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I think everyone needs to move from Tucson! What the heck is going on there? Random people wandering over property in the middle of the night, it seems to happen often based on these videos. Same guy, same group?

I don’t think I could live like that.
Sadly many cities are like that. I live in a large western US city and regularly have people on my cams doing all sorts of things to just sitting on my porch smoking to relieving themselves in my yard. I live in a relatively wealthy neighborhood. Not ritzy but very comfortable.
 
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Take off your glasses Jason. Let’s have a look at those eyes. Inserting yourself into the investigation? Kidding mostly.
...and about that tattoo....
 
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At this stage there are still pros and cons for any theory to be legit with the exception of Alien abduction.
 
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24% is the number for violent crimes in general, but when you look at stranger abductions, the percentage is much lower (5%). when it comes to abductions, it’s much more common to see women kidnap their own children when they no longer have (full) custody.


personally, after seeing the way he moves, there is no doubt in my mind that this is a man
dbm
 
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Perhaps she is all those things. However, LE did not officially release a sketch of the suspect. They have information about the suspect that this artist does not have. Her sketch will no doubt gain traction and very possibly in the wrong direction. Needed tips might not come in because the suspect could not look like this at all. She got ahead of her skis. IMO
I think so, yes.
 
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A delivery driver delivered pizzas to the door earlier in the week. I guess the reporters had called them in. WTAH?
A woman ,who has been identified,ordered the pizza as a kind gesture for one of the people reporting live. I saw it live as it happened .
 
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By "down the road", they mean 6.6 miles. And he didn't break in. He was on their porch but I don't see that he attempted to enter their home.
Yes, thank you! I want to edit my post to delete the incorrect info because it could definitely cause confusion but I can’t for some reason so hopefully people see your response. I reported my post though so hopefully a mod sees that and deletes it!
 
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This is an article from the Daily Beast, if true, is very concerning~~~
the article is behind a paywall
There are 2 sides to every story. While the Sheriff certainly has his own issues, it seems that whoever the FBI person, is who is complaining about the Sheriff and working hard to be act superior to the Sheriff, has their own issues.

Pima County and the Sheriff of Pima County has jurisdiction in this case. Sheriff wanted to use the same lab that they have been using to process the other evidence so it would all be centralized. FBI person wanted to use their labs. Sheriff gets to go with what he believes is best.

Neither this FBI person or the Sheriff are without fault, but there are many competent people from both sides working on the case. JMO
 
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Yep, true. And yet she holds the world’s record for her 700+ identifications. Maybe she has some clairvoyance. Sorry, promise I don’t usually suggest such a thing but her record is remarkable. She’s not real confident on this one though.
In this case she’s likely doing more harm than good. Trash in equals trash out. You can’t make something that’s even remotely accurate while using an image with a mask that almost covers the entire face. And she even says herself that she is guessing. posted up thread.

It’s as bad as the people asking AI to remove the mask and then spreading it all over social media.
 
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In this case she’s likely doing more harm than good. Trash in equals trash out. You can’t make something that’s even remotely accurate while using an image with a mask that almost covers the entire face. And she even says herself that she is guessing. posted up thread.

It’s as bad as the people asking AI to remove the mask and then spreading it all over social media.
I posted it basically as a human interest type story, as it came up in my new feed.

For my part, I didn't think her sketch looked at all like what I myself had imagined.
 
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I think everyone needs to move from Tucson! What the heck is going on there? Random people wandering over property in the middle of the night, it seems to happen often based on these videos. Same guy, same group?

I don’t think I could live like that.
Where would one move to?
A safe space doesn’t exist
 
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I remember some brief discussion about a large ring being possibly identified in the camera footage. Did that ever get traction or any sort of real media attention?
 
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Forgive me if this has already been deduced, but this thread is moving at warp speed and so can’t read every post. In the photo of the doorstep the lantana is lying on top of the blood. So this guy was there after her removal?
The plant matter could easily have been moved by people walking all over the area. Or possibly by the wind.
 
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I suspect most who point fingers at SIL are suggesting that he came first (to drop off Nancy) and probably had no reason to use the front door. (For example, the back door was found open.)

Then must have left NG incapacitated (on her bed perhaps) before driving back to his house where they had their game night.

Then about 2:00 AM the masked intruder (probably hired by SIL) arrived to remove poor incapacitated NG from her home. JMO

SIL's & Annie's property was searched on Feb. 7.
 
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I took screenshots from the January 23rd doorbell cam in Tucson that was linked to a few posts ago. Who knows if it’s related, but the guy really could match the NG abductor images quite well. I hope he’s being ruled in or out.
When was this posted on ring neighbors? Maybe he saw it and then stared wearing a mask? IMO His torso really looks similar to lantana man. Seems tall though
 
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I don't think so, because the blood isn't present in the doorbell camera video .
The Lantana looks very dry and it may have been blown around by the wind, and trodden on by family members / police / reporters, at any time after the blood landed.

The puzzling thing to me is why the blood doesn't appear to have been trodden on or smeared, either by nancy or the assailant.

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And also, why the blood doesn’t continue. There’s no trail. In either direction. It’s literally just in that one spot. So puzzling!
 
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As it should. In hindsight this is lunacy
Wow. I’m so tired of this Texas heat never thought I’d want to live in Arizona or any place hot — but Tucson looks beautiful. Poor Savannah — please — whoever has her mom or knows where she is — please return her or tell where she is.
 
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When was this posted on ring neighbors? Maybe he saw it and then stared wearing a mask? IMO His torso really looks similar to lantana man. Seems tall though
It was posted on the 23rd; I found the initial screenshot of the post on X. Am I allowed to post that here?
 
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