Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[HanniBJeter]

Trump never forgets....

how many times do you need to be told?….

 

[LRinCA]

In 2020! That was almost six years ago!!!

I was responding to what someone else mentioned regarding an exchange.

 

[SUNchips]

Now, that makes a lot of sense. Most households in the area have an ATV, it is a popular outdoor activity in the area.

Not really, I only can think of one person I know living in Tucson who owns an ATV

 

[PCHS]

Is that the blue Subaru crosstrek they are referring to?

NG owned a blue Subaru ...I think they said they were looking for a truck not a blue subaru

 

[simlyme]

I have done searches on the name GUTHRIE on X/Twitter and have been dismayed by what I've seen. In the so-called old days of Twitter you could search a name or word and then ask for results from verified accounts. Back then the verified accounts were mostly all news accounts. Unfortunately, everything comes up in a search and you can't drill down on actual news versus what I can only personify as hate posts. Usually I just exit the search because it's not worth the agita.

MOO/JMO

The very sad part is that it's there and when you read it ,it's a WHAT? moment.

 

[britinsussex]

Woefully behind, but I did have a comment. I feel very differently about the FBI and its abilities now than I did in the not so distant past. Perhaps, there was actual reasons behind these decisions, and perhaps, all the negative “leaks” about the Sheriff are being promoted by an overly self-promoting and not so trustworthy current FBI

Just as a side note. My uncle is a retired special agent. He often speaks about how the agency became politically weaponised and how this affected the trust of the citizens it serves. jmoo

 

[Friday Fan]

I'm too far behind to contribute much, but there's a subreddit for FlightRadar24 that usually has answers to weird military flight paths. Probably not an approved source, per se, but they seem to know what's going on/what's otherwise unexplained by normal military exercises.

MOO

I'm pretty sure it's border patrol because they had the same flight path last night. (Don't know what they will find at the top of a mountain, but who knows? Maybe there are secret hideaways??? )

US Army helicopters are very obviously doing border surveillance in Texas. Their flightpaths are competely parallel to the border.

 

[nightowl2728]

The military helicopters could be training. I live a few hours from Fort Rucker and close to Fort Benning. Fort Rucker almost always has training helicopters in the area. Just my opinion based on life experience

I'm too far behind to contribute much, but there's a subreddit for FlightRadar24 that usually has answers to weird military flight paths. Probably not an approved source, per se, but they seem to know what's going on/what's otherwise unexplained by normal military exercises.

MOO

Thanks I should check that out. These didn't take off from a base but rather a public airpark just northwest of Tucson and all were doing similar circling mountains/old mines/canyons/playas around Tucson, not near the border or another base. My hope is that they were searching for Nancy! But not really any way of knowing.

 

[PaulaDC]

If the found glove is the perp's, looks likely it was tossed out from the passenger side. Maybe someone else was driving?

I toss my banana peel out the passenger side when I drive because the woods are on that side. Just saying.....

 

[Desperate Howswif Detec]

Genetic genealogy is a very slow process. Can take months. Or longer.

If they allowed those of us Experienced genetic genealogist’s to volunteer , after they uploaded the DNA we all could make backwards family trees and come up with 1-10 possible suspects to go get their thrown away cups, napkins etc. I do this for adoptees who want to know who their birth parents are and I have not had one I did not solve. It’s taken me anywhere from a couple days to a month or two with only ONE case talking me 10 months. But i eventually got it! I’ve offered to volunteer my services for cases such as these and for cold cases but no takers! Go figure! Btw we are a first responder family and know how private these searches need to be, yet no department has taken our offer!

 

[Friday Fan]

Thanks I should check that out. These didn't take off from a base but rather a public airpark just northwest of Tucson and all were doing similar what looks like "searches" circling mountains/old mines/canyons/playas around Tucson, not near the border or another base. My hope is that they were searching for Nancy! But not really any way of knowing.

BP is taking off from public airports in South Texas and using army helicpoters.

I don't think BP are searching for Nancy in those mountains.

I asked that question the other night. Her body would not radiate enough heat.
Day would be better for searching for Nancy because they would rely on visual of someone who isn't very mobile.

BP does alot of night time stuff because that's when there is more movement and activity.

 

[auburnmomof2]

Anyone else just feeling extra on edge because of this case? I live in a neighborhood where the houses are so close I can literally hear the kids playing inside the house nextdoor from inside my house. Safe street, safe neighborhood. But my dog just started barking from inside and it literally made me feel more panicked than usual. It was our neighborhood suburban raccoons wandering from there nest in the tree line lol.
I can't even imagine how Nancy's family and community feel though Praying for safety for each of you and for the hearts of criminals to be softened and for people to genuinely value the lives of others.
In the midst of all the sleuthing, we must never lose sight of the humanity of everyone.

 

[browneyes]

I’m heading to bed, I hope to wake up to positive news on this case, Hope you are resting peacefully Nancy.and family.

 

[nightowl2728]

I don't think they are searching for Nancy.

I asked that question the other night. Her body would not radiate enough heat.
Day would be better for searching for Nancy because they would rely on visual.

BP does alot of night time stuff because that's when there is more movement and activity.

Yes - to be clear, I'm not sure if they would be looking for a body at this point either. Maybe moreso a vehicle or some sort of hideout? The locations they were circling don't look easily accessible by car for the most part. And these flights weren't near the border at all, as I mentioned. I understand that US military does border monitoring from the air. This is just my opinion of course, and hope, given the federal government has offered its assistance, but neither of us can know for sure at least as far as what I can tell

EDIT: I'm curious if anyone has heard of any LE doing air search? Perhaps that would be the jurisdiction of another arm of LE? If they're doing that at all.

