caught in submerged rocks) that it/they would most likely be found.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

From the Katelynn Berry WS thread: " authorities are considering it both a criminal investigation and just a search for a missing person because if it becomes criminal, they don’t want to have missed anything."

Apparently not all 'missing' cases in MT are handled alike -- does it help at all if your mother is in the LE/political elite?

Katelyn Berry has been missing for a couple of weeks, so far, I don't see anything showing preferential treatment. If you read her mother's statements, there is no indication that the family is convinced it's criminal. Her cellphone, coat, wallet are in her apartment, friends' explanations are unclear. All missing person cases are not handled alike because they are not alike.

 

[Steve McQueen]

As one can see on G-maps, from Rebekah's LKP (the beach) there's a bit of a jog to rivers right. The river then slows and widens and continues west for a couple miles or so (not very far) until it makes another jog to the right and crosses underneath I-90 and Cyr bridge. At Cyr there is a raft launch facility and just after this the river swings to the left and this is the beginning of the Alberton Gorge where the river narrows comparatively and the flow quickens. I was by all these locations on the 15th of July on my way back home to CDA from a week long float trip on the Middle Fork of the Salmon in Idaho. We stopped at the Cyr bridge launch and went down to the river to check it out. Although the river level was very low, there was still plenty of water for rafting/kayaking and certainly enough flow to carry a drowning victim down river although slowly.

Once entering the gorge, there are no sandbars and the only significant river turns in that section is at Triple Bridges in which there is a class III rapid as you go under the bridges. Here the river sweeps left under the bridges and then right. After this at certain water levels there are two class IV rapids. Boat Eater and Tumble weed. This can be a challenging area. Over the all the years I've been involved in SAR, I've witnessed my share of drowning recoveries in both lakes and rivers. Given the circumstances, I personally do not consider it improbable for a drowning victim to make it down to the area that Cerb was found.

It actually makes sense to me where he (Cerb) was found. I'm under the understanding that he was recovered a short distance up river from the Tarkio take out. If so, this is an area (post gorge per river flow) where the river widens up some and slows. More than once I've had to oar assist that section because of the slow flow and an upriver breeze working against me and my raft. It is here that should something or someone (drowned) enter the gorge and make it through unimpeded (not get caught in submerged rocks) that it/they would most likely be found.

BBM

Thanks for the info. I would agree with you, if we assume Cerberus made it all the way to the gorge. Based on your own Google Maps description (bolded), that is a big assumption. Apparently the initial searchers agreed as they focused their efforts in the areas upstream of the gorge (IIRC from @laurawlms posts). I would also like your opinion as to why after 5 months they have yet to find RB in the river. I realize that there are many cases where drowning victims remain undiscovered for long periods of time. However, the Clark Fork, seems to be a popular destination for float trips and kayakers (it seems you have enjoyed it as well), especially in July and August. It seems to me someone would have seen something. Don't get me wrong, I would be one of the first to rejoice if RB were to be found in the river tomorrow. This family deserves closure. I'm trying not to be too argumentative, but I believe this case has been mishandled by LE from the very beginning. My apologies if I have wrongly assumed you have an opposing point of view. After all we are all here to support AM and LW and to help find RB. JMO

 

[Gina20]

From the Katelynn Berry WS thread: " authorities are considering it both a criminal investigation and just a search for a missing person because if it becomes criminal, they don’t want to have missed anything."

Apparently not all 'missing' cases in MT are handled alike -- does it help at all if your mother is in the LE/political elite?

What is it with the Town Pump and missing women? Two gone in less than six months.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

What is it with the Town Pump and missing women? Two gone in less than six months.

RB didn't disappear from the Town Pump, she left it alive and healthy and there is a video taken at the river to prove it. The other young lady is known to walk to the convenience store, nothing said she had been there on her last day seen nor did she disappear from there. I'm going to guess that a lot of people that die in Montana have been to a TownPump gas station or convenience store, that is not any reflection on the business.

 

[?!?]

What is it with the Town Pump and missing women? Two gone in less than six months.

Regardless of the facts of either case, I felt a chill as soon as I read that name on the KB thread - associating it with this case - thinking 'oh no, not again'....

 

[laurawlms]

Hi Laurawlms... What transpires with objects on the surface (eddie currents, etc.) of moving water can be a lot different when submerged. When you add into the mix a potential panic swimming scenario where there's fighting against the current, things often are not where you might expect them to be. Think ocean rip currents.

Yes, there have been several drowning in this section of the river over the decades. Mostly by boaters/swimmers underestimating the river and/or have a little too much ETOH on board. There are hundreds of people that float the Alberton Gorge every year without mishap however. The Alberton is a popular day float because of its easy access off I-90 and has some really fun rapids if you've got a self-bailing raft or kayak. Typically the river has good flows into late summer whereas many of the other area whitewater floats are over by mid-June.

