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For everyone getting upset, if police don’t follow up on every reasonable lead, it becomes an avenue for the defense to use when the actual suspects are actually found. We literally just saw this in the Delphi case.

Police are not asking media to follow them around and random people to breathlessly speculate about what’s going on and who may or may not be involved. The only reason people get hyped up and then disappointed is the media circus and resulting latching on to every little detail by onlookers. It’s a complicated case. They’re going where the case takes them. Be glad they’re not just sitting back attempting to solve the case from their desks.

JMO
I disagree. You have a tip and you send someone out to investigate the lead---you don't send 50 LE vehicles to the site. There have been many times they interviewed someone based on a tip and then followed them around. For instance, the perp in the Abby and Libby case self reported he was at the site. Did LE send a whole swat team to his house? Maybe they should have--but I digress. NO, they sent a DNR officer to interview.

This is just crazy the way this is being handled---media or no media.
 
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I'm not sure why people are so quick to say last night's police activity yielded nothing. They'll need time to process any evidence they gathered. Until then, they really shouldn't speculate on the value of what they may have found last night. Seems like a good time for us all to take a break and check back later.
 
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The ones that have a sympathetic or offbeat "angle". PREGNANT woman disappears, COED mass murder, CEO of company gets gunned down in Manhattan, PAGEANT child abducted from home, PRETTY blonde girl disappears from class trip, MOTHER OF CELEBRITY missing . Ransom notes definitely add to the intrigue Just the amount of crimes sleuthed here on WEBSLEUTHS vs the amount of national scrutiny given by the media to 1000's of missing people should tell us that this is also a ratings grabber for the networks and the length of this 24/7 almost exclusive coverage has become excessive. . and not discernibly productive. JMO
Well said.

This case brings up a lot of conflicting emotions, as I think it does for anyone with missing family or friends.

Of course, I want to see Nancy found and the perpetrators brought to justice. But to see the amount of manpower and resources some cases get verses others leaves me steaming. That, in turn, makes me feel sad and guilty.
 
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For everyone getting upset, if police don’t follow up on every reasonable lead, it becomes an avenue for the defense to use when the actual suspects are actually found. We literally just saw this in the Delphi case.

Police are not asking media to follow them around and random people to breathlessly speculate about what’s going on and who may or may not be involved. The only reason people get hyped up and then disappointed is the media circus and resulting latching on to every little detail by onlookers. It’s a complicated case. They’re going where the case takes them. Be glad they’re not just sitting back attempting to solve the case from their desks.

JMO

That's my question. How well do they vet and determine what is a reasonable lead? This is the second time. Talk about getting hopes up - imagine the Guthrie family last night.

This investigation costs money. A lot of money. I'm all for LE pursuing leads, but like you say - let's hope when they gather all the resources they did last night that it is - reasonable.

As far as the media "circus" people would complain if all aspects of this case wasn't being reported on. The media would be accused of "hiding information" and "not being transparent." People don't have to watch the media "circus." It is optional! The media can't help some viewers "breathlessly" speculate on what LE is doing. The media are doing their jobs.

jmo
 
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Let me help you out LOL
Brian Entin reported it last night live on Newsnation IIRC. We have no other verification of this and if they are no longer detained, it may mean nothing in the whole scheme of things anyway.

When posting, you should have a direct link to the source, but if it was on live tv, it's hard to do that unless you can find a clip of that somewhere.

If you would like to link to Brian Entin's X account, you need the full link (like below), doing @**** will actually tag a WS member ;)

Thank you! I know many do not have an X account so I linked the same video he posted to youtube.
 
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So in other words - all options are on the table and Nancy is still nowhere to be found? This is depressing.
LE was staging in Marana last night. To your knowledge, were they staging for something in Marana or for the house 2 miles from NG's house? And am I understanding that there do not have anybody in custody?
 
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Yes. I understand that officers do search warrants and leads daily without all of the equipment this outfit seems to use. I think ultimately I just don't understand.
IMO
Just understand this show of force is designed to show they are working as hard as they can as much as to say we have viable leads. Wish it was less show and more research since this again has been a nothing burger and probably another half million down the drain. I hope Tucson has a large tax base and flush coffers because this is going to be a line item impact on city budget.
And that sounds really tacky—but we all know crime solving has budget perimeters that influence the solve rate. Every victim doesn’t get this same level of involvement.
 
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I really cannot believe what I’m reading / seeing.

This has to be one of the craziest cases I have ever followed.

It feels like a fictional movie but the sad thing is it’s not and there’s an 84 year old loved lady still missing
 
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LE was staging in Marana last night. To your knowledge, were they staging for something in Marana or for the house 2 miles from NG's house? And am I understanding that there do not have anybody in custody?
No one in custody from the three people initially involved.
 
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I disagree. You have a tip and you send someone out to investigate the lead---you don't send 50 LE vehicles to the site. There have been many times they interviewed someone based on a tip and then followed them around. For instance, the perp in the Abby and Libby case self reported he was at the site. Did LE send a whole swat team to his house? Maybe they should have--but I digress. NO, they sent a DNR officer to interview.

This is just crazy the way this is being handled---media or no media.
I agree, mostly. But man I wish they had sent a SWAT team to Richard Allen's house right away.
 
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I'm not sure how reliable or relevant this is, but a quick search of the term "Can you trace bitcoin" on Google Trends shows that there was a hit, in Arizona, on the 20th January. Over the last 30 days there were hits for the same search term in only 6 of the 50 states in the USA. The only search that appeared prior to NG's disappearance? The one in Arizona.

Apologies of this has been posted previously, or can be easily debunked, I just thought it was interesting.
This could be very significant. MO
 
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I disagree. You have a tip and you send someone out to investigate the lead---you don't send 50 LE vehicles to the site. There have been many times they interviewed someone based on a tip and then followed them around. For instance, the perp in the Abby and Libby case self reported he was at the site. Did LE send a whole swat team to his house? Maybe they should have--but I digress. NO, they sent a DNR officer to interview.

This is just crazy the way this is being handled---media or no media.
they keep going off half cocked
 
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"Supposedly"???? Can you expound on that? Can you also define "really strange ties to the Middle East?What is your definition? Relatives there? Born there? Visited there? Travels there frequently and returns with Arabian tax returns??? Putting random people's names or initials on here and photos is just wayyyy off, IMO. Would you like the suspicion put on your family member when their name hasnt even been released by LE? I really do think that discretion is the better part of valor here. JMO..At this point, this person is becoming a victim himself. MOO
Too many posts like this—I came here looking for not gossip but that seems to be half the posts…
 
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IMO
Just understand this show of force is designed to show they are working as hard as they can as much as to say we have viable leads. Wish it was less show and more research since this again has been a nothing burger and probably another half million down the drain. I hope Tucson has a large tax base and flush coffers because this is going to be a line item impact on city budget.
And that sounds really tacky—but we all know crime solving has budget perimeters that influence the solve rate. Every victim doesn’t get this same level of involvement.
If this was primarily the FBI, the federal tax payer is footing the bill not the Tucson resident.
 
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I disagree. You have a tip and you send someone out to investigate the lead---you don't send 50 LE vehicles to the site. There have been many times they interviewed someone based on a tip and then followed them around. For instance, the perp in the Abby and Libby case self reported he was at the site. Did LE send a whole swat team to his house? Maybe they should have--but I digress. NO, they sent a DNR officer to interview.

This is just crazy the way this is being handled---media or no media.
If Abby and Libby were kidnapped and there was a possibility of still rescuing them alive, they would not have sent one guy out to do a knocker. They would have sent 50 LE and a whole swat team.
 
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