AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[cherryleaf]

I would just like confirmation that they looked in here. What even is that? Is it locked? (Yes I know a lot of time has passed.)

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No idea but same. Maybe a storage shed for yard tools? NG has such a beautiful home. You can tell just by the upkeep and landscaping and clear pool how much it meant to her. Everything looks so well manicured and maintained.

 

[Spectrix]

Wondered what are the lights in the distance? is it a waiting car., You can see some reflection of something in the road in the 1st photo that the fbi released. maybe front door was planned.

As far as I can tell, the lights belong to the house across the road from Nancy -

 

[LRinCA]

Random thought here which is all JMO/IMHO, etc.

If this was a kidnapping/ransom case, wouldn't it have behooved the perpetrator(s) to film a video of Nancy saying "Savannah/kids - please pay the ransom." Or hold up a newspaper with the date and a big note saying "please pay them what they want."

I don't think they've ever intended to show proof of life. Again, all my conjecture/opinion/musings.

Editing to add: and yes, I do understand the AI wrinkle in all of this and there is plenty of footage of her from The Today Show to work with on that front.

 

[submarine7]

Some men tattoo their wrist with a cross. When they extend their arm, the cross is placed as seen in copied pic. Looking at perp’s wrist, I’m wondering if the tat is a cross due to the spacing from top to mid-section?

I finally see it. There's something there that could be a tattoo

 

[nerosleuth]

I doubt it. The purpose of terrorist groups is to inflict maximum carnage, damage, and then make it known who was responsible to strike fear into the public, but also try to make a name for yourself to recruit other people to your cause. This has nothing of the sort. I don't believe terrorists are involved. Or cartels for that matter.

Here's what I am thinking.

I believe this is the work of a criminal gang. The problem here is what kind of criminal gang is involved in this type of activity.

Is this the work of a cyber criminal gang? Or is it the work of a ethnic criminal gang such as the MS-13?

 

[tlcya]

In my opinion this screen grab would have had to have happened before the longer video. Although we don't have actual video of him removing the door cam I do believe it happened shortly after he used the lantana to obscure his face. If that were true than the lantana man would already be in possession of the door cam. Also presumably why we don't have any images and or video of NG or the perp leaving the residence. All MOO

My thinking too, I'm trying to imagine why the perp would walk up with no backpack and no gun, see the camera ad then go put on the (stuffed full) backpack and weapon to return and disable the camera. IMO everything about this case is weird including this part.

 

[Wsimm]

Looks like utility/maintence access doors to me. jmo

Pool pump possibly?

 

[submarine7]

As far as I can tell, the lights belong to the house across the road from Nancy -

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It does seem strange that many of their lights are on at such a late hour. The lights stand out.

 

[VTHOMM]

White holster: Nah, colors look different on IR camera footage.
2 pairs gloves: a thicker glove under a nitrile glove almost removes all the risk of a print transfer through a thin/tight glove, not to mention if you ditch the outer gloves, you're not leaving a print or DNA inside.

Why do you think s/he turned around to grab the flowers/plant and used those to cover? To help with no DNA touch? Maybe that's why they fist-bumped the camera at first?

 

[Fascinated1]

I know experts are saying this person doesn’t seem professional or intelligent based on some of the things that were done (picking flowers, trying to hide from the camera, etc.). But if this person is truly that ‘stupid,’ then how have they managed to avoid being caught this long? IMO, they don’t seem as dumb as people are making them out to be, this could be far more organized and professional than assumed. Unless that’s exactly the point? …maybe they’re downplaying this person publicly to provoke a reaction or get them to make a mistake.

Someone posted earlier that they thought there was someone else inside while this guy was on the front porch. Interesting idea. Might explain his sauntering if he’s just there to see what can be seen through the camera (eg on NGs phone). Maybe some one said “go pick flowers” to see what he could hear through the door..idk that part is weird… but if he removes the camera at the end of the clip maybe they are making sure you can’t see anything before they take her out the door..and they confirm they have destroyed the camera and erase the images from her phone. Grasping at straws…. Remember the back door was supposedly opened-and there was supposedly force entry-maybe they entered in back but had to take her out the front door and needed to make sure the doorbell camera was destroyed.

 

[Inthedetails]

My thinking too, I'm trying to imagine why the perp would walk up with no backpack and no gun, see the camera ad then go put on the (stuffed full) backpack and weapon to return and disable the camera. IMO everything about this case is weird including this part.

Your post prompted a question for me - what he was looking for ANY house that he thought he could access. Something at her door made him think "this one." Then he went to get his gear (whatever that was for) before actually entering.

Maybe it wasn't targeted at all, but just he thought he could get in.

jmo

 

[Tillicum]

I would just like confirmation that they looked in here. What even is that? Is it locked? (Yes I know a lot of time has passed.)

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Generator? Trash?

 

[Sundog]

dbm

I feel like the media bungled this not the FBI.

Good point and distinction.

 

[killarney rose]

I sometimes wonder if we’re making this mystery more complicated than it ought to be, that we’re treating the perp as some sort of criminal mastermind and overlooking something so obvious because that would be “just too easy.” The clues may be staring us right in the face. I hope this crime doesn’t go cold. I wonder at what point, time wise, a case is considered to be heading in that direction. It would have been better if we hadn’t heard that a person was brought in. Now, we know that they truly don’t have a prime suspect. Had things gone quiet we would have thought that maybe they had someone under surveillance. Their suspect has now been let go.

Hate being a Debbie Downer, but those are my thoughts right now. I wonder if the family will end up hiring their own private investigator.

I agree . I know of several cases I’ve followed over the years that the suspects have gotten away with murder. They aren’t very bright at all, they just had luck and circumstances on their side.

 

[birdbox]

I hope they looked at her wifi router to see if his phone tried to sync. There woukd have been some type of data packets they might could recover.

 

[CandyKiss]

Great closeup on the sleeve. At that zoom level it almost looks like there's pilling on the sleeve, which makes me wonder if it's a fleece-type jacket versus a windbreaker.

Thank you but not my pic, I found that zoomed photo (see attached) I agree, it does look like fleece ~ interesting wrist seam, and it is bulkier than a windbreaker. https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoni...cy-guthries-front-door-released-live-updates/

 

[Inthedetails]

Pool pump possibly?

Sure. And/or HVAC, other utilities, yard equipment, etc.

 

[EyeCandy]

As far as I can tell, the lights belong to the house across the road from Nancy -

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[EJB123456]

No idea but same. Maybe a storage shed for yard tools? NG has such a beautiful home. You can tell just by the upkeep and landscaping and clear pool how much it meant to her. Everything looks so well manicured and maintained.

Ah yes, and maybe pool stuff? I'm familiar with desert swimming pools - so presumably it could have 50 lb containers of chlorine tablets in there. Just hoping they peeked inside.

 

[Fargo]

Given that up until yesterday, we didn't know there was a blood trail going beyond the initial spot on NG's porch that we had seen from the beginning, I would wonder what else has been known from the beginning that we don't know about yet.

Frankly, I'm not sure LE knows the blood trail goes beyond the initial spot on the porch. IMO