Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SMK777]

The text in SG's post says "find a way to reach out to ME". I agree that it's interesting.

I wonder if investigators told her to say this because they have evidence of or reason to believe that the crime was indeed personal and passionate and aimed at SG--

OR

if it's just a profile or theory they've come up with.

I wonder why the FBI hasn't released a criminal profile. Maybe they have, just not to media and public.

 

[NothingToSeeHere]

I’ve been having a bad feeling about SG leaving Tucson for New York. IF there was some deranged fan/erotomania behind this, he was very successful in getting her undivided attention and physical presence in his back yard, so to speak, and now he will be “losing” her again. Will he escalate further? Thinking about Rebecca Schaeffer, Sandra Bullock, Amie Harwick, and so many others who have experienced that kind of obsession and that it seems to rarely just go away. I hope and pray she and her family will have every possible protection going forward until he is caught.

 

[submarine7]

My point is who would take the risk to help someone abducting or hurting NG for personal reasons? Highly unlikely. There has to be gain for all participants, if there are more than one.

I know it's a totally different but pointing out the two boys who killed their Spanish teacher in a park a few years ago. You never know if a friend would help.

 

[Gemmie]

The FBI has reportedly made the decision to pull almost all of the agents assigned to the Nancy Guthrie case out of Tucson and return them to the agency's Phoenix headquarters—amid rumors that the missing 84-year-old's daughter, "Today" host Savannah Guthrie, is preparing to leave Arizona and fly home to New York.

https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/nancy-guthrie-home-fbi-search-update-missing/

 

[Moonchime]

Can you post the link to her video

Here you go. Her guest will walk her through the video, and it becomes quite clear that there is another person.

 

[submarine7]

The FBI has reportedly made the decision to pull almost all of the agents assigned to the Nancy Guthrie case out of Tucson and return them to the agency's Phoenix headquarters—amid rumors that the missing 84-year-old's daughter, "Today" host Savannah Guthrie, is preparing to leave Arizona and fly home to New York.

https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/nancy-guthrie-home-fbi-search-update-missing/

I think for her it's the best thing she can do. It would be such torture just sitting and waiting.

 

[submarine7]

Here you go. Her guest will walk her through the video, and it becomes quite clear that there is another person.

There is definitely a second person. That light saber looking light is separate from PG.
Edit: it almost looks like it's coming from the door.

 

[Cryptic]

I've really hated all the gossip about whether she will or not, who might replace her if she doesn't, and even whether a rival colleague might be involved.

Unless the gossip irresponsibly named a particular rival, I don't think speculating about rival colleagues is anymore "hateful" than speculating that the individual could be domestic help, or a tradesman who noticed a picture or googled a name.

The police have evidently DNA tested the immediate domestic help, and could be working their way through closely associated tradesmen, and then more distantly associated tradesmen (providing they can be identified). Rival colleagues are just as viable as suspects as tradesmen and domestic helpers and need the same DNA test .

SG has been out competing rivals over many years to arrive at the national level the same way NFL football players have.

As with NFL verse minor league football, the pay difference between major league, national level journalists and out competed minor league rivals who stayed at the local stations is likely vast. Likewise, the pay gap between a "starter" major league anchor and a "back up/ "second string"" anchor at the same station might be significant as well.

In the end, rival colleagues can have plenty of motivation in regards to jealousy and cash. Hoping I don't sound too shrill, but rival colleagues can make as good a pool of suspects as the pool guys. They just dress more stylish for work.

 

[Silverstorm]

I've always thought that if I were to commit a crime, I would definitely be done in by leaving dog hair at the scene.

LOL! me too!

 

[diggndeeperstill]

The text in SG's post says "find a way to reach out to ME". I agree that it's interesting.

Thank you for pointing that out! I was multitasking and totally typed that wrong! Corrected now! Yes, ME is strange!

That one thing could lead me to believe she feels it’s someone stalking her. Or I suppose someone that doesn’t trust LE.

 

[kevin1000]

If it isn't financial, how would that tie in with the ransom requests?

The perp did not count on 1. NG bleeding to help us determine exit pathway 2. NG pacemaker disconnect to tell us time of departure 3. Video footage at front door 4.NG being missed early the next day. If we did not have this evidence, wouldn't it seem like she might have wandered off or disappeared? Was this the perp's intent? Did he want us to be more uncertain of the crime timing -- a delay in action. Even the weeds on the camera might have been used because he did not want to show damage evidence at the door. IMO a standard grab would have involved a lot more broken glass, crowbar use, a prepared camera disable etc
We don't know (other than the timing) how the ransom requests are directly connected to the guy who did the abduction. The ransom request perp (deceptive and smart) doesn't seem to match the abduction perp on video. IMO

 

[cherryleaf]

I do hope someone in LE is watching livestreams or they have something set up to view though. There have been many instances that I’ve seen people more than once on multiple streams that do not live close to Nancy. Just walking around or speaking to the media. The last batch of the 2 people doing the photoshoot a few days ago was sickening to me. Leather outfits and everything. I watched all of it live. I’m all for freedom of speech and expression, whatever ..it was highly inappropriate and attention seeking imo. I took all kinds of screen shots. I can’t post them because it’s not from an approved stream. The couples vehicle was also a dark gray Kia crossover with black rims. Im not implying anything it just made my eyes almost pop out of my head. I wanted to post about this days ago but didn’t because all I had were screen shots. Here’s an actual link .

