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Would roofers tend to use a small mouth flashlight? Or anyone associated with a roofing project? Or people installing outdoor roof cameras?
No.
 
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They are thinking rational...that the ransom letters are likely a scam... MOO.

Lots of people feel this is to get back at Samantha. What about getting back at someone else in the family?

Has anyone considered who may have benefitted from SG not covering the Olympics. She was scheduled to leave for Italy on February 2.
That was one of my first thoughts when the kidnapping happened. A rival or someone close to her who didn't think she should be the one to go to the games. Now though, it seems too far fetched.
 
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A lot being said about the possible 'bite light' in lantana mans mouth and so I wanted to post up a run down of the most likely people to have such a light handy.

Common user profiles include:
Pilots (especially general aviation and night flyers) — They use models like the Flight Gear Bite Light with white light for pre/post-flight checks and red light to preserve night vision in the cockpit.

Theater technicians, lighting crew, stagehands, and wardrobe personnel — In tech theater and backstage work, bite lights (often called "bitelites") are popular for climbing ladders, focusing lights, quick changes in dark wings, or when carrying gear.
Mechanics, auto technicians, or anyone working under vehicles/dashboards — Hands are occupied with tools, so mouth-held light helps see tight spaces.

Performers or quick-change artists (sometimes in drag, costume, or low-light creative work) — Soft, teeth-friendly versions exist for hands-free illumination during fast changes or detailed work.

Jewellers and Crafting Hobbyists — Anyone who works regularly with crafts that require both hands to be free during intricate work.

DIYers, electricians, plumbers, or home repair folks — Anyone who's ever held a regular flashlight in their mouth under a sink or in an attic ends up appreciating a purpose-built bite version.

Outdoor/night workers — Like some night fishing setups (though "bite light" there more often means bite indicators/alarms), or cavers/explorers who prefer mouth-held options over headlamps in tight spots.
 
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sorry to you american folks but the FBI are coming across as idiots here!

putting up a tent to recreate nightime conditions??.....i aint Einstein but if they just waited a few hours mother nature would have created "nightime conditions" for them!!

not for the first time i am left wondering just what kind of clowns are being employed to run this investigation?
Sure, let’s just wait a few hours instead of doing a very simple thing immediately. Someone on the internet might think we’re dumb for not wasting time…

JMO
 
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So you are basically hinting at AG and the SIL here. Don’t you think they could have found a dozen easier ways to take care of the situation than hire a third party to fake a scene?
Who said hire anyone? The dimensions of lantana man are a good fit for SIL or DE
 
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In 13 months, her home was only searched for on 1 day - Jan 18th - and it was searched 29 times. Seems quite significant for LE and this case. MOO

I got this and I got the same for 2025. Maybe I'm not doing right. I also searched her name. There is also someone with her name in AZ who is somewhat well-known. I found searches for the other NG in AZ.




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Why do you think the ransom notes are not real? Kidnapping for ransom is the most likely answer. And they covered up fully because it was only an abduction, not a murder. So they wouldn’t want her to recognize them and report them after she was released.
Didn't say the ransom notes aren't real? Just said they nabbed her alive perhaps because she knows/recognized one of them.

For now, going with extortion attempt turned kidnapping or SA attempt turned kidnapping. Guy at the door was #2 man, not the main man. MOO
 
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ok now things are more than a little out of hand. I’m sure local LE know more than a federal agency with near unlimited funding 🤦‍♂️
I wouldn't want the wrath of SG on me. She is actually a powerful person. She can pressure from state and federal level.
 
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White tent at Guthrie's home used to create nighttime testing conditions, source says​

From CNN's Josh Campbell
A white tent erected by federal agents at the home of Nancy Guthrie on Thursday was part of a testing procedure to create nighttime conditions similar to the time of day the 84-year-old went missing, a law enforcement source familiar told CNN.

Once FBI specialists set up the tent to create a blackout environment, replica clothing and a backpack similar to what the suspect was believed to be wearing were examined through the lens of what a doorbell camera might see at night, the source said.

The source said examiners looked at the reflections of lighting against the items to ensure they were confident in their brand names.

Also on Thursday, FBI examiners used specialized equipment to analyze the front of the home where the suspect was seen on video in order to determine his height, resulting in the FBI assessing him to be 5’9” to 5’10” tall.

I’d think they’ve had at the very least 9 days to actually test at night time?
 
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Yeah, why ask for the bitcoin now when you can get twice that amount with the reward?🤔
Timing maybe? I would imagine the government payout would be pretty slow. It also comes with the risk that you may get charged with extortion, aiding and abetting, etc.

I can see someone finding an anonymous $60k today better than a government check for $100k less taxes in the distant future.
 
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I’d think they’ve had at the very least 9 days to actually test at night time?
They didn’t have the video that long. Then they had to acquire those items.
 
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White tent at Guthrie's home used to create nighttime testing conditions, source says​

From CNN's Josh Campbell
A white tent erected by federal agents at the home of Nancy Guthrie on Thursday was part of a testing procedure to create nighttime conditions similar to the time of day the 84-year-old went missing, a law enforcement source familiar told CNN.

Once FBI specialists set up the tent to create a blackout environment, replica clothing and a backpack similar to what the suspect was believed to be wearing were examined through the lens of what a doorbell camera might see at night, the source said.

The source said examiners looked at the reflections of lighting against the items to ensure they were confident in their brand names.

Also on Thursday, FBI examiners used specialized equipment to analyze the front of the home where the suspect was seen on video in order to determine his height, resulting in the FBI assessing him to be 5’9” to 5’10” tall.

LE hasn't had the videos long and seems to have been examining the videos closely. Glad LE were making sure of the details of the brand names and physical description of the suspect before posting. Also glad they didn't wait until the evening so they could get the descriptions out in the public as soon as possible today. MO
 
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People working in small dark spaces such as plumbers or electricians might use a small mouth flashlight. MO
If NG had the roof redone and an outdoor camera installed would an electrician perhaps be called in to do some re-wiring? Or perhaps she had some work done inside the home.
 

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