Few questions... Do the videos/pics show Rebekah at the beach and what she was wearing? Was she in a swimsuit or do we know if there's a swimsuit missing out of her wardrobe? If so, one piece or two? Color? Was she a good swimmer? What about footwear. Where any shoes/sandals on the beach with the rest of the personal items that where found? Would posting the vids from her phone on YouTube be appropriate? Please understand I'm not asking these questions just out of curiosity. Theses may have been previously answered but I didn't see any in my scan of the previous pages.

Those are great questions. I haven't seen the phone video from July 20. AM has seen it. The video is still in LE custody. I think the video only captured Cerberus. The picture on NAMUS The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) of Rebekah and Cerberus is from July 20 and you can see the shirt that Rebekah was wearing along with ballcap and sunglasses. I don't believe she was wearing a bathing suit. I recall the Deputy that met us at the site said Rebekah was wearing flip flops. This came up when the Deputy tried to convince myself and AM the only way down to the area where Rebekah's personal items were found was to slide down this steep bank until reaching a level enough area to hike east the rest of the way. After I refused to go down that way he said there was the other way by driving down the rocky path to the east side of the climbing rock aka St. Johns Fishing Access (it was later suggested Rebekah walked down this way with Cerb based on steps recorded on her fitness app). I don't know if the shoes were recovered on the riverbank with her other personal items. The only video AM has from Rebekah's phone is the one from June that Rebekah shared with her (mom) previously. It was posted on the Find Rebekah Barsotti FB page. As far as the video from Town Pump, Rebekah's vehicle was visible but not Rebekah. Rebekah knew how to swim but she was not an excellent swimmer.

 

[Gina20]

Highway Serial Killings Initiative

Has Rebekah's case been submitted to ViCAP for review by the FBI? If not, why not?

 

[Laughing]

Highway Serial Killings Initiative

Has Rebekah's case been submitted to ViCAP for review by the FBI? If not, why not?

Has the FBI interviewed:

the missing woman's soon-to-be-ex

the person who cancelled her renter's insurance

the person that a court awarded her a Protection Order/No Contact

the person who now has a weapons violation


Wouldn't take long, those are all the same person.


jmho ymmv lrr

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Has the FBI interviewed:

the missing woman's soon-to-be-ex

the person who cancelled her renter's insurance

the person that a court awarded her a Protection Order/No Contact

the person who now has a weapons violation


Wouldn't take long, those are all the same person.


jmho ymmv lrr

If this is a real question, I didn't think the FBI was involved. As for an interview, the ex-husband has apparently exercised his constitutional rights and has an attorney.
I'd like to see the link for the weapons violation.

 

[laurawlms]

If this is a real question, I didn't think the FBI was involved. As for an interview, the ex-husband has apparently exercised his constitutional rights and has an attorney.
I'd like to see the link for the weapons violation.

Many family members have requested FBI involvement. They have to be invited by the Sheriff. The court documents may become public on the weapons violation. It was a public hearing. I can confirm there was a hearing on the weapons violation. @NoSpoonFeeding you should be able to request a copy of the court documents under FOIA.

 

[Kagie1]

BBM

Thanks for the info. I would agree with you, if we assume Cerberus made it all the way to the gorge. Based on your own Google Maps description (bolded), that is a big assumption. Apparently the initial searchers agreed as they focused their efforts in the areas upstream of the gorge (IIRC from @laurawlms posts). I would also like your opinion as to why after 5 months they have yet to find RB in the river. I realize that there are many cases where drowning victims remain undiscovered for long periods of time. However, the Clark Fork, seems to be a popular destination for float trips and kayakers (it seems you have enjoyed it as well), especially in July and August. It seems to me someone would have seen something. Don't get me wrong, I would be one of the first to rejoice if RB were to be found in the river tomorrow. This family deserves closure. I'm trying not to be too argumentative, but I believe this case has been mishandled by LE from the very beginning. My apologies if I have wrongly assumed you have an opposing point of view. After all we are all here to support AM and LW and to help find RB. JMO

