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ok now things are more than a little out of hand. I’m sure local LE know more than a federal agency with near unlimited funding 🤦‍♂️
I wouldn't want the wrath of SG on me. She is actually a powerful person. She can pressure from state and federal level.
 
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White tent at Guthrie's home used to create nighttime testing conditions, source says​

From CNN's Josh Campbell
A white tent erected by federal agents at the home of Nancy Guthrie on Thursday was part of a testing procedure to create nighttime conditions similar to the time of day the 84-year-old went missing, a law enforcement source familiar told CNN.

Once FBI specialists set up the tent to create a blackout environment, replica clothing and a backpack similar to what the suspect was believed to be wearing were examined through the lens of what a doorbell camera might see at night, the source said.

The source said examiners looked at the reflections of lighting against the items to ensure they were confident in their brand names.

Also on Thursday, FBI examiners used specialized equipment to analyze the front of the home where the suspect was seen on video in order to determine his height, resulting in the FBI assessing him to be 5’9” to 5’10” tall.

I’d think they’ve had at the very least 9 days to actually test at night time?
 
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Yeah, why ask for the bitcoin now when you can get twice that amount with the reward?🤔
Timing maybe? I would imagine the government payout would be pretty slow. It also comes with the risk that you may get charged with extortion, aiding and abetting, etc.

I can see someone finding an anonymous $60k today better than a government check for $100k less taxes in the distant future.
 
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I’d think they’ve had at the very least 9 days to actually test at night time?
They didn’t have the video that long. Then they had to acquire those items.
 
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White tent at Guthrie's home used to create nighttime testing conditions, source says​

From CNN's Josh Campbell
A white tent erected by federal agents at the home of Nancy Guthrie on Thursday was part of a testing procedure to create nighttime conditions similar to the time of day the 84-year-old went missing, a law enforcement source familiar told CNN.

Once FBI specialists set up the tent to create a blackout environment, replica clothing and a backpack similar to what the suspect was believed to be wearing were examined through the lens of what a doorbell camera might see at night, the source said.

The source said examiners looked at the reflections of lighting against the items to ensure they were confident in their brand names.

Also on Thursday, FBI examiners used specialized equipment to analyze the front of the home where the suspect was seen on video in order to determine his height, resulting in the FBI assessing him to be 5’9” to 5’10” tall.

LE hasn't had the videos long and seems to have been examining the videos closely. Glad LE were making sure of the details of the brand names and physical description of the suspect before posting. Also glad they didn't wait until the evening so they could get the descriptions out in the public as soon as possible today. MO
 
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People working in small dark spaces such as plumbers or electricians might use a small mouth flashlight. MO
If NG had the roof redone and an outdoor camera installed would an electrician perhaps be called in to do some re-wiring? Or perhaps she had some work done inside the home.
 
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This video (originally posted without the blurred face by nerdy_addict on X) has audio. After twin-backpack man has finished fiddling about, we hear some kind of mechanical sound, which continues as he walks away. Up to that point, it’s all quiet. It’s as if he activated some kind of machine. Any idea what that sound is? Has he tipped something from the backpack into some kind of machine? Am I missing an obvious, commonplace source of this noise? If he were trying to unlock the gate, why lift the backpack?
Sounded like he was trying to open the gate latch, possibly trying to jog it with a full heavy backpack. Walked away when he couldn't. Looks like a back gate to a yard, with multi car parking behind him.
Other than backpacks, the time, and being male, what links this person to NG?
 
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Why would the sheriff do that?
IMO, It's probably a combination of egos and stupidity. Each side wants full control, instead of working together they would rather hurt the investigation.
 
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Sounded like he was trying to open the gate latch, possibly trying to jog it with a full heavy backpack. Walked away when he couldn't. Looks like a back gate to a yard, with multi car parking behind him.
Other than backpacks, the time, and being male, what links this person to NG?
Nothing now – he has been cleared. I was asking about the sound you hear when he walks away.
 
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FBI is being blocked from key evidence by AZ Sheriff in NG's case? Confirmed source to Michael Ruiz. What is going on here?? JMO
I thought FBI trumps the county sheriff?! I really would like to know why this would be helpful to not release everything they have at this point. They dropped the ball!
 
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Ive felt sorry for him at times in this case but my sympathy has evaporated now - the sheriff needs to go.

He has been bloody useless from day 1 in this case and now it seems like he is hampering the investigation

I’m enraged so I only wonder how angry Savannah and the family will be with him
 
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People keep asking that but don't seem to realise that the benefit in a missing person is that they can't change their inheritance or out someone for a fraud or other crime being committed.
Bingo! Inheritance, fraud or to cover up another crime.
Occam’s razor.

At this time, I think it’s to cover up another crime, seems most likely. Remove person who might snitch (NG). I am very open to changing my mind.

JMO
 
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Who said hire anyone? The dimensions of lantana man are a good fit for SIL or DE
SIL is very tall based on the family holiday pic. Way taller than 5’9”. Who is DE?
 
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While this sounds bad, does sending the glove to the private lab constitute "blocking the FBI from access to key evidence"? The latter sounds more general. Or did he block their access to other evidence as well? I guess I'm saying that this isn't good, but the headline may reflect either hurt feelings at the FBI or the media outlet's desire for clicks.

JMO
 
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No ,it is for looking into dark recesses but one thing is for sure ,he was comfortable using a bite light
That's what I thought. He was comfortable with the bite light. He had used it before and chose it over a head light or flash light. So what professions or hobbies use this light? Yes something at night, or inside dark recesses. Not outdoor day light workers. Electricians, plumbers, etc.
 
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And fragile 🙄
Only the dumb ones. Men with higher intelligence usually do not engage in this type of behaviour - JMO
 
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I understood you were talking about the crypto 😅
I just wondered in the same context, SG has the money so why the reward isn't higher. Then figured that even if that would happen, the LE cannot handle the overwhelming amount of tips coming in.
Prob cannot even handle the ones coming in rn. - IMO
ok take 'reward' completely out of the equation. take LE out of the equation. the family has nothing to do with LE/FBI/reward money. eliminate all of the above.

why hasn't any member of the guthrie family tried to post an 'answer', plea, desperation attempt (i.e. money) to all of these (IMO, bogus) ransom requests. the obvious is that lawyers have advised against such 'answers'.

i'm thinking there's another answer...curious as to your thoughts.
 
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They didnt remove her body because it wasn't at the premises to be removed, lantana man was merely a perpetrator setting up the scene to look like the primary crime scene after she was harmed elsewhere.
I agree. I think someone may have driven their car there and opened the garage to bring her home at 10 pm ish. Someone else was sent to make it look like a kidnapping. And, if they took her home, why did she Uber there? I wouldn't let my 84-year-old mother Uber to my house, 5 miles away. Just saying. Couldn't they come and pick her up for dinner, etc., that night?
 
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