Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SMK777]

 

[pitbull]

BTC. Bitcoin.

(Quote edited by me)

The original note asked for 6 million USD.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Excellent reporting by Brian, Maureen and Jim. Interesting too about the neighbors pup, they’re so smart.

I agree, could very well be how the perp(s) came into contact and knew Nancy was vulnerable and prime for a targeted robbery. I still firmly believe that if it had been just a random B&E, they would have taken the stuff and gotten the heck out of Dodge ASAP. They were in the home for 42 minutes, that's a long time.

They would have left Nancy there at the home, even if they had to incapacitate her to some degree. She was certainly no threat to them unless she knew them (recognized their voice, mannerisms, etc.), but even then, she didn't have to be taken from the home to un-alive her. Why risk taking her hostage and the bizarre ransom demands??

Still hoping against hope for this dear woman and strength and answers for the Guthrie family.

#Justice4Nancy

JMO

 

[hot cawfeee]

I *love* that the sheriff said that LE/PCSO is monitoring "hundreds of thousands of cars..."

One other thing re: Everyone's many questions pertaining to *how* NG got out the door. I work a retail side gig with many strong co-workers, yet none of them  ever just toss 150 lbs of anything over their shoulders! Not! 50, 60, 75 lbs maaaaaaybe, but certainly not 150!

Also, based on various blood spatter experts, it would seem likely that, IF NG left her house alive, then she probably was upright when leaving (I myself know nothing regarding blood spatter or its angles, etc.). As someone (@SlimPickens, perhaps?) posited, it's possible that NG's abductors "begrudgingly" (great word choice here!) may have offered her assistance in leaving the house, thus, she could have been walking upright between them, albeit slowly.

Among other things left at her house, NG's hearing aids and  cane were left there, so it seems (operative word) unlikely that Nancy was leaving while using her cane.

All of this MOO.

PS Question for everyone: How many here who think this was an abduction case think it's possible that NG's abductors spent part of their time in the house searching for (or demanding) certain documents -- say, NG's will, POA, living trust, life insurance policy (have no idea which of these that Nancy may have had, so am just tossing a few options out here)? Please share your thoughts on this possibility (crazy as it may seem), and how you came to this conclusion. TIA.

jumping in.......I had wondered that myself...How did NG get out of the house ? She's 150 pounds and if unconscious or immobilized would be "dead weight" or if she was struggling also harder to move. That leads me to think two perps with a vehicle close by

 

[SMK777]

jumping in.......I had wondered that myself...How did NG get out of the house ? She's 150 pounds and if unconscious or immobilized would be "dead weight" or if she was struggling also harder to move. That leads me to think two perps with a vehicle close by

Same.

 

[korncrasy]

That does seem odd, but maybe they thought the dog was alerting to some sort of animal, which they hoped to videotape? Though if it was a dangerous animal, might not be a good idea to go out.

Or maybe they just wanted to tape the dog itself, acting strangely... Maybe they're the sort of people who are always on their phone to videotape everything.

(Unless they didn't videotape the dog after all, but instead pulled surveillance video of the dog. But that would have had to have happened at a different time than the glitch in their surveillance video. Very confusing.)

JMO

Maybe it was this Jan 11th date that keeps getting thrown around.I haven’t watched the video.

 

[cherryleaf]

How many people are really up at 2:00am?

The dog allegedly woke them up I’m one of those people that could have been awake. I have insomnia, and there’s times my dogs have woke me. I’m one of those people that’s once I’m up, I’m up. It’s very difficult for me to go back to sleep. Had that been my house next to Nancy’s with the dog I would have been up for the rest of the night, which is somewhat frightening and very sad because I most likely wouldn’t have heard or seen anything given the distance if I was inside. Unless she screamed or there was a racket being made or something like that I wouldn’t have even thought something was going on at my neighbors. Now if I took my dog out and it just kept barking at something, yes I would try to figure out what they were barking at ( to get them to stop) and unless I saw someone or something strange I’d probably think it was a javalina or other critter and just figure the dog ran it off.

 

[wibbleflea]

Perhaps the neighbors dog was reacting to the high-frequency "sounds" of a wi-fi jammer nearby?

Wi-Fi jammers emit electromagnetic radiation. It can't be heard. Dogs don't hear Wi-Fi, visible light, microwave transmissions, infrared or ultraviolet – all examples of electromagnetic radiation.

The electronics of the device itself may emit some kind of high-frequency noise, as a result of poor design – some electronic devices do. More likely (I think) that the dog detected sound from whatever was going on, or the unfamiliar smell of the intruder.

I agree with everyone here who found it unusual that the owners would record video the dog at that time(!), which they apparently showed to Brian Entin but didn't send to him. Noteworthy.

 

[whatzthebuzz]

Until BE and AB's latest vids discussing the signal jammers I was thinking it was a portable scanner, to listen out for police activity potentially coming to the area.

JMO

 

[Sadi]

I find it interesting that when LM approaches the front door, he doesn’t seem to check whether it’s unlocked, which is something I’d normally expect a robber to do. It’s also interesting that he doesn’t appear concerned at all that Nancie might actually have heard him and be on the phone with 911 while he’s casually standing at the front door trying to cover and remove the door camera. I wonder if that suggests that maybe there was someone else already inside the home.

Good questions.

 

[wibbleflea]

The original note asked for 6 million USD.

People who buy and sell crypto and follow crypto prices will often (almost always) talk about USD. Most crypto charts and tables intended for the US will show BTC and USD. Example from Yahoo Finance:

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BTC-USD/

 

[SMK777]

People who buy and sell crypto and follow crypto prices will often (almost always) talk about USD. Most crypto charts and tables intended for the US will show BTC and USD. Example from Yahoo Finance:

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BTC-USD/

Yes, I always thought it was normal protocol to request USD.