 

[subaw0067]

I don’t think the Army helicopters are, have been, or will be significant to this case. There are literally hundreds of military bases in the country and training happens on a near daily basis. IMO.

If they allowed those of us Experienced genetic genealogist’s to volunteer , after they uploaded the DNA we all could make backwards family trees and come up with 1-10 possible suspects to go get their thrown away cups, napkins etc. I do this for adoptees who want to know who their birth parents are and I have not had one I did not solve. It’s taken me anywhere from a couple days to a month or two with only ONE case talking me 10 months. But i eventually got it! I’ve offered to volunteer my services for cases such as these and for cold cases but no takers! Go figure! Btw we are a first responder family and know how private these searches need to be, yet no department has taken our offer!

because it is a liability to have unvetted civilians handling sensitive information

 

[moxiemom]

how many times do you need to be told?….

I edited it...

 

[Desperate Howswif Detec]

This is probably the weirdest case I've seen. And there's been some weird ones here on Websleuths and elsewhere!! Was it just today that LE was asking neighbors for camera footage?? I'd have thought they'd do that right away.

Saw this in a random comment on FB and I kinda feel the same!! "I don't know how much more of this I can take. I'm about ready to pack a bag, fill the car up with gas, and go look for (NG) myself." I can't say it better myself, and not that I'd be any more help especially at this point. But this has been just strange. Trying to get back to brass tacks here:

Just some thoughts of mine:
- I don't necessarily rule out family, but I do not believe this is related at all to an inheritance or money to the family at all. A body or certain death is pretty necessary for a quick inheritance.
- Possibly an accident occurred and body was removed to cover up. If this is the case, the accident would have had to stem from an argument. IMO. Because otherwise, why wouldn't someone just call the emergency! So this is still possible IMO
- Plus, the footage/pictures released clearly show a masked individual tampering with the camera at whatever the time stamp was. If the above point is true, some family member masked themselves up and returned to the scene of the argument-caused accident to remove evidence to cover it up.

I do try to have some faith in LE. I assume if they have the footage of the masked individual then they have some footage of NG arriving home earlier in the evening. If they didn't have that footage or some solid proof, then the family members would have already been detained IMO. It's ridiculous to think LE would let them go without that kind of basic (IMO) information. Same with SG not being involved, same with the brother not being involved. If LE didn't have solid alibis for these people, they would have been detained. It's really ridiculous to think otherwise. So, given these thoughts, I believe NG made it home just fine at least. The attack or removal occurred later.

So let's just say the person(s) who drove her home and maybe walked her inside (although LE would have some record of this, no?), and some argument then accident occurred, person panicked. They left the house pretending all was well, went about their business, then middle of the night dressed up and came back to the house to remove the body because they believed the body contained some kind of evidence of their involvement in the crime. Certainly possible. I think unlikely. Unless both of the parties to the earlier evening events were involved, one or the other would be questioning the other's activities by now, right?

I personally don't think family is involved, at least not directly or even willingly. I also don't think most of the ransom demands are related to her disappearance. JMO

Another thought:
- Someone fascinated or even angry with SG...but why target the mother? Unless the notes (assuming they are legit) say something like "SG you are awful ... blah..." then how would anyone even know this was the point. IMO, if a perpetrator is trying to hurt someone by using a surrogate, they would want the target to know. Right?
- One of the other siblings mentioned something to someone...about money/valuables? Even if the siblings weren't involved, who did they talk to enough for that person to think there was some benefit in doing this?

To me, it's clear this was a planned attack or robbery, but I don't think kidnapping/murder was the initial goal. The suspect we see on footage took great care to hide his/her identity and disable the cameras. Was NG known to keep cash or other valuables in her house? Was her house a target in other ways, extra large or especially luxurious than the others in the neighborhood, that would attract organized robbers? I just kind of think that her home and maybe her person (with a famous daughter who I'm sure people assume is very wealthy) was targeted for a robbery. Something went wrong, and those individuals (I do believe more than one) took the body to hide evidence. Perhaps one of the perpetrators assaulted her in a way that would have caused her to have dna on her and they were savvy enough to realize it, and thought it was easier to take the body.

In any case, while I do hope that by some miracle NG is still alive, I find it unlikely at this point.

All JMO. I welcome any corrections to my line of thinking, if based on falsehoods!

 

[MassGuy]

Genetic genealogy is a very slow process. Can take months. Or longer.

Yup, it does vary though. It depends on how close the matches are and how complex the family tree is.

In the Kohberger case it took less than a month.

 

[Friday Fan]

Yes - to be clear, I'm not sure if they would be looking for a body at this point either. Maybe moreso a vehicle or some sort of hideout? And these flights weren't near the border at all, as I mentioned. I understand that US military does border monitoring from the air. This is just my opinion of course, and hope, given the federal government has offered its assistance, but neither of us can know for sure at least as far as what I can tell

If looking for Nancy, they would be flying in the day.

Who knows why BP is searching the top of the mountains? It's within their range, which is 100 miles.

Maybe there is a history of stuff that goes on up there? Maybe there are stash house/mansions or something?? I have no idea...

 

[KonaHonu]

I don’t think the Army helicopters are, have been, or will be significant to this case. There are literally hundreds of military bases in the country and training happens on a near daily basis. IMO.

because it is a liability to have unvetted civilians handling sensitive information

I agree. And Ft. Huachuca is not far from where these army helicopters are being seen. I think it's just routine training.