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And also, why the blood doesn’t continue. There’s no trail. In either direction. It’s literally just in that one spot.
Seems likely that once the nest cam was taken away, a car pulled up to the front entrance. JMO
 
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In amongst all these photos and images of the kidnapper and others, I just spent a moment reflecting on this lovely photo of Nancy. She did not deserve whatever has happened to her. There's a real vulnerability and reminder of her age in this photo, yet still a beautiful vibrant woman. I hope she is found soon

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Is that a bandage on her arm? I wonder if her skin is similar to my 82-year-old dad's skin. He gets scratches and terrible bruises just by lightly bumping into something. Sometimes the "bumping" is so minor that he doesn't even remember what caused the injury, even though he's sharp as a tack. :(

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Megyn Kelly is reporting that LE is asking neighbors of AG's about a phone.

 
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In 2020! That was almost six years ago!!!
It’s not beyond a disgruntled, politically motivated person to hold a resentment for a long time.
Perhaps, a person wanted to “ silence, or cause Savannah to pause” regarding political news.
They attacked her Mom, instead of directly attacking Savannah ( too much security?).

I’m still thinking it’s local people ( disgruntled former employee, robbery gone bad, drug crime, target old lady with no connection except she might have $).

I watched STS last night, Joel interviewed Gregg McCrary, retired FBI profiler, excellent!
Then Joel had on 3 regulars, also very good insight. What I took away is “local” crime.
It turns out Tucson has over a Million people. Surrounding areas add even more.

Need more info to pick which 5’9”-5’10” man did it!

JMO
 
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Yes, the living 15 minutes away negates the neighbor aspect.
Exactly, so why is he there! My spider senses are tingling on this one
 
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Another interview with Jason here, he had a ‘premonition’ that it is the SIL. This is so suspicious to me.

This guy is so gross - imo. This family is going through so much right now and the topper is AG/SIL reputation is being horribly damaged and the longer it goes on the more long term impact it could have. To me with what has come out the data points away from them and I think if they can't find NG they need to minimally do something to ensure that clarity is public so their lives aren't further ruined. JMO
 
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Take off your glasses Jason. Let’s have a look at those eyes. Inserting yourself into the investigation? Kidding mostly.
And the shoes...also kidding mostly.
 
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There is no current evidence that TC is involved ... at all.

Ashley Banfield stating it is not evidence.

Do I find it strange they keep going back to AG/TC's house? YES, but again, no evidence at this time that TC is even remotely involved.
 
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Megyn Kelly is reporting that LE is asking neighbors of AG's about a phone.


It could also be an interesting method of questioning a neighbor without them feeling like they are being questioned...MOO
 
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Megyn Kelly is reporting that LE is asking neighbors of AG's about a phone.

Personally I don’t believe AG and TC are involved at this point. It just seems highly unlikely with the evidence we’ve seen.

With that said I do 100 percent believe that investigators believe one or both of them might be involved.
 
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I suspect most who point fingers at SIL are suggesting that he came first (to drop off Nancy) and probably had no reason to use the front door. (For example, the back door was found open.)

Then must have left NG incapacitated (on her bed perhaps) before driving back to his house where they had their game night.

Then quite some time passed until the second perp (hired by SIL) arrived to remove poor incapacitated NG from her home. JMO

SIL's & Annie's property was searched on Feb. 7.
I get that those are the type of theories. IMO absent additional information, the reasoning and motives being speculated about are the less logical, likely conclusion, given what we now know. JMO
 
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I am still thinking about NG being confronted by that masked figure in her bed having been woken up, it is horrifying to think of what she must have gone through, and the terror it must have instilled in her children when they showed them the video to see if they recognized the masked man, it certainly sent shivers up my spine and made me check my doors were locked securely at night
 
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When LE went to NG's house when she was reported missing, LE immediately knew it was a crime scene and closed off the property for an investigation of a crime. MOO
I didn't see that happen. Maybe the inside only? IDK
 
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He does kind of look like the guy bending over from the back to the guy at NG house video
Interesting clue, local. 6 miles away is pretty far. The 2 backpack man was in s Tucson, 5+ miles away. I would like to see a Tucson map of all these incidents from Jan. I got the impression that Tucson has a lot of crime, mainly on the s side.

JMO
 
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This guy is so gross - imo. This family is going through so much right now and the topper is AG/SIL reputation is being horribly damaged and the longer it goes on the more long term impact it could have. To me with what has come out the data points away from them and I think if they can't find NG they need to minimally do something to ensure that clarity is public so their lives aren't further ruined. JMO

Agreed, incredibly irresponsible.
 
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Looking at how some of this investigation has been conducted ,I would say that from day I the Sheriff was wilfully neglectful in how he failed to collect evidence and seal and guard Nancy's house.
This photo says everything. The door mat has not even been removed for testing .


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It also took them a long time to remove the Nest plate for testing. I understand they might not have been aware of what the camera captured, but it doesn’t take a genius to conclude that whoever perpetrated the crime also removed the camera. Footage wasn’t needed for that deduction, and still isn’t.

It’s almost like this was crime scene processing from decades ago. On second thought, that’s an insult to previous generations of investigators.

Some decades-old cases have been solved with FGG because very forward-thinking investigators immediately bagged items that A) had no obvious connection, and B) couldn’t even be tested with then-current tech. But lo and behold, many years later, their proactive police work caught the killer.

Not seeing that winning attention to detail here, and “golden hour” is long past.
 
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Personally I don’t believe AG and TC are involved at this point. It just seems highly unlikely with the evidence we’ve seen.

With that said I do 100 percent believe that investigators believe one or both of them might be involved.
And I think given that they appear to be confused and lost they are reverting back to the defaults of immediate family and last seen with b/c typically people aren't kidnapped from their home, they are harmed by someone known to them or last seen with and evidence is found or a confession or accusation is made to substantiate that, combined with no other exculpatory evidence. In this situation there IS additional information that could point away from them but I don't think they know what to do with it so they just revert back to what they usually find to be true. JMO. I also think the continuous increase of reward $ could show that they really are more at a loss then they are on to something solid..IMO
 
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Why? If this is a well regarded lab?
Nanos got started 2 days before the FBI, which is not long at all. But instead of “ working together”, there’s still an ego struggle almost 2 weeks later.

JMO
 
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Is that a bandage on her arm? I wonder if her skin is similar to my 82-year-old dad's skin. He gets scratches and terrible bruises just by lightly bumping into something. Sometimes the "bumping" is so minor that he doesn't even remember what caused the injury, even though he's sharp as a tack. :(

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Yes, I've seen several other photos of Nancy's arm black/blue with a bandage on it. She did have a pacemaker (heart issues) so she could have been on blood thinners which causes bruising/bleeding easily.

MOO
 
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