AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[girlhasnoname]

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As of mid-February 2026, the disappearance remains unresolved, with law enforcement confirming that no suspect has been identified and no arrest has been made. Updates have been limited to confirmed facts to preserve the integrity of the case.

Police have clearly stated that rumors circulating online involving Savannah Guthrie’s brother-in-law as a suspect are false, reiterating that such claims are not supported by evidence.

As officials work to shut down misinformation and protect the family from harmful speculation, the emotional toll of the situation has become increasingly visible.


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[Ur728]

I know it's minor but this is one of the most interesting parts of the whole thing to me. I find it very strange/weird they did that. The mannerisms are just off.

Exactly, and if you watch all of the videos, that hand, being the right hand, stays in one position for the most part. There's little movement.

 

[Melisende10]

I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO

I think it was because they were using layers of gloves. May have made it a bit more difficult for them to fully use their hands.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[VegasGirl35]

I was struck by how cumbersome the gloves looked,

Same which makes me think Lantana man's role was lookout/carrying supplies rather than the muscle that subdued Nancy. Those gloves reminded me of the giant puffy mittens they used to put on us as kids in the 80s. They were so bulky and thick, you couldn't do jack squat with your hands without taking them off. There's no way that guy would've been able to draw his gun and wrangle Nancy. There had to be accomplices who went in the back.

 

[Fargo]

I have rationalized the SIL (maybe AG) being involved vs. not. The night before NG is abducted, she has an idyllic night of games and dinner at AG/SIL home. They are presumably the last to see her alive. Still unclear who brought her home. The garage up/down for such a short period of time still bothers me.

We know they are going to be questioned no matter what. It's possible LE believes the suspect has a connection to their neighborhood. Maybe he saw NG often at their home and that unfortunately grabbed his interest. And this is the reason they are searching around AB’s home. The connection is proximity only.

However, I cannot show any serious interest in following this case and not consider SIL (maybe AG) of potentially being involved in some way. I do not think the suspect in the FBI released video is the SIL but that does not mean there is no connection to NG being abducted and IMO murdered.

LE has repeatedly gone back to their home. I have lost count how many times. LE is also going inside the home. That tells me LE has some evidence that is bringing them there…. over and over. IMO

BBM. But was it idyllic? It's not possible to know what really goes on in people's homes or relationships behind closed doors. We may feel like we know people or their families because we see them on TV or Instagram or other media but those curated images are merely what people want other people to see. Maybe close to the truth, maybe a thousand miles from it. IMO

 

[joe jones]

Same which makes me think Lantana man's role was lookout/carrying supplies rather than the muscle that subdued Nancy. Those gloves reminded me of the giant puffy mittens they used to put on us as kids in the 80s. They were so bulky and thick, you couldn't do jack squat with your hands without taking them off. There's no way that guy would've been able to draw his gun and wrangle Nancy. There had to be accomplices who went in the back.

I think he is the sole perpetrator, but he had to take those outside gloves off to commit the crime,

 

[warp3dwing]

Can you imagine if the perp spit on it like some men tend to do as a habit. And it just laid out there in the open all this time.

I’ll add a couple more things that could be on the mat, which might make a good fiber trap:

Fibers from clothing, allowing for a more definitive identification of the brand.

Fibers from vehicle carpeting, allowing for a narrowing down of models, and matching to a suspect’s vehicle should one be suspected.

 

[Ur728]

I think it was because they were using layers of gloves. May have made it a bit more difficult for them to fully use their hands.

They used their left hand without a problem.

 

[ogold45]

Exactly, and if you watch all of the videos, that hand, being the right hand, stays in one position for the most part. There's little movement.

Haven't noticed that, I'll take a look again.

 

[DizzyB]

This is what has been on my mind when seeing the video. It was odd, to me, the way he covered the camera lens. You would think you would just use your palm or fingers. However, if he was in mid knock then the strange way he blocked does make sense. If you watch the video it really does seem he was going for the door, looking to the left of it first (looking through the sidelight?). He then raises his hand as if to knock (actually pound) on the door then seems to notice the camera. He actually steps to his right. After covering the camera you can see his left hand do something. At first his left hand is wide as if to grab the doorbell then changes his mind and it really looks like he presses the doorbell. That doesn't make sense. Its between eight and ten seconds of the video released. His left hand presses on something below the lens. The doorknob is clearly seen and not what he is touching.

For some reason after manipulating the doorbell he decides to turn around and find the plant etc.. Unfortunately we don't have video if the camera comes off while the he is holding the plant over it or something else happens. Not having sound also leaves a gap in possibly knowing what is going on. Of course the intention of the released portion of the video was possible recognition of the person and not what he is doing.

It did look like like he first was reaching above the camera, maybe to knock on the glass to someone already inside? I think the doorbell is lower and to the right.
The timeline stated the camera “disconnected” at 1:47 am. Software detected a person at 2:12 am, “no video available, no subscription”. Could the lantana man footage be the recovered 2:12 footage, where the perpetrator believed the camera had already been disconnected? Maybe the filming light turned on at that point and he realized he had a problem. Maybe he then decided to remove the camera , thinking that there would be no cloud footage based available.

 

[tkcrockett]

I’ll add a couple more things that could be on the mat, which might make a good fiber trap:

Fibers from clothing, allowing for a more definitive identification of the brand.

Fibers from vehicle carpeting, allowing for a narrowing down of models, and matching to a suspect’s vehicle should one be suspected.

Shoe prints

 

[joe jones]

I’ll add a couple more things that could be on the mat, which might make a good fiber trap:

Fibers from clothing, allowing for a more definitive identification of the brand.

