Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[HanniBJeter]

sorry to you american folks but the FBI are coming across as idiots here!

Sorry to wherever you are…but we don’t care

 

[EJB123456]

I’ve been away and ain’t no way I’m reading all these pages.

Did you guys decide if this was part of the backpack?

Stills from the video posted on SG’s insta. I’ve compared these stills to the backpack posted by Phoenix FBI and can’t place it. Doesn’t quite match with that one hangy thing on the side.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022084453699350981

 

[Black eyed pea]

Why haven't LE/FBI put crime scene tape up across her driveway to keep random people from walking up there? Good grief.

 

[Mistermagoo]

If NG had the roof redone and an outdoor camera installed would an electrician perhaps be called in to do some re-wiring? Or perhaps she had some work done inside the home.

I believe that I read somewhere that there was electrical work done in SEPT 2025.

 

[SaharaLoba]

Wouldn't it be better from a research perspective to use actual night time to replicate night time?

I live in a similar dark sky environment and the night right now is actually wildly different than the night two weeks ago. (Due to the full moon switch to an almost new moon, which matters a lot when you don't have street lights, porch lights, etc, anywhere nearby.) That said, I doubt they replicated full moon light in their tent anyhow. But just using night sky right now would not accurately show how light and shadows worked two weeks ago.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Thanks so much ChicagoSleuth!

So I wonder if this was miscommunication about the gloves found NEAR her home, or if they have in fact found a glove AT Nancy's home?

Normally I'd think would the offender really be that silly to leave behind such a risky piece of evidence, but then look at Kohberger.

I guess there's hope if they did remove a glove at Nancy's home that there could be fingerprints somewhere too

If smart people can leave a glove behind so can dumb people.

Anybody who tries to cover up a door camera with sage brush is silly enough to leave important evidence at the crime scene and throw away evidence by the side of the road within a mile of the crime scene.

It wouldn't surprise me if that other glove by the side of the road is the same as the glove in the house.

 

[Cassie P]

I believe that I read somewhere that there was electrical work done in SEPT 2025.

If I were LE, I would be interviewing anyone who did work at the home trained in careers where they use a bite light. Or working in areas of the property with dark spots.

 

[cathathorse]

Things seem to be really muddled here. Was this glove that the Sheriff's sent off to Florida found just today?? Or was it found in the first day of the investigation? How did they miss a glove INSIDE the residence? Did they even process the scene at all? And hasn't the FBI been inside the house several times since?

And, most importantly, is the Florida lab just as quick as the FBI lab?

 

[GMG1999]

If smart people can leave a glove behind so can dumb people.

Anybody who tries to cover up a door camera with sage brush is silly enough to leave important evidence at the crime scene and throw away evidence by the side of the road within a mile of the crime scene.

It wouldn't surprise me if that other glove by the side of the road is the same as the glove in the house.

I am probably wrong on this, but if one or two people dressed up with that much covering, then just casually threw gloves out of the window of their drive out, my guess would be that NG was no longer alive at that point. In fact, if you are taking off gloves and disposing them on the side of the road, I would assume they had at that point, already done something with her.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“The FBI asked Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos for physical evidence in the case, including a glove and DNA from the home of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, to be processed at the FBI's national crime laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, but Nanos has insisted instead on using a private lab in Florida," the official said.

According to the source, the FBI will likely need to re-test the evidence themselves

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: FBI reveals description of suspect and backpack he was wearing

FBI releases suspect description in Nancy Guthrie case, ups reward to $100K as agents review more than 13,000 tips.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Donswife48]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022134608150900978

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022135057042079832

I had read a headline on Daily Mail yesterday about this, but it was one of their exclusive (behind paywall) and that usually means it's their opinion not fact. However, I had also read random posts that the Sheriff isn't very likeable, he withheld plane search the day she disappeared because he removed the pilot from that position and instead sent him on street patrol. Early missteps, delayed search plane response emerge in Savannah Guthrie’s mother disappearance

 

[GMG1999]

Things seem to be really muddled here. Was this glove that the Sheriff's sent off to Florida found just today?? Or was it found in the first day of the investigation? How did they miss a glove INSIDE the residence? Did they even process the scene at all? And hasn't the FBI been inside the house several times since?

And, most importantly, is the Florida lab just as quick as the FBI lab?

It seems like I remember the Idaho investigators sending the sheath to a lab in south Texas - am I remembering that right?

 

[SaraSmile]

Found them discussing it in a February 3rd article.