I have been floating the Clark Fork river since the early 80's including the Alberton Gorge. Although I've lived my entire life in Idaho, this area is only a few hours from where I live. I also horse back ride and snowmobile in Mineral and Missoula counties and occasionally fly into Superior and Missoula in a Cessna 182 so I'm intimately aware of the river and surrounding area. To answer your question why she hasn't been found in the river after 5 months... Many of the rivers in this part of the country were created by glaciers or glacier runoff. Thus we have rivers here in the NW where there are sections of big, rough jagged boulders in and around the river. When I say big I mean some are truck size big. Not smooth cobble or river stone like you see in other parts of the country. These rocks create sieves in cracks and spaces between the rocks where people and other objects can get caught up. Additionally, there are deep dark pools here and there. A drowning victims submerged body is soft and pliable. Initially it will be slightly negatively buoyant and sink. It's not heavy like a rock but heavy enough to stay submerged except in very turbulent water. Because of the physiology of the body, it has a tendency to get hung up on things. The more placid the flow the more likely it's going to stay stuck until that flow changes. Usually and increase. In this case we can assume there hasn't been any moderate flow fluctuation since July as there are no dams upriver from this location and until the spring thaws come there won't be. There could be a thousand people float right over a drowning victim and they'd never see it. Unless of course it was really obvious which in most cases they are not. Try standing next to a fir tree that's 30 feet from a road in dark cloths and watch the cars go by. Maybe one driver in a couple dozen will look over and notice you there... Maybe

I previously posted about a body that had been on the river bank for weeks while rafter after rafter floated by and didn't notice. And this body wasn't even in the water. So imagine someone several feet underwater lodged under some big boulder. Please, I don't mean to sound unsympathetic to the family and friends of Rebekah in such details. My heart goes out to them for having to endure such a dreadful experience.

As for the mishandling by LE... Well I've yet to be on a search yet that was perfect and couldn't have been improved upon and I've been on dozens and dozens of searches. I don't know what has and hasn't been done via LE in this case as to have any judgement but I've worn the foot on that shoe before. I've been there when a family member has asked, "Why can't you find my loved one." They expect us to have all the answers when we don't. Sometimes things get assumed or presumed too early and in hindsight we look and go yes, that could have been handled better. Or we probably should have done this or not have done that. Personally, I believe every missing persons case should initially hold out for the potential of foul play and be handled accordingly until fully resolved but that's just me. Secure the scene and secure any potential evidence even if it appears to be an open and shut case. It's not over till it's over and sometimes that can take years and sometimes it continues into infinity.

From what I've been able to ascertain here and various other internet sources my hunch is she's in the river. I know there are some domestic considerations that are mixed in here. But from what I've gathered without talking specifically to those involved directly in the case facts basically appear that: 1) Rebekah met a caregiver at the Town Pump in Superior on the afternoon of July 20, 2021. 2) Rebekah drives to the sportsman access/rest stop along I-90 around mm 71 on her way back to Missoula. 3) Vids are taken and shared while playing with Cerb on the beach. 4) RP (reporting party) calls LE after finding Rebekah's articles on beach that same afternoon. 5) Montana State Patrol arrives which punts case to Mineral County (This is normal). 6) Deputy arrives and somewhere in here, her car is identified in the parking area. 7) Search for Rebekah and her dog begins. 8) Search includes ground teams, water teams, and air support. Search efforts focus in the area of the river between the town of Alberton and the area before Alberton Gorge (Cyr Bridge). 9) Cerb is found deceased in the river around 6 days later about 10 miles down river just above Tarkio. 10) Search continues unsuccessfully for Rebekah and is eventually called off. What am I missing?

 

[Steve McQueen]

I have been floating the Clark Fork river since the early 80's including the Alberton Gorge. Although I've lived my entire life in Idaho, this area is only a few hours from where I live. I also horse back ride and snowmobile in Mineral and Missoula counties and occasionally fly into Superior and Missoula in a Cessna 182 so I'm intimately aware of the river and surrounding area. To answer your question why she hasn't been found in the river after 5 months... Many of the rivers in this part of the country were created by glaciers or glacier runoff. Thus we have rivers here in the NW where there are sections of big, rough jagged boulders in and around the river. When I say big I mean some are truck size big. Not smooth cobble or river stone like you see in other parts of the country. These rocks create sieves in cracks and spaces between the rocks where people and other objects can get caught up. Additionally, there are deep dark pools here and there. A drowning victims submerged body is soft and pliable. Initially it will be slightly negatively buoyant and sink. It's not heavy like a rock but heavy enough to stay submerged except in very turbulent water. Because of the physiology of the body, it has a tendency to get hung up on things. The more placid the flow the more likely it's going to stay stuck until that flow changes. Usually and increase. In this case we can assume there hasn't been any moderate flow fluctuation since July as there are no dams upriver from this location and until the spring thaws come there won't be. There could be a thousand people float right over a drowning victim and they'd never see it. Unless of course it was really obvious which in most cases they are not. Try standing next to a fir tree that's 30 feet from a road in dark cloths and watch the cars go by. Maybe one driver in a couple dozen will look over and notice you there... Maybe

I previously posted about a body that had been on the river bank for weeks while rafter after rafter floated by and didn't notice. And this body wasn't even in the water. So imagine someone several feet underwater lodged under some big boulder. Please, I don't mean to sound unsympathetic to the family and friends of Rebekah in such details. My heart goes out to them for having to endure such a dreadful experience.

