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Feds looking at a bag in the trunk of the SUV at Culver’s. Hard to tell on video but perhaps the Ozark bag?
is there a link to the culvers stream ?
 
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There seems to be a lot of confusion over this. It’s unlikely this person witnessed both, so I would assume they’re repeating a rumor about the person shooting himself. There has also been talk of two hit and runs that happened in the area tonight. It may be that things are getting mixed up, as is often the case with early reports.
 
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Wow, so the rumors were true. Someone killed themselves, and it seems it was likely connected to this investigation.

What is going on? Speculation, but potentially 3-4 people were aware of what happened to Nancy or concocted some plot around her? And someone killed themselves rather than be detained? This is incredibly dark...
Incredibly dark, but also incredibly telling.

You don't kill yourself if you're the wrong guy.
 
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Feds looking at a bag in the trunk of the SUV at Culver’s. Hard to tell on video but perhaps the Ozark bag?
So they are still there at the Culver’s now?
 
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FOX 10 in Phoenix has a live feed - they were taking photos of this Range Rover (rear license plate covered). The Range Rover is in the parking lot of Culver's. The in-studio announcer took a break while waiting for their reporter to get to the site to find out more information, but the feed remains active. Sheriff's Deputies and FBI presence on the scene.

 
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I live on the east coast so I'm going to hit the hay. Crossing my fingers this is the real deal. If I wake up to a notification on my phone that says "Suspects detained have been released, search for Nancy Guthrie remains ongoing" then you might as well cue up the circus music.
More like the Curb Your Enthusiasm soundtrack
 
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This is sad, crazy, wild. SMH
 
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So it's true! ARGH! Now we will never know why he did what he did!
It isn't even known WHAT he did yet...could just be the fake ransom email guy.
 
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Just a note here. One end of N Camino De Michael links with Orange Grove and the other end links to E Rudasill RD that links to N 1st. I would think there would be a road block on that end too?

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I have’t been on here for a few days, but woke up tonight to check in. I feel like something must’ve nudged me. Hoping this is some kind of resolution happening for NG & family. Sending all my prayers from the east coast🤍
 
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Sorry, but it feels more and more like NG is gone. I hope and pray not, but...
 
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There seems to be a lot of confusion over this. It’s unlikely this person witnessed both, so I would assume they’re repeating a rumor about the person shooting himself. There has also been talk of two hit and runs that happened in the area tonight. It may be that things are getting mixed up, as is often the case with early reports.
It also rained. And that means wrecks.
 
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I think there is conflicting information about the specific address of the relevant house. IMO it's possible a house on the next street was accessed through the yard of the address that has been most frequently mentioned.

Yes, this is the most likely scenario. I think I jumped the gun compiling and synthesizing all of this information that was really, really too crazy sounding to be coincidental. But I suppose now that it almost certainly is (hence my augmented reality follow up post). Indeed Mr. Twain, truth is stranger than fiction.

This case is and has been a master class in both incongruence and lunacy. Sometimes its difficult to remember that in all of this deception and madness there are real people who are hurting immensely tonight as they have to sit and watch all of this unfold.

JMO.
 
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is there a link to the culvers stream ?
It was on Live Now Fox on YT coverage. They were focused on cops / Feds standing around an SUV with the plate covered and taking lots of photos.

Just now realized the SUV is similar in colour and size to many others parked there so could well have been a bag from law enforcement.

Apologies, I’m catching up and just had the coverage on.
 
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So they are still there at the Culver’s now?
Yes the Fox stream moved to the Culver’s where there were Feds and local LE from what I could tell
 
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CNN just read the statement the Pima Sheriff promised for tonight. Not much to it, but the Sheriff said they won't provide additional info because it is a joint investigation with FBI. The statement is probably on X, but I don't have X so maybe someone else can link or copy it
 
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I'm guessing botched abduction, one or more people grabbed her intending on extorting her family for money but she died before they were able to put out a ransom?
 

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