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Checking in every half hour or so, since I am working.
So difficult and heartrending to read here.....my thoughts are with Savannah and her siblings.
 
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I'll admit, I'm watching this thread off and on throughout the day but I've not seen anything about gloves found at the house. A few miles down the road, but not at the Guthrie's house. Which Guthrie house?
Yes, I read that they were found down the road.
 
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Exactly what I think! ^^^ some graphic info below.

I’ve been to southern AZ many times, and the desert is vast, with lots of tumbleweed, short shrubs, cacti, some tall8 ft, mostly around 4-5 ft tall. Very unforgivable land. I would think, it would be very easy to hide a body. The dryness and hot sun, shrinks the DB( sorry), to just bones in less than a month. Unrecognizable, maybe even DNA gone, not sure.

Since this is also an immigrant route, many passing die going through the hot desert. They say there are many bones( sorry, graphic). I think it’s already been in the 80s+ in AZ and it’s just Feb.

All just my opinion.
I've been wondering if any buzzards been seen hovering above the desert.
 
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NBC just announced FBI has raised reward to one hundred thousand!
 
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I've been looking but can't find anything. Has there been a massive ground search. I just look at that terrain and she could be there not too far away. This will be graphic so please stop reading if it will bother you.



How long would it take for decomp in this weather? Would a body smell for a long time?
I have wondered if it would work to drive around nearby remote areas with a cadaver dog in the car, window rolled down, and see if the dog alerts to any smell.
 
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  • The FBI today provided new identifying details about the suspect seen in video on the porch of Nancy Guthrie the morning she disappeared. Authorities are looking for a male, who is 5’9” to 5’10” tall, with an average build. He was wearing a black, 24-liter Ozark Trail Hiker Pack backpack, based on the footage, the FBI said.
  • Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, was dropped off at her home the night of Jan. 31 after spending time with her family and was reported missing about noon Feb. 1 after she didn't show up to watch a virtual church service with a friend.
  • A man was detained for questioning in the investigation earlier this week and released without charges after speaking with investigators, authorities said.
  • The Pima County Sheriff's Department said it has fielded thousands of calls since the FBI released security photos and videos from the morning Guthrie disappeared. The images showed a potential subject wearing gloves, a mask and a backpack who appeared to tamper with the camera at Guthrie’s front door.
  • Savannah Guthrie posted a montage of home movie footage of her mom on Instagram today. "Our lovely mom. We will never give up on her. Thank you for your prayers and hope," she wrote.
  • Nancy Guthrie live updates: FBI offers identifying details about man seen on Guthrie's porch
 
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Took them 2 days to release this info? We knew it was a Ozark backpack here as soon as the FBI released the video. Hope they have more details they just aren't releasing yet. They must have more Nest cam video they are still not putting out there.
They likely wanted to wait until they had a suspect description to go with it. They wanted to make sure the height was right, which may have been why they returned this morning.
 
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I've been wondering if any buzzards been seen hovering above the desert.
I trust (or hope) investigators are looking for that kind of activity.
 
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One thing that stood out to me was the eyelashes. The only guys I've seen who have those lashes that are so thick they give the appearance of eyeliner are Middle Eastern or Mediterranean. Not saying there aren't instances in other ethnicities but it's not a common trait (in my experience) for Anglos and Latinos.
I have thought Middle Eastern or Mediterranean from the video.
 
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Wow! They probably increased the reward now that they at least have some more slightly specific information. I wonder if the tent today was more photos + using brick count and other means to determine the suspect's height. I think someone mentioned on here, they may have even used a person and had a camera staged to re-enact what was captured on video so that they could compare height and size against what was shown on video.
I was looking to see if LE removed the door camera's frame.. I didn't notice it today. I saw the white door bell to the right of the frame ..but I was watching the news on tv.
 
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This height is atypical/an outlier for a central American Latino male. Average is 5'6 or so if I recall correctly. I've never really been of the mind that he appears native central American Latino anyway. I'm thinking Caucasian, Mediterranean, Middle Eastern, or perhaps non-native South American (Skewed more towards European descent).

JMO.
Hispanic people are considerably taller in Northern Mexico and the US than in central Mexico and points south. Latino men of 5' 9" or 10" and even up to 6' are not at all uncommon in Sonora, Chihuahua and the US border states.
 
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Doesn’t it seem reasonable for investigators to look at the street traffic cameras and see who was out at 1:30-3am? Who drove in that direction towards NG’s house and then see if any of those same vehicles later traveled in the direction away from NG’s area. Surely, there can’t be too many out at that time of the morning.
 
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I trust (or hope) investigators are looking for that kind of activity.
I was wondering about buzzards as well. I hope they send out drones . Ugh. Can't believe we are at the point where I am saying this.
 
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Thank you @MassGuy.

Unless LE can pinpoint that NG hand or face blood is from early AM 2/1, then as I've suggested ^, I wonder if that was blood from an everyday bleed for an 84 year old likely on an anti-coagulent (my suspicion per recent pics).

She could have had a bleed that started when she got out of a car in her driveway - maybe caught her hand on something... or maybe her return from her mailbox where she bumped her had.

Then in this scenario, when she stopped at the door to get in (get keys?), she would have dropped a concentration of blood, likely from her hand. IMO.

There is only one problem with that. Nancy's blood is not yet on the front porch in the doorbell nest camera footage taken at 2:12 a.m.
 
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I disagree. Just 5 miles south of Nancy's house is one of Tucson's poorest areas
My aunt lives 1.5 miles from NG’s home but is not in the same neighborhood.
 
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From the details of this post, they are confirming they are looking for a male.
[...]
The suspect is described as a male, approximately 5’9” - 5’10” tall, with an average build. In the video, he is wearing a black, 25-liter ‘Ozark Trail Hiker Pack’ backpack.
[...]

JMO

ETA - Ozark backpack is only $10.20 at Walmart
been thinking since the video dropped the backpack looked "new" (something about the crispness to it on the photos/videos when his back is turned towards the camera)

but at a price point of $10 it's probably a pretty popular item to track through walmart sales.
 
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