AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SaraSmile]

I have thought he may be under the influence of drink or drugs, just so weird to use plants to try to cover camera when he had a backpack packed with stuff on his back which might have had something in to conceal cameras,

Agreed, it turns out, many criminals get high before committing a crime.
Alcohol=Liquid courage, Meth, cocaine= strength ( in their minds!).

JMO

 

[rebel123]

I believe they called 911 in approx 7 minutes.

Apologies on this. I'm sure that was initially stated. I've not focused on that. As said previously, there are so many 'threads' to this case.

 

[Skigh]

I like that confidence.

It would not be difficult to do a better job. I will extend my list to any one who has read a detective novel or watched a crime tv programme.
Nancy Drew or The Famous five would have done a better job.

 

[ogold45]

I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO

I know it's minor but this is one of the most interesting parts of the whole thing to me. I find it very strange/weird they did that. The mannerisms are just off.

 

[allboys]

Megyn Kelly is reporting that LE is asking neighbors of AG's about a phone.

Maybe a phone pinged near AG’s house late that night, and looking back at cell phone tower records, that was not a number that had history pinging around there.,ie. A possible burner phone. Excuse my non-technical explanation. Speculation only.

 

[warp3dwing]

I think anyone of us on Websleuths would have done a better job collecting evidence and securing the scene.

Ha! I like your spirit. Of course, there’s more than one way to bungle an investigation. But there’s no way I would’ve left this obvious stuff on the ground. Some investigators do things like remove entire segments of walls or entire doors for analysis. No so here.

 

[cherryleaf]

The things, that make you go hmmmm..

We all have experienced cases, were it looked like a mastermind had been behind it only to eventually realize it’s was quite the opposite. Sometimes things seem to be arranged to look a certain way and sometimes they are just happenstance.

So, what do we have here? Let’s revisit.

Starting with a photo from FOX news, from February 6th, marking the damaged and intact floodlights on NG’s property. The damaged floodlights are installed on the4 main house in close proximity to each other leading to the courtyard.
Photograph by Fox News, 02-02-2026

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In this photograph from WBTV we see an open gate, which is located between the guesthouse and the main house. In most of the other aerial videos including GoogleEarth that gate is closed. I therefore assume the gate is usually closed or most likely closed during the night. This is also one of the intact floodlight locations:

Photograph by WBTV

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In Brian Entin’s first video (02/04) he is interviewing two retired FBI agents and confirms a forced entry into the house. We I know about a back door/sliding door (?) possibly being the forced entry location. It has not been confirmed whether or not the subject entered through that location.

Next, we have been told by the Sheriff, that NG had been dropped off by a family member. She supposedly entered the house through the garage door. In this photograph we see the open garage and also the gate leading into the courtyard. Notice the 2 steps and the floodlight above (!). That floodlight did not appear to be damaged:

Photograph by FOX Flight Team

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So, we have 2 floodlights that are damaged and 2 floodlights, which seem intact. The first 2 floodlights are close to the roof of the main house. The other two are located above the steps leading to the gate (courtyard) and on the corner of the main house to the left looking at the main entry in the front of the building.

So why damaging the floodlights illuminating the courtyard and not crushing the floodlight in front of the gate or the floodlight on the corner of the main house? Leaving the corner floodlight to the left of the main entry intact can be explained by not really playing a role of either tripping a camera or illuminating the subject’s way of entry.

Leaving the floodlight in front of the gate intact begs the question why? There is no camera, that can be tripped. If the subject planned on entering via courtyard and through the back door/sliding door (?), would that gate not be the access of choice? It does not seem that high. Backpack over and you are in.

Well, then we have to also consider the two (pairs) of floodlights dangling down from the wall. It looks to me like someone went on the roof and either tried to step on one of the floodlights - they broke- and then tried climbing do own. From the roof stepping in the second floodlight..and they broke as well. Really? Someone would be that sporty tho climb on the roof - or parked their pickup truck close to the garage to get up there - but they are not sporty enough to get down?

And then we have the recently released video of weedy lantana man wearing a fully packed backpack and he is trying to obscure the doorbell camera with some plants after already being recorded. Who does that?

So wee have Mr fully-packed-backpack-lantana-man getting sporty now and trying to get on the roof after realizing the front door may be a no-go trying to get into the courtyard while possibly braking the floodlights? Or did he break the floodlights after getting into the courtyard via the gate after possibly already being recorded? Who does that?

All of this makes no sense. A pre-planned home invasion or a pre-planned kidnapping would absolutely involve more preparation than to pick some flowers trying to cover the doorbell cam..And yet, removing the doorbell cam would insure not to see the condition NG was in, when possibly taken out that front door. In case they never intended to handing her over back to the family..just saying. ALL IMO of course.

Who does that..? Unless this is all smokescreen and they knew exactly what they were doing, why they were doing it and to whom they were doing it to.

All IMO

Cheers,
Nin

Could someone have just jumped the fence in the rear of the property by the pool and gained entry that way? Idk how high that brick fence is.

 

[girlhasnoname]

<snipped BBM>

As of mid-February 2026, the disappearance remains unresolved, with law enforcement confirming that no suspect has been identified and no arrest has been made. Updates have been limited to confirmed facts to preserve the integrity of the case.

Police have clearly stated that rumors circulating online involving Savannah Guthrie’s brother-in-law as a suspect are false, reiterating that such claims are not supported by evidence.