 

[wibbleflea]

I find it interesting that when LM approaches the front door, he doesn’t seem to check whether it’s unlocked, which is something I’d normally expect a robber to do. It’s also interesting that he doesn’t appear concerned at all that Nancie might actually have heard him and be on the phone with 911 while he’s casually standing at the front door trying to cover and remove the door camera. I wonder if that suggests that maybe there was someone else already inside the home.

Possible. Also possible that he knew that he'd only be leaving through the front door, not entering through it.

 

[maskedwoman]

Another young man in Texas recently sentenced after a December 2024 wrench attack home invasion. Two more face charges:

Man sentenced to 45 years in cryptocurrency home invasion

The wrench attack theory was posited early on in the thread. I've felt that this has a high likelihood of being the motive. Would explain the blood if they demanded she give them access to her Bitcoin wallet and she didn't/couldn't, and it would explain the specific amount if that's the amount they knew she had - or their handler told them she had.

Obviously at 84 years old she probably didn't know how to access it so perhaps they leveraged her for someone who they thought did? SG probably manages NG's finances, or has an advisor manage her portfolio for her, and so he/she probably invested a bit in Bitcoin since it has been all the stock market rage the past few years.

JMO.

Have we had any indication that she has crypto of any kind? I mean, maybe the perps assumed she had it, but we don't know that either. Her husband has been dead for 40 years, and she had to support herself and her children until retirement, with not tons of time to build a nest egg, so this assumption that she's very well off could be quite mistaken.

All her in home care/assistance is very expensive even if she has a long term care policy. Obviously, Savannah can help her if she needs it, but if she's independent, she may be trying to avoid that.

I can't imagine a woman nearing the end of her life, and possibly her money, putting any significant amount of it in something like crypto. MOO

 

[pitbull]

Yes, I always thought it was normal protocol to request USD.

In a ransom note???!!!

 

[Napoli]

PS Question for everyone: How many here who think this was an abduction case think it's possible that NG's abductors spent part of their time in the house searching for (or demanding) certain documents -- say, NG's will, POA, living trust, life insurance policy (have no idea which of these that Nancy may have had, so am just tossing a few options out here)? Please share your thoughts on this possibility (crazy as it may seem), and how you came to this conclusion. TIA.

Good post! Snipped by me. Documents can be anywhere. IMO, some of those mentioned are probably in a safe in her attorney's office or in a safe deposit box. IMO, possession of documents was not the object here. Home is in a revocable living trust. How does one get access to that? She, as trustee, can change the documents but they have to be listed on the land records and insurance policies as to the entity that owns the property. If there are successor trustees, and she is unable to make decisions or has passed and that can be PROVEN then the wheels start rolling.

Atm cards etc are nuts because you just cant get that much money out of your account on any given day. One of my banks limits it to 1200 in cash per day. Plus, every FBI agent is watching all of her accounts for any withdrawals or suspicious activity. And then the perp is going to have to suit up in his kidnap finest so he's not recognizable on bank security cameras. So, that's out. JMO

 

[Sadi]

I *love* that the sheriff said that LE/PCSO is monitoring "hundreds of thousands of cars..."

One other thing re: Everyone's many questions pertaining to *how* NG got out the door. I work a retail side gig with many strong co-workers, yet none of them  ever just toss 150 lbs of anything over their shoulders! Not! 50, 60, 75 lbs maaaaaaybe, but certainly not 150!

Also, based on various blood spatter experts, it would seem likely that, IF NG left her house alive, then she probably was upright when leaving (I myself know nothing regarding blood spatter or its angles, etc.). As someone (@SlimPickens, perhaps?) posited, it's possible that NG's abductors "begrudgingly" (great word choice here!) may have offered her assistance in leaving the house, thus, she could have been walking upright between them, albeit slowly.

Among other things left at her house, NG's hearing aids and  cane were left there, so it seems (operative word) unlikely that Nancy was leaving while using her cane.

All of this MOO.

PS Question for everyone: How many here who think this was an abduction case think it's possible that NG's abductors spent part of their time in the house searching for (or demanding) certain documents -- say, NG's will, POA, living trust, life insurance policy (have no idea which of these that Nancy may have had, so am just tossing a few options out here)? Please share your thoughts on this possibility (crazy as it may seem), and how you came to this conclusion. TIA.

Maybe they wanted her to produce financial statements (savings/bonds etc.)? Open a safe, if she has one and take whatever is inside of value? Why? Because they would demand the money/valuables for her life. MOO

 

[Sadi]

Maybe it was this Jan 11th date that keeps getting thrown around.I haven’t watched the video.

The date wasn’t mentioned, but that would be a good possibility.

 

[Trino]

The dog allegedly woke them up I’m one of those people that could have been awake. I have insomnia, and there’s times my dogs have woke me. I’m one of those people that’s once I’m up, I’m up. It’s very difficult for me to go back to sleep. Had that been my house next to Nancy’s with the dog I would have been up for the rest of the night, which is somewhat frightening and very sad because I most likely wouldn’t have heard or seen anything given the distance if I was inside. Unless she screamed or there was a racket being made or something like that I wouldn’t have even thought something was going on at my neighbors. Now if I took my dog out and it just kept barking at something, yes I would try to figure out what they were barking at ( to get them to stop) and unless I saw someone or something strange I’d probably think it was a javalina or other critter and just figure the dog ran it off.

Most