Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[vagab0nd]

I’m speculating here, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask whether this could be connected to Epstein’s network. The timing, the visibility, and the target all stand out. Maybe it’s coincidence — but given what we know about how intimidation has worked in the past, I don’t think the question itself is out of bounds.

 

[tkcrockett]

I think they should say "movement detected at 2:12 and aren't sure if it is a person or animal" - just my opinon

But still, if camera is off line at 1:47, what detected movement at 2:12??

 

[UsernameRequired]

I have a DVR with 8 cameras that IS NOT linked to the cloud via the subscription.

However, it stores about 10 days worth of 4K video and then rewrites overtop of the oldest. I didn't want the cost of monthly subscription but wanted the ability to review it if anything happened in the neighborhood. And boy, we've have several incidents over the last 8 years we've had it .. of which 2 were used as evidence by the police. (car theft, hit and run on a parked car)

I ASSUMED that ring cameras all connected to the web for storage.

Would the perpetrator have inside knowledge that the camera WAS NOT CONNECTED to the cloud? I mean, you would be seen smashing it if it was and smashing it would do no good at all.

Nest battery cams without a subscription have only a 3 hour cloud storage limit, then it overwrites.

 

[arielilane]

It's too bad the sheriff does not end presser. LE owe nothing further to media. Let LE do their job. jmo

 

[Curiousobserver]

Reposting because I rewatched and adjusted some times I didn't hear correctly

Saturday
5:32pm- Nancy goes to dinner (takes an Uber, driver has been identified and interviewed)
9:48pm- Garage door opens indicating drop off
9:50pm- Garage door closes

Sunday
1:47AM- Doorbell cam goes offline
2:12AM Person Detected, no video because no subscription
2:28AM Pacemaker disconnects
11:56AM Family checks on her
12:03PM 911 Call

Perp was there at least 41 minutes...

Family called 911 almost right away after arriving...

 

[Alkali13]

Yea, as soon as I saw that "laid in wait" Same.

Plus sneaking in the garage. And removing the body. Ugh.

 

[tlcya]

Somebody needs to tell the sheriff less is more, that it's okay to say I don't have that information handy or I can't speak to that. I sympathize. He has been thrust into the case that immediately within hours had national attention. He is probably exhausted. But yeah, less is more. It shouldn't take two minutes to say yes, no, or I don't know, or I cannot answer that for each of these questions, many of which are repetitive. JM own observation.

 

[UltraViolet4545]

The longer this goes on, the likelihood of it being random increases. The people closest to NG are being scrutinized sooo intensely. The best and brightest minds, the most current tech, huge manpower… it’s being devoted to this case. They will find the person responsible but it might take some time to hone in on the right person. They are pouring over huge amounts of data and information right now.

IMO.

 

[MesquiteO21]

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it's interesting that they are leaving that gap from 2:28 to 11:56 since it's been reported that church members supposedly got in touch with family around 11....

moo

 

[Roadette]

Many people are in the habit of using their garage as their entry. For some reason, my husband never uses the front door.
It's likely a long acquired habit.

I’ve noticed that oftentimes these same people don’t lock the garage door. I’ve had numerous fights with certain family members of a similar age that have stayed with me and would enter the key code just out in the open and walk into the door they left unlocked. I got a new device where they are given their own key code that I can turn off and on as-needed to reduce the risk to my own belongings. Less drama than telling family members they can’t stay or must use a hide-a-key given my other security system’s capabilities.

Edited to remove how it actually works so I don’t post my actual process on a public forum.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Had the same thought. That's a long time to do nothing other than abduct her....

I also wonder about the time frame between "doorbell cam goes offline" and "person detected."

So someone disabled the doorbell cam and then took several minutes to enter the house, possibly through a different door, where their movement was detected (but not saved due to no subscription)? Does this imply multiple cameras, not just the doorbell one? Or did the doorbell cam detect movement even after it was deactivated?

it said person.....? Animals look like animals on the cameras.

I have Blink cameras and a large/tall animal such as a deer is often labelled a person by that software. That said, I think there is 0% chance this was a non-human animal. MOO

 

[whitelilac]

can't talk about any clean up attempts afterwards

 

[Leilei]

Good question about whether there was evidence of someone trying to clean up the crime scene or destroy evidence.
Wish he could have answered it, but I understand why he couldn't.
IMO.

 

[thref23]

A camera needs to be online to report movement and record video to the cloud, however it doesn't need to be online to detect movement, just needs power

 

[tkcrockett]

I’m probably just misunderstanding how the tech works but if a camera is offline then how did it detect movement?

Yes!

 

[Maat99]

I completely agree - I wish someone there would realize this and ask for clarification because it isn’t making sense to me at all… and seems like a fairly important aspect of the timeline

Maybe there was a phone alert for activity detected by the camera but the actual video was not retained.

 

[Megnut]

But still, if camera is off line at 1:47, what detected movement at 2:12??

Guessing two different cameras, disconnected separately.

JMO

 

[cady]

I don't think it's strange for anyone to enter their home through their garage when they drive and park in the garage etc. But it does seem a bit odd to me for the garage to be opened and then closed 2 mins later if she's only being dropped off. Could be nothing but seems a bit odd to me. IMO

sounds like she entered the house through the garage....was opened, she was dropped off, and closed. ???? She had the opener on her key fob so she opened it for family to pull in and drop her off then leave and she closed the door???

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

My FIL is 85 and super tech savvy and with it. He would NEVER let us drive him around and he Ubers all the time. He’s very proud and a bit feisty. I don’t think you can judge any child’s relationship with their elderly relatives - NG isn’t AG’s child.

Who knows? They may have been getting ready for their weekly Mahjong. Maybe, they were hosting dinner for more than just NG.

P.S. I admire your FIL!

JMO.

 

[Curiousobserver]

it's interesting that they are leaving that gap from 2:28 to 11:56 since it's been reported that church members supposedly got in touch with family around 11....

moo

They mentioned the exact time the garage door closed, but not the time the phone call was made to alert family. It is a notable omission