Fibers from vehicle carpeting, allowing for a narrowing down of models, and matching to a suspect’s vehicle should one be suspected.

but all that evidence is now contaminated as so many people went into crime scene before mat was collected

 

[Auburnlucky7]

It's a shame that this even has to be questioned, as it was from the beginning a high profile homicide investigation.

I don't believe/recall them saying from the beginning it was a homicide investigation. I thought it was said they brought in the homicide detectives because of the scene they found and knew it to be a much more complicated crime and homicide had more experience with that vs a person wandering off (paraphrasing here). In the beginning it was not treated as a homicide. I may be misremembering that so apologies if I'm wrong.

 

[HoveringWombats]

I couldn't figure out which post to reply to because there have been a few that touched on aspects of this, so I will just start clean... Only my opinions in this post from here forward.

If we're talking about (unproven) theories that the ransom note came from the same party or parties who are seen on camera, I really think that we shouldn't over-index on the "bitcoin" aspect of this whole thing.

Two reasons:

First, I fundamentally disagree that the bitcoin wallet address in the ransom note is a sign of sophistication. I think we (mostly) all agree that it would take sophistication to successfully pull of a bitcoin ransom, but that is not what has happened here. I personally find it entirely plausible that someone basically googled how to get money anonymously, saw "bitcoin" referenced, learned just enough to create a wallet, and used that in the letter. And similarly Googled how to hide their origin on the internet, and used one of those more shady VPN services or Tor (which may not obscure the origin forever, but can make it take much longer to track down).

Maybe they are one of those people who are just good at getting out of sticky situations, so they assume that they'll be able to successfully deal with laundering the bitcoin later (probably wrong if they don't already know how to do it). Or maybe they're too clueless to even know that that will be an issue. Maybe they haven't given it any thought at all.

I just don't think that we can conclude that the person who wrote those letters knows what they are doing technically, because the only things they have demonstrated so far are things that many if not most people could do after a bit of googling. The hard parts (laundering the bitcoin, and keeping the internet origin hidden forever) are not things that they have demonstrated an ability to do yet. Time will tell, I suppose.

Second, even if we do assume that the person who wrote the notes is technically sophisticated, I don't really think that says much about their skills in terms of real-world breaking and entering and kidnapping. It's a trope at this point that people who are "good at computers" are geniuses, but as someone who IS good at computers, I assure you that there are countless things that I am an absolute idiot at. Technology is just a skill (or talent, if you want) like any other, and I don't think that being good at it really has any correlation with being good at other stuff.

Yeah, you could argue that being technical implies being detail-oriented, and you could say that the person on camera doesn't appear to be detail-oriented. But I'm not really sure the generalization applies. I think of myself as a detail-oriented person (maybe not demonstrated by the number of mistakes and typos I make here while trying to keep up with the thread...), and I'm pretty sure that if I tried to pull off something like this, there would be many "real world" considerations I didn't think of until I encountered them in the wild.

Anyway, all that to say, I don't think that we can conclude that the person on the camera is not the person who wrote the notes simply based on any assumption of sophistication either technically or real-world criminally.

I'm not trying to say "it could be anyone!!!" (has anyone heard if I have been cleared yet?!) but I just don't want us to incorrectly narrow our profile of who it could be based on assumptions that may not hold up.

And, just to state it plainly: I am not convinced that the ransom note writer and the person on camera are in any way related. I'm just saying that I don't think the evidence we have disproves it conclusively, so we shouldn't close that door completely.

All JMO of course.

 

[Ur728]

I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO

Quoting myself to add this link: https://www.webmd.com/brain/upper-limb-spasticity
It’s possible the person has something like this. JMO

 

[Bodhi]

Keystone Kash’s FBI Blocked From Accessing Nancy Guthrie Evidence

Points of tension have emerged between the local sheriff’s office and the FBI.

www.thedailybeast.com

This is an article from the Daily Beast, if true, is very concerning~~~
the article is behind a paywall

I'm not a subscriber. I just read it. It was not behind a paywall for me.

 

[maskedwoman]

Does anyone have any info on why Nancy’s name would have been searched so many times before the incident - from places outside of her state? I am not seeing a lot of info about this and … idk it seems kind of important? Would love to hear your thoughts!

It's hard to say without knowing exactly how the search was structured. I read somewhere that there is a Nancy Guthrie that is an author. She lives in another area of the country. I don't recall seeing whether the original search history search included just NG's name, or whether it included SG or Tucson, etc., so we can't say for sure which NG that January search was about.

 

[merrymary]

I keep thinking about how the perp didn't cover the camera with an open hand and used a fist. I watched the videos several times and wondered whether they don't have arthritis, a disability, or an illness that prevents them from fully opening their hand. JMO

Wearing more than one pair of gloves could explain this

 

[Curiousobserver]

This is what has been on my mind when seeing the video. It was odd, to me, the way he covered the camera lens. You would think you would just use your palm or fingers. However, if he was in mid knock then the strange way he blocked does make sense. If you watch the video it really does seem he was going for the door, looking to the left of it first (looking through the sidelight?). He then raises his hand as if to knock (actually pound) on the door then seems to notice the camera. He actually steps to his right. After covering the camera you can see his left hand do something. At first his left hand is wide as if to grab the doorbell then changes his mind and it really looks like he presses the doorbell. That doesn't make sense. Its between eight and ten seconds of the video released. His left hand presses on something below the lens. The doorknob is clearly seen and not what he is touching.

For some reason after manipulating the doorbell he decides to turn around and find the plant etc.. Unfortunately we don't have video if the camera comes off while the he is holding the plant over it or something else happens. Not having sound also leaves a gap in possibly knowing what is going on. Of course the intention of the released portion of the video was possible recognition of the person and not what he is doing.

Same here- what an odd way to block the camera. I think 9/10 someone would put their whole hand over it, and the tenth time put their finger over it.