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I think if Nancy was found alive tonight we would already know. So I'm hoping all of this is just because they were involved in hoax ransoms. I think it would still make sense to have so many entities present until such time as it is proven to be only a hoax. Even then, that still doesn't bode well for Nancy's chances at this time.

ETA: not wanting to think about other reasons for the large presence tonight yet.
 
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Something occurred to me that may have already been posted. I'll be as ambiguous and generalized as I can be. Please delete/blur if not good enough:

If this person is who is claimed to perhaps reside at the purported home and the job description is specifically what is suspected but not confirmed, could this person have been the TMZ email this AM alleging he/she knows who did this and could lose everything or similar if he/she publicly came forward? If so, then AB's reporting may need more consideration.

JMO.
Also wondering whether this person could have been the TMZ email this morning. MO
 
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Interesting footwear on the person being questioned.

Editing to add: When I zoomed in I thought it looked like the person was wearing white boots. In another shot, it looks like jeans with tennis shoes and perhaps the bright lights were making it all blend together to look like boots (to me).
Yes white pants or white jeans that are a little too long for the person and bright white tennis shoes.
 
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I just can’t imagine living to be 84 only to lose your life in such a senseless way. I know it’s highly unlikely but I’m still hoping against all odds that NG is okay. Going to be a long night!
 
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A criminal heart can reside in a wealthy person, as well.

We’ve all read about cases that surprise us, and not every crime is committed by the poor seeking money.

We still don’t know why NG was kidnapped, nor the validity of the ransom notes.

It may well be someone with a record, or someone committing a first crime. It may be someone poor, or someone for whom this is just some kind of thrill.

Rob Reiner’s son was rich, the man who recently killed his former wife (Tepe case) was a heart doctor, to mention two recent cases. Those were motivated by hatred, not by money.

Yes, it may well be someone poor, desperate, on drugs or anything else at this point. And yes, statistically it’s more likely to have crime in a “bad” neighborhood.

But IMO nothing can ever be ruled out just based on probability, as well as the preconceived notions we all harbor, consciously or not.

In my opinion.

Yeah but it’s pretty rare to have a wealthy neighbor commit a home invasion involving a violent crime against another wealthy neighbor. Sure maybe a fear thy neighbor type property dispute but not a home invasion.
 
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IMO because he is a senator there and may be able to help activate quick high level action to save her mother. If I was in that situation and could do the same, I would also I believe
It's a smart thing for anybody in the US to call their senator if they are in some horrific situation like this. Senators have access to tons of resources and can get things rolling immediately.
 
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Yes white pants or white jeans that are a little too long for the person and bright white tennis shoes.

I don’t understand what this means? Did we see this in the doorbell video?
 
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If you don’t stay on topic this thread will get shut down. Please don’t let that happen. It’s the source of info for many of us.
 
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I don’t understand what this means? Did we see this in the doorbell video?
No, they are talking about what the detainee from the traffic stop was wearing. They screenshot the video and are zooming in.
 
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I'm wondering is this related to the person seen on NG nest camera or an FBI lead on a ransom note?
 
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Yes, I didn't mean to start a thing. I truly have been so unlucky to never experience a Culverts before. But I appreciate everyone who brought laughter. It's good medicine for such a tense thread and situation.

I think if Nancy was found alive tonight we would already know. So I'm hoping all of this is just because they were involved in hoax ransoms. I think it would still make sense to have so many entities present until such time as it is proven to be only a hoax. Even then, that still doesn't bode well for Nancy's chances at this time.
It was a nice momentary distraction. Although now I'm hungry for real. If I wasn't so tight on money I'd go get Culver's for my super single valentines day lol.
I just want Nancy to be ok so badly. My heart is broken for her family and this nightmare. I would love for this case to have a positive outcome!
I can't stay up all night though. Remodeling a house for my landlord to sell as a 50 yr old has me worn out this week.
This case is just so close to home with many of us who love our elderly family members.
My opinions as always and praying for the Guthrie family and holding on to hope
 
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I had never heard of Culver's before tonight but I'm packing to move to a state that has them.
 
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Yikes Lookner saying someone shot himself in the head during a swat operation. A neighbor witnessed it? Did they do it outside?
 
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