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/200590/nancy-guthrie-chaos-couple-photoshoot

 

[submarine7]

I do hope someone in LE is watching livestreams though. There have been many instances that I’ve seen people more than once on multiple streams that do not live close to Nancy. Just walking around or speaking to the media. The last batch of the 2 people doing the photoshoot a few days ago was sickening to me. Leather outfits and everything. I watched all of it live. I’m all for freedom of speech and expression, whatever ..but it was very very inappropriate and attention seeking imo. I took all kinds of screen shots. I can’t post them because it’s not from an approved stream. The couples vehicle was also a dark gray Kia crossover with black rims. Im not implying anything it just made my eyes almost pop out of my head. I wanted to post about this days ago but didn’t because all I had were screen shots. Here’s an actual link .

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/200590/nancy-guthrie-chaos-couple-photoshoot

Super freaks

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

The perp did not count on 1. NG bleeding to help us determine exit pathway 2. NG pacemaker disconnect to tell us time of departure 3. Video footage at front door 4.NG being missed early the next day. If we did not have this evidence, wouldn't it seem like she might have wandered off or disappeared? Was this the perp's intent? Did he want us to be more uncertain of the crime timing -- a delay in action. Even the weeds on the camera might have been used because he did not want to show damage evidence at the door. IMO a standard grab would have involved a lot more broken glass, crowbar use, a prepared camera disable etc
We don't know (other than the timing) how the ransom requests are directly connected to the guy who did the abduction. The ransom request perp (deceptive and smart) doesn't seem to match the abduction perp on video. IMO

@kevin1000 -- very interesting idea here I hadn't thought of. That if all had gone according to plan (no blood, no door cam video) it may have looked as if NG wandered off. There would be no sign of an abduction. So that would only fit with murder or robbery, not a kidnapping. Right?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Really really good points… I’m hoping LE have more than we do, but wow what a benefit those things are to the timeline.

Are we going to see any more video? If not, is that because it’s not recovered or just not shown to us?

Has anyone FOIA’d the actual 911 call?

The perp did not count on 1. NG bleeding to help us determine exit pathway 2. NG pacemaker disconnect to tell us time of departure 3. Video footage at front door 4.NG being missed early the next day. If we did not have this evidence, wouldn't it seem like she might have wandered off or disappeared? Was this the perp's intent? Did he want us to be more uncertain of the crime timing -- a delay in action. Even the weeds on the camera might have been used because he did not want to show damage evidence at the door. IMO a standard grab would have involved a lot more broken glass, crowbar use, a prepared camera disable etc
We don't know (other than the timing) how the ransom requests are directly connected to the guy who did the abduction. The ransom request perp (deceptive and smart) doesn't seem to match the abduction perp on video. IMO

 

[VegasGirl35]

AG/TC

The kind of anti-social eccentric guy who is a loner and feels inadequate wouldn't likely be the type who would have an accomplish. But, we don't know. MOO

I agree, although interestingly enough, that type explains perfectly why they've had no luck with the reward. Lone assailant, no friends or family to notice absences or erratic behavior. That vibes more with the stalker theory rather than Nancy being targeted for money.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I agree. There’s something familiar about the way he moves. And that belt buckle touch!! Now where have I seen that before??

The big difference is that this guy is walking quickly in the courthouse video, whereas porch-guy moves much slower. Wonder what his usual gait is?

Has it ever been known if the video speed of perp walking toward the door was slowed down at all by FBI, or was it at normal speed?

Edited for clarity

 

[SMK777]

Perp plans attack and buys disguise and PPE. Disables ring doorbell and uses plant to obscure. Enters house..meets resistance from NG and roughs her up. He doesnt know she's on blood thinners and she probably starts bleeding all over the interior. He rifles through some things in the house looking for "souvenirs". Possibly leaves a ransom note there too. Subdues, NG and carried her out the front door where more bleeding occurs. Throws her in trunk of the car and sends emails with instructions to outlets. Those are his manifestos. We don't know the full contents.. Ransom was a distraction. all IMO.

1. What sort of "souvenirs", and why?

2. Why would LE hold back on a ransom note left within the home? So only the suspect would be able to supply that information?

3. Why was the ransom only a distraction? From what main motive? In your opinion?

 

[OldPueblo]

Unless the gossip irresponsibly named a particular rival, I don't think speculating about rival colleagues is anymore "hateful" than speculating that the individual could be domestic help, or a tradesman who noticed a picture or googled a name.

The police have evidently DNA tested the immediate domestic help, and could be working their way through closely associated tradesmen, and then more distantly associated tradesmen (providing they can be identified). Rival colleagues are just as viable as suspects as tradesmen and domestic helpers and need the same DNA test .

SG has been out competing rivals over many years to arrive at the national level the same way NFL football players have.

As with NFL verse minor league football, the pay difference between major league, national level journalists and out competed minor league rivals who stayed at the local stations is likely vast. Likewise, the pay gap between a "starter" major league anchor and a "back up/ "second string"" anchor at the same station might be significant as well.

In the end, rival colleagues can have plenty of motivation in regards to jealousy and cash. Hoping I don't sound too shrill, but rival colleagues can make as good a pool of suspects as the pool guys. They just dress more stylish for work.

Fair enough. But I can still hate it, and it goes against my gut here.

 

[submarine7]

This source discusses offender and victim relationship among other crime statistics. I think the stats on body removal are interesting. It says that when a offender preplans the crime and body disposal, that 50% of bodies are found on the perps property. If no pre-planning was involved that number drops significantly, and the offender's neighborhood becomes the most common spot for unplanned disposal.

Body Disposal in Homicide

Body disposal sites are the most objective crime scene locations available because they represent the last known whereabouts of the victim.

www.crime-scene-investigator.net