• #28,921
That's my question. How well do they vet and determine what is a reasonable lead? This is the second time. Talk about getting hopes up - imagine the Guthrie family last night.

This investigation costs money. A lot of money. I'm all for LE pursuing leads, but like you say - let's hope when they gather all the resources they did last night that it is - reasonable.

As far as the media "circus" people would complain if all aspects of this case wasn't being reported on. The media would be accused of "hiding information" and "not being transparent." People don't have to watch the media "circus." It is optional! The media can't help some viewers "breathlessly" speculate on what LE is doing. The media are doing their jobs.

jmo
IMO—some media is more about injecting themselves in the news cycle. I think Ashley B has done that and is sticking to her story because to say she put her foot in her mouth wouldn’t help her numbers. Reporting the news is one thing—getting too involved in the crime scene to be first with a news bite is something else—
IMO…
 
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I disagree. You have a tip and you send someone out to investigate the lead---you don't send 50 LE vehicles to the site. There have been many times they interviewed someone based on a tip and then followed them around. For instance, the perp in the Abby and Libby case self reported he was at the site. Did LE send a whole swat team to his house? Maybe they should have--but I digress. NO, they sent a DNR officer to interview.

This is just crazy the way this is being handled---media or no media.
LE deploys their SWAT team and mobile unit when they believe--based on the evidence they have--that they may have found NG's abductor. Leads and tips have to be backed up with solid evidence for the SWAT team to deploy. MOO
 
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That many cops for a lead and no arrests? I’m losing faith in this investigation.
Im very invested in this case but I told myself last night before I went to bed that if this was another failed bust up I had to walk away and I’m going to be doing that. I didn’t post anything last night but I still feel gross feeding from the media trough over of all of this. I really believed the raid last night was the end and the family would finally have some answers. Poor Nancy. Her children and family must be devastated, losing their minds with all these twists and turns. What a gut punch! I feel so bad for them. Unfortunately today marks 2 weeks. Life Goes on. I hope I’m wrong but I can’t see LEO/FBI maintaining this large of a presence much longer. There has been so much money, time, and resources, and man power on this case that it is supremely disappointing to know that no arrests were made last night. Prayers for Nancy and family. MOO

Thank you all for allowing me to be here and speak freely and engage in conversation. Mods please delete my account, I don’t know how to do it. Thank you ❤️☮️
 
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It almost seems as though LE feel pressure to act too quickly because of media eye on them.
From the beginning, LE has appeared to have discombobulated by the enormous amount of media attention. JMO
 
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yetIf this was primarily the FBI, the federal tax payer is footing the bill not the Tucson resident.
Yes—there will be separate balance sheets for each LE—and I guess most of the bill is the county sheriff’s office since NG house is in county not city limits.
My bad for being too general…I just meant there is a LOT of money being spent on this operation. And not all crimes can be investigated with the same level of financial support, unfortunately.
How good would AI do in case like this? Are we close to Minority Report era yet?
 
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If Abby and Libby were kidnapped and there was a possibility of still rescuing them alive, they would not have sent one guy out to do a knocker. They would have sent 50 LE and a whole swat team.
IIRC, Richard Allen self reported the next day. Were Abby and Libby found when he called or still missing?

I can't recall if initially they were considered just missing or abducted and if there is a difference on how LE handles missing, abducted or kidnapping cases?
 
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The ones that have a sympathetic or offbeat "angle". PREGNANT woman disappears, COED mass murder, CEO of company gets gunned down in Manhattan, PAGEANT child abducted from home, PRETTY blonde girl disappears from class trip, MOTHER OF CELEBRITY missing . Ransom notes definitely add to the intrigue Just the amount of crimes sleuthed here on WEBSLEUTHS vs the amount of national scrutiny given by the media to 1000's of missing people should tell us that this is also a ratings grabber for the networks and the length of this 24/7 almost exclusive coverage has become excessive. . and not discernibly productive. JMO

Nevermind. Misread.
 
  • #28,930
I'm not sure why people are so quick to say last night's police activity yielded nothing. They'll need time to process any evidence they gathered. Until then, they really shouldn't speculate on the value of what they may have found last night. Seems like a good time for us all to take a break and check back later.
Also a reminder that it’s only been 2 weeks…it feels like a long time (especially for the poor family) but in the grand scheme of investigations it’s really not.

In the meantime lets continue to pray, or send love and healing vibes whatever your preference, for NG and her family and for justice to be on its way.

moo
 
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I'm not sure why people are so quick to say last night's police activity yielded nothing. They'll need time to process any evidence they gathered. Until then, they really shouldn't speculate on the value of what they may have found last night. Seems like a good time for us all to take a break and check back later.
BBM
I think we all will be getting a break today for thread clean up. IMO 🙃
 
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Also a reminder that it’s only been 2 weeks…it feels like a long time (especially for the poor family) but in the grand scheme of investigations it’s really not.

In the meantime lets continue to pray, or send love and healing vibes whatever your preference, for NG and her family and for justice to be on its way.

moo
It is a long time when this is still a rescue mission involving an 84 yo woman. Not just an investigation to catch a perp.
 
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The home/crime scene was released back to family originally within a few days after the disappearance wasn’t it? That means any new evidence found after that cannot be considered real evidence. It could have been planted to incriminate someone.
Again—just speculation that the DNA is in any way related to the actual taking of NG…
And yes—IMO—the house was released to the family too soon—should have been locked down for much longer in the event that other information coming out might have required a further search. The area WAS compromised apparently during the initial investigation and later so I have no idea how “trustworthy” of the evidence gathered might prove if any case goes to trial and is challenged by a defense team.
 
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wow, how extraordinary, all that time and effort for naught, LE seem to be going nowhere,
 
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BBM
I think we all will be getting a break today for thread clean up. IMO 🙃
For a bunch of “sleuthers” a lot of people don’t seem to have bothered “researching” the rules of the site.
 
  • #28,937
I wonder what the real perp(s) are thinking ...sitting back...watching all this unfold.

moo
I think they’re feeling really good right about now. I don’t mean to seem tough on LE and FBI but this is really a mess.
 
  • #28,938
It is a long time when this is still a rescue mission involving an 84 yo woman. Not just an investigation to catch a perp.
who needs medication regularly not just to maintain her health but to help with her pain, plus she possibly needs to have a certain type of diet for her heart condition and she is unlikely to be getting any of these things
 
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It is a long time when this is still a rescue mission involving an 84 yo woman. Not just an investigation to catch a perp.
Yes—like a disaster relief mission goes from search and recovery of survivors to simply RECOVERY phase…
 
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The link doesn't work
I have posted the youtube video. I follow Brian entin on X . He posted this same video on X and youtube . I will go remove broken link.
 
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