CBP deploying tracking dogs in search for Nancy Guthrie

Authorities believe Nancy Guthrie may have been forcibly removed from her home, where she was last seen Saturday evening.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Great idea, the more the better. Big help to find NG. Also, dogs could look for evidence.
They are separately trained to detect different scents, so different set of dogs, for different tasks.

JMO

 

[cathathorse]

What does it matter if both labs are just as good? Why is the FBI leaking to the news their grievances unless they too are lost and want to finger-point. Look personally? I think both teams have made some mistakes from what I can see...and there have been well publicized issues with the FBI as well recently. Maybe instead of finger-pointing they could have concentrated on doing a top to bottom thorough search on the residence and property when they arrived instead of also it seems missing things that should not have been overlooked (like the roof search and the removal of the other camera) or taking 2 weeks to get google to give them the footage they had. My POV is Local LE and the FIB are both wrong and have made mistakes and need to just concentrate on solving this or calling in some agents who can get somewhere, instead of making a case to the press for a failure. JMO

Yes and I also think it is interesting that the reporter didn't ask Pima County for an explanation. The FBI has more resources and more sources in the media so they will always win the PR game.

 

[Moonchime]

If I were hearing all of this and I were the family... I would hire private investigators.

Absolutely!!! No question about it.

 

[PacoElFlaco]

No, but experts have said it looks like a long barrel generic nylon pistol holster and that's a great example of one.

I always see these in the 5 dollar bin of gun stores collecting dust or yard sales and immediately noticed the mismatch. And I would not bet my life on a crappy holster like that with a semi in it. My kydex holsters custom fit the exact profile of my sidearm.

This holster detail, the $15 backpack, etc. Almost makes me think of what some edgy goofy teenager would whip together to cosplay a kidnapper.

Or a clever and savvy criminal who wants to use untraceable generic and secondhand gear to avoid identification if he is caught on camera. It's a lot harder to trace buyers of a walmart backpack and a cheap nylon holster than buyers of expensive pro-rated gear.

 

[CandyKiss]

I’ve been away and ain’t no way I’m reading all these pages.

Did you guys decide if this was part of the backpack?

Stills from the video posted on SG’s insta. I’ve compared these stills to the backpack posted by Phoenix FBI and can’t place it. Doesn’t quite match with that one hangy thing on the side.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022084453699350981

what the FBI is highlighting / questioning in the pics of backpack is 'frontal chest straps' to secure the pack. I had two of these backpacks, when my backpack was too heavy I'd use frontal straps to distribute the weight correctly.

EDIT TO ADD: just realized the longer strap that is highlighted still has the rubber band thats on it when you purchase it... maybe he didn't realize what this was for?

 

[Donswife48]

It seems like I remember the Idaho investigators sending the sheath to a lab in south Texas - am I remembering that right?

Fox news was discussing where the black gloves found along the road should be sent. One suggested Quantico but they all agreed a lab in Texas would be much quicker and would be able to process DNA evidence within a day. JMO

 

[Cassie P]

I live in a similar dark sky environment and the night right now is actually wildly different than the night two weeks ago. (Due to the full moon switch to an almost new moon, which matters a lot when you don't have street lights, porch lights, etc, anywhere nearby.) That said, I doubt they replicated full moon light in their tent anyhow. But just using night sky right now would not accurately show how light and shadows worked two weeks ago.

Good point, but it is going to be best to replicate exact conditions unless the tent method with high probability can replicate the degree of moonlight. To make sure they are getting the most accurate results. Though I understand there is a time element here and a life is at stake. So it is good enough for that.

But also I am thinking that if this goes to a jury trial, it is going to be a nightmare. There have been so many mistakes gathering evidence. Here is another one perhaps a defense attorney will attack and make fun of.

 

[Dontknow?]

Following crime for years I've seen plenty of police departments not wanting FBI assisting. The Roden case is one. The sherrif said when asked if he wanted FBI to assist, he said "hell no!" I did a search for "is quantico lab faster than private labs". Here's my answer via google.

Why do some law enforcement agencies utilize private crime scene labs?


The Role of Private Forensic DNA Labs

They employ highly trained scientists, invest in advanced equipment, and stay updated with the latest techniques and technologies. Private labs often have the resources and flexibility to expedite testing processes and deliver faster results than government labs.Mar 7, 2024

That could be why the sherrif's department sent them to FL. Besides FBI sending evidence to the FL lab too. Plus Pima Co. Sheriff's office has a contract with the lab that ends in March of 2026.

jmo