Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[RayVon]

Seems to me - and I know nothing- that the camera porch guy may not have been trying to get in the house. Perhaps two bad guys are involved. Both, perhaps, went in back and did whatever they did in the house. In my scenario, porch guy came out to front to meet bad guy 2 and help remove Nancy from the house. Forgot the camera was there and then had to deal with it. Backpack could be full of “stuff” from inside - not full of burglary/kidnap tools. Thoughts?

Yes. I think two people.

 

[joe jones]

In my opinion couldn't the foliage have DNA from the mouth of the perp breathing and possibly spreading spit? I mean people, myself included, wear face masks to prevent spreading germs when sick.

All these missteps will one day come back to bite LE, defense attorneys are going to have a field day discussing all the things that were not done correctly, all the contamination of the crime scene to imply that the whole investigation wasn't done correctly and the jury should not rely on anything the prosecution places into evidence from such a poor investigation of the crime scene

 

[ab01]

I keep going back to the thursday after the crime. FBI went back and removed Cameras off of the guest house. These cameras appeared to be mounted to the exterior brick then had a hole drilled through the top of the wall where a wire ran and was connected to a solar charger on the roof. Pretty obvious to spot and looked like a standard install. So I don’t believe those were added by local LE and then removed later by FBI.

So my question is; How in the heck did they not collect those cameras for 5 flippin days?!?!

Unreal imo

 

[SaraSmile]

When LE went to NG's house when she was reported missing, LE immediately knew it was a crime scene and closed off the property for an investigation of a crime. MOO

And brought in homicide unit

JMO

 

[shonyakay]

I have rationalized the SIL (maybe AG) being involved vs. not. The night before NG is abducted, she has an idyllic night of games and dinner at AG/SIL home. They are presumably the last to see her alive. Still unclear who brought her home. The garage up/down for such a short period of time still bothers me.

We know they are going to be questioned no matter what. It's possible LE believes the suspect has a connection to their neighborhood. Maybe he saw NG often at their home and that unfortunately grabbed his interest. And this is the reason they are searching around AB’s home. The connection is proximity only.

However, I cannot show any serious interest in following this case and not consider SIL (maybe AG) of potentially being involved in some way. I do not think the suspect in the FBI released video is the SIL but that does not mean there is no connection to NG being abducted and IMO murdered.

LE has repeatedly gone back to their home. I have lost count how many times. LE is also going inside the home. That tells me LE has some evidence that is bringing them there…. over and over. IMO

When Sheriff Nanos talked about that garage door opening and closing he stated "approximately" and he even stated, "I can't state that enough."

 

[NicoleInVa]

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If Nancy's home is in the area I'm thinking of, the Pima County Sheriff's Dept is only about 12 miles away. The area has homes that start at the base of the Mountain (Dove Mtn) and work their way up with lots getting larger and houses set further apart than a "subdivision". They have a beautiful golf course, and a Ritz Carlton close by. This home seems to be up in the more secluded area further up the mountain. Stunningly beautiful area and typically low crime rate.

Just my observation.

Not Dove Mountain. She’s in the Catalina Foothills.

 

[Ashbeck]

I think until the doorbell footage was recovered that LE probably had suspicion it was AG/TC - after all they were the last to see her alive AND they were the ones who raised the alarm. Occam’s razor would suggest the same. It’s probably why there seemed to be activity around AG’s house over the weekend and in to the start of this week. I think discovering the footage of the masked man has blown any of their theories out of the water and they’ve realised this is much bigger than a disgruntled SIL offing his MIL for whatever reason. I think that’s probably why we’re now seeing what we’d think are basic investigation steps - securing the doorbell mount, searching around her house, asking for camera footage from neighbours etc. MOO.

 

[raja]

I am wondering if the 1:47 camera disconnect was actually done from NG’s phone inside. I can disable my camera from my phone. Then the perp thinks shoot the camera may still have the ability to film so before he take NG out the front door he goes back at 2:12 and removes the camera. HL from TMZ seems to believe the video of this monster was from the 2:12 motion that was detected. Just a thought

 

[Wsimm]

IMO - I agree that the Daily Beast is liberal or left leaning but not part of Time Magazine. It was once associated with Newsweek but that was only for a few years over a decade ago. Daily Beast is owned by IAC (InterActiveCorp) and Time Magazine which was previously owned by Time Warner has been owned for the past several years by the guy who started SalesForce - sorry I can’t think of his name right now. I do think the Daily Beast is considered main stream media and not a tabloid in the same sense as the national enquirer but perhaps a mod could clarify whether it is considered main stream media on WS.

That’s the problem with all media today, they lean. We need a media thats sturdy. I’ve never heard of BE before this case and I’m actually very impressed with the questions he asks in every interview I’ve watched. They’re questions that I’d ask.

 

[scorpio24]

It looks like they forgot about camera, but it could have been their “job”, thus extreme disguise,
So the person, people inside( entered back door), could bring NG out undetected ( sorry).
Just another thought.

JMO

I believe the disconnection of the camera at 1:47 am is key here and why the police have not officially cleared the family. Was it disconnected via an app? Who was in a position/had the credentials to do that?

If the perp we saw on the video looked surprised, maybe it was not because he didn't expect the camera, but because the LIGHT was still on (because of the battery backup.) It was SUPPOSED to be off. And he got flustered.

In my opinion, someone had the credentials to disable the system - and did - and that's one avenue the investigators are pursuing. MOO

 

[K9Enzo]

I am still thinking about NG being confronted by that masked figure in her bed having been woken up, it is horrifying to think of what she must have gone through, and the terror it must have instilled in her children when they showed them the video to see if they recognized the masked man, it certainly sent shivers up my spine and made me check my doors were locked securely at night

Yes. It is horrifying. It hurts my soul to think of how terrified Ms. NG must have been. I think of my own grandma at that age, who lived alone for years as a widow. I can still hear her in my head praying through the walls at night for everyone. Her cute evening routine. The letters she still wrote to loved ones. To think of someone harming her...I just can't. IMO

 

[Silverstorm]

Crime Scene DNA Could Create Image of Suspect's Face

Note this article came out in 2009! I find the science used here fascinating. Moo.

 

[EJB123456]

I think anyone of us on Websleuths would have done a better job collecting evidence and securing the scene.

At this point I’m not even convinced they unlocked the guest house and peeked under the bed.

 

[Ur728]

I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO

 

[joe jones]

I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO

I was struck by how cumbersome the gloves looked,

 

[auburnmomof2]

Have the flight logs out of Tucson the morning of NG kidnapping been discussed here? If so, can someone please reply with that link?

 

[SaraSmile]

I have thought he may be under the influence of drink or drugs, just so weird to use plants to try to cover camera when he had a backpack packed with stuff on his back which might have had something in to conceal cameras,

Agreed, it turns out, many criminals get high before committing a crime.
Alcohol=Liquid courage, Meth, cocaine= strength ( in their minds!).

JMO

 

[rebel123]

I believe they called 911 in approx 7 minutes.

Apologies on this. I'm sure that was initially stated. I've not focused on that. As said previously, there are so many 'threads' to this case.

 

[Skigh]

I like that confidence.

It would not be difficult to do a better job. I will extend my list to any one who has read a detective novel or watched a crime tv programme.
Nancy Drew or The Famous five would have done a better job.

 

[ogold45]

I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO

I know it's minor but this is one of the most interesting parts of the whole thing to me. I find it very strange/weird they did that. The mannerisms are just off.