As for the mishandling by LE... Well I've yet to be on a search yet that was perfect and couldn't have been improved upon and I've been on dozens and dozens of searches. I don't know what has and hasn't been done via LE in this case as to have any judgement but I've worn the foot on that shoe before. I've been there when a family member has asked, "Why can't you find my loved one." They expect us to have all the answers when we don't. Sometimes things get assumed or presumed too early and in hindsight we look and go yes, that could have been handled better. Or we probably should have done this or not have done that. Personally, I believe every missing persons case should initially hold out for the potential of foul play and be handled accordingly until fully resolved but that's just me. Secure the scene and secure any potential evidence even if it appears to be an open and shut case. It's not over till it's over and sometimes that can take years and sometimes it continues into infinity.

From what I've been able to ascertain here and various other internet sources my hunch is she's in the river. I know there are some domestic considerations that are mixed in here. But from what I've gathered without talking specifically to those involved directly in the case facts basically appear



that: 1) Rebekah met a caregiver at the Town Pump in Superior on the afternoon of July 20, 2021. 2) Rebekah drives to the sportsman access/rest stop along I-90 around mm 71 on her way back to Missoula. 3) Vids are taken and shared while playing with Cerb on the beach. 4) RP (reporting party) calls LE after finding Rebekah's articles on beach that same afternoon. 5) Montana State Patrol arrives which punts case to Mineral County (This is normal). 6) Deputy arrives and somewhere in here, her car is identified in the parking area. 7) Search for Rebekah and her dog begins. 8) Search includes ground teams, water teams, and air support. Search efforts focus in the area of the river between the town of Alberton and the area before Alberton Gorge (Cyr Bridge). 9) Cerb is found deceased in the river around 6 days later about 10 miles down river just above Tarkio. 10) Search continues unsuccessfully for Rebekah and is eventually called off. What am I missing?

Quite a bit actually. I hope you will view the video of AM's meeting with the Mineral County Commissioners or read the transcript of that meeting in previous posts (pages 21 and 27) kindly provided by @Bit of hope. Here is a small portion of AM's presentation:

"We believe that from the onset of Rebekah’s missing there has been a lack of due diligence. The area was not thoroughly assessed at mile marker 72. When we asked if anybody knew the number of trucks or the number of vehicles at mile marker 72, they did not. When we asked if they knew the number of vehicles at St. John’s access site, they did not have that recorded and St. John’s access has multiple overgrown bushes. If you’ve been down there during this summer many of the vehicles you can’t see until you’re on top of them because the bushes are so overgrown. Sheriff Toth informed the family that all items at the scene were compromised, with the exception of Rebekah’s phone. Nothing has been submitted for forensics. The Mineral County Sheriff’s Office is now in possession of Rebekah’s laptop. This has never been accessed. There was an incomplete search of Rebekah’s vehicle. Meant at the time of discovery at mile marker 72, the Mineral county deputies did not find a gun in the car and when I asked Missoula about her gun on July 23rd they said that it had not been reported. I said "then you have another problem on your hands". So when they went to go get Rebekah’s car, they found the gun in the pocket of the driver’s store. So that would lead me to believe there was not a thorough investigation of the vehicle.

The vehicle itself has never had forensics performed on it and when the statement about Rebekah’s missing was released about Rebekah missing, there was no context about her being married or had being in a domestic abuse situation. That was completely left out of anything that was released to the media or the public. The charges were not acknowledged by LE, but those charges were filed here, in Mineral county."

Regarding land searches (from the CC meeting transcript): "On 7/25 Sergeant Funk informed myself and my sister Laura Williams that there were no tracking dogs on land or surrounding areas. The only dogs used were for the water in the riverbank, but they failed to look on land."

Regarding the RP: LE has refused to release the recording of the 911 call placed by the RB. A FOIA request by LW for details about the call was denied.

I don't know if RB is in the river. However, regarding Cerberus you have unintentionally made a case for why it is highly unlikely he would end up 10 miles downstream from the alleged accident. From your post:

"These rocks create sieves in cracks and spaces between the rocks where people and other objects can get caught up."

"Because of the physiology of the body, it has a tendency to get hung up on things."

I don't think you can discount the domestic violence situation, mainly because of the timing and the threats made by DB (paraphrasing - I will drown both you and your dog). The other thing that bothers me is that Sheriff Toth said DB is not a suspect and never will be. So much for an open minded investigation.

I hope @laurawlms weighs in as she can probably more politely and more eloquently explain why many of us on this thread feel LE has dropped the ball and that further investigation (hopefully DCI or FBI) should be undertaken. MOO