As officials work to shut down misinformation and protect the family from harmful speculation, the emotional toll of the situation has become increasingly visible.


MSN

 

[Ur728]

I know it's minor but this is one of the most interesting parts of the whole thing to me. I find it very strange/weird they did that. The mannerisms are just off.

Exactly, and if you watch all of the videos, that hand, being the right hand, stays in one position for the most part. There's little movement.

 

[Melisende10]

I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO

I think it was because they were using layers of gloves. May have made it a bit more difficult for them to fully use their hands.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[VegasGirl35]

I was struck by how cumbersome the gloves looked,

Same which makes me think Lantana man's role was lookout/carrying supplies rather than the muscle that subdued Nancy. Those gloves reminded me of the giant puffy mittens they used to put on us as kids in the 80s. They were so bulky and thick, you couldn't do jack squat with your hands without taking them off. There's no way that guy would've been able to draw his gun and wrangle Nancy. There had to be accomplices who went in the back.

 

[Fargo]

I have rationalized the SIL (maybe AG) being involved vs. not. The night before NG is abducted, she has an idyllic night of games and dinner at AG/SIL home. They are presumably the last to see her alive. Still unclear who brought her home. The garage up/down for such a short period of time still bothers me.

We know they are going to be questioned no matter what. It's possible LE believes the suspect has a connection to their neighborhood. Maybe he saw NG often at their home and that unfortunately grabbed his interest. And this is the reason they are searching around AB’s home. The connection is proximity only.

However, I cannot show any serious interest in following this case and not consider SIL (maybe AG) of potentially being involved in some way. I do not think the suspect in the FBI released video is the SIL but that does not mean there is no connection to NG being abducted and IMO murdered.

LE has repeatedly gone back to their home. I have lost count how many times. LE is also going inside the home. That tells me LE has some evidence that is bringing them there…. over and over. IMO

BBM. But was it idyllic? It's not possible to know what really goes on in people's homes or relationships behind closed doors. We may feel like we know people or their families because we see them on TV or Instagram or other media but those curated images are merely what people want other people to see. Maybe close to the truth, maybe a thousand miles from it. IMO

 

[joe jones]

Same which makes me think Lantana man's role was lookout/carrying supplies rather than the muscle that subdued Nancy. Those gloves reminded me of the giant puffy mittens they used to put on us as kids in the 80s. They were so bulky and thick, you couldn't do jack squat with your hands without taking them off. There's no way that guy would've been able to draw his gun and wrangle Nancy. There had to be accomplices who went in the back.

I think he is the sole perpetrator, but he had to take those outside gloves off to commit the crime,

 

[warp3dwing]

Can you imagine if the perp spit on it like some men tend to do as a habit. And it just laid out there in the open all this time.

I’ll add a couple more things that could be on the mat, which might make a good fiber trap:

Fibers from clothing, allowing for a more definitive identification of the brand.

Fibers from vehicle carpeting, allowing for a narrowing down of models, and matching to a suspect’s vehicle should one be suspected.

 

[Ur728]

I think it was because they were using layers of gloves. May have made it a bit more difficult for them to fully use their hands.

They used their left hand without a problem.

 

[ogold45]

Exactly, and if you watch all of the videos, that hand, being the right hand, stays in one position for the most part. There's little movement.

Haven't noticed that, I'll take a look again.

 

[DizzyB]

This is what has been on my mind when seeing the video. It was odd, to me, the way he covered the camera lens. You would think you would just use your palm or fingers. However, if he was in mid knock then the strange way he blocked does make sense. If you watch the video it really does seem he was going for the door, looking to the left of it first (looking through the sidelight?). He then raises his hand as if to knock (actually pound) on the door then seems to notice the camera. He actually steps to his right. After covering the camera you can see his left hand do something. At first his left hand is wide as if to grab the doorbell then changes his mind and it really looks like he presses the doorbell. That doesn't make sense. Its between eight and ten seconds of the video released. His left hand presses on something below the lens. The doorknob is clearly seen and not what he is touching.

For some reason after manipulating the doorbell he decides to turn around and find the plant etc.. Unfortunately we don't have video if the camera comes off while the he is holding the plant over it or something else happens. Not having sound also leaves a gap in possibly knowing what is going on. Of course the intention of the released portion of the video was possible recognition of the person and not what he is doing.

It did look like like he first was reaching above the camera, maybe to knock on the glass to someone already inside? I think the doorbell is lower and to the right.
The timeline stated the camera “disconnected” at 1:47 am. Software detected a person at 2:12 am, “no video available, no subscription”. Could the lantana man footage be the recovered 2:12 footage, where the perpetrator believed the camera had already been disconnected? Maybe the filming light turned on at that point and he realized he had a problem. Maybe he then decided to remove the camera , thinking that there would be no cloud footage based available.

 

[tkcrockett]

I’ll add a couple more things that could be on the mat, which might make a good fiber trap:

Fibers from clothing, allowing for a more definitive identification of the brand.

Fibers from vehicle carpeting, allowing for a narrowing down of models, and matching to a suspect’s vehicle should one be suspected.

Shoe prints

 

[joe jones]

I’ll add a couple more things that could be on the mat, which might make a good fiber trap:

Fibers from clothing, allowing for a more definitive identification of the brand.

Fibers from vehicle carpeting, allowing for a narrowing down of models, and matching to a suspect’s vehicle should one be suspected.

but all that evidence is now contaminated as so many people went into crime scene before mat was collected