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dbm
 
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Is it possible I wonder if this guy used some kind of off road vehicle. I would think there's all kinds of paths and areas around that desert area that could be traversed.
 
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In 2026, not wanting to work with what passes for the FBI is reasonable. Think about it.

I can’t blame the sheriff for wanting independent evaluation of evidence.
Nope, I think it's idiotic and career suicide
 
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On NBC’s live updates it says this at 8:16:

Man seen in security video near gate of Tucson home is cleared in Guthrie disappearance, officials said​

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Tom Winter, Liz Kreutz, Andrew Blankstein and Michael Kosnar
Law enforcement officials have cleared a man who was seen near the gate of a Tucson home in a security video from the night Guthrie disappeared, according to two officials briefed on the matter.

The video, which was shared on the Neighborhood app and circulated online, shows a man in a gray hooded top, jeans and two backpacks near the gate of a home at 1:52 a.m. That home is 4.2 miles from Guthrie's home.

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department said it is aware of the video and is looking at all investigative leads. It did not say it's in any way connected to the Guthrie case.

Thank you, I was following the post in the article and it was taking me to the TMZ post of the other person detained.
 
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sorry to you american folks but the FBI are coming across as idiots here!
Sorry to wherever you are…but we don’t care 😂
 
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I’ve been away and ain’t no way I’m reading all these pages.

Did you guys decide if this was part of the backpack?

Stills from the video posted on SG’s insta. I’ve compared these stills to the backpack posted by Phoenix FBI and can’t place it. Doesn’t quite match with that one hangy thing on the side.
 

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Why haven't LE/FBI put crime scene tape up across her driveway to keep random people from walking up there? Good grief.
 
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If NG had the roof redone and an outdoor camera installed would an electrician perhaps be called in to do some re-wiring? Or perhaps she had some work done inside the home.
I believe that I read somewhere that there was electrical work done in SEPT 2025.
 
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Wouldn't it be better from a research perspective to use actual night time to replicate night time?
I live in a similar dark sky environment and the night right now is actually wildly different than the night two weeks ago. (Due to the full moon switch to an almost new moon, which matters a lot when you don't have street lights, porch lights, etc, anywhere nearby.) That said, I doubt they replicated full moon light in their tent anyhow. But just using night sky right now would not accurately show how light and shadows worked two weeks ago.
 
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Thanks so much ChicagoSleuth!

So I wonder if this was miscommunication about the gloves found NEAR her home, or if they have in fact found a glove AT Nancy's home?

Normally I'd think would the offender really be that silly to leave behind such a risky piece of evidence, but then look at Kohberger.

I guess there's hope if they did remove a glove at Nancy's home that there could be fingerprints somewhere too
If smart people can leave a glove behind so can dumb people.

Anybody who tries to cover up a door camera with sage brush is silly enough to leave important evidence at the crime scene and throw away evidence by the side of the road within a mile of the crime scene.

It wouldn't surprise me if that other glove by the side of the road is the same as the glove in the house.
 
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I believe that I read somewhere that there was electrical work done in SEPT 2025.
If I were LE, I would be interviewing anyone who did work at the home trained in careers where they use a bite light. Or working in areas of the property with dark spots.
 
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Things seem to be really muddled here. Was this glove that the Sheriff's sent off to Florida found just today?? Or was it found in the first day of the investigation? How did they miss a glove INSIDE the residence? Did they even process the scene at all? And hasn't the FBI been inside the house several times since?

And, most importantly, is the Florida lab just as quick as the FBI lab?
 
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If smart people can leave a glove behind so can dumb people.

Anybody who tries to cover up a door camera with sage brush is silly enough to leave important evidence at the crime scene and throw away evidence by the side of the road within a mile of the crime scene.

It wouldn't surprise me if that other glove by the side of the road is the same as the glove in the house.
I am probably wrong on this, but if one or two people dressed up with that much covering, then just casually threw gloves out of the window of their drive out, my guess would be that NG was no longer alive at that point. In fact, if you are taking off gloves and disposing them on the side of the road, I would assume they had at that point, already done something with her.
 
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“The FBI asked Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos for physical evidence in the case, including a glove and DNA from the home of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, to be processed at the FBI's national crime laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, but Nanos has insisted instead on using a private lab in Florida," the official said.

According to the source, the FBI will likely need to re-test the evidence themselves
 
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I had read a headline on Daily Mail yesterday about this, but it was one of their exclusive (behind paywall) and that usually means it's their opinion not fact. However, I had also read random posts that the Sheriff isn't very likeable, he withheld plane search the day she disappeared because he removed the pilot from that position and instead sent him on street patrol. Early missteps, delayed search plane response emerge in Savannah Guthrie’s mother disappearance
 
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Things seem to be really muddled here. Was this glove that the Sheriff's sent off to Florida found just today?? Or was it found in the first day of the investigation? How did they miss a glove INSIDE the residence? Did they even process the scene at all? And hasn't the FBI been inside the house several times since?

And, most importantly, is the Florida lab just as quick as the FBI lab?
It seems like I remember the Idaho investigators sending the sheath to a lab in south Texas - am I remembering that right?
 
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Found them discussing it in a February 3rd article.


Great idea, the more the better. Big help to find NG. Also, dogs could look for evidence.
They are separately trained to detect different scents, so different set of dogs, for different tasks.

JMO
 
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What does it matter if both labs are just as good? Why is the FBI leaking to the news their grievances unless they too are lost and want to finger-point. Look personally? I think both teams have made some mistakes from what I can see...and there have been well publicized issues with the FBI as well recently. Maybe instead of finger-pointing they could have concentrated on doing a top to bottom thorough search on the residence and property when they arrived instead of also it seems missing things that should not have been overlooked (like the roof search and the removal of the other camera) or taking 2 weeks to get google to give them the footage they had. My POV is Local LE and the FIB are both wrong and have made mistakes and need to just concentrate on solving this or calling in some agents who can get somewhere, instead of making a case to the press for a failure. JMO
Yes and I also think it is interesting that the reporter didn't ask Pima County for an explanation. The FBI has more resources and more sources in the media so they will always win the PR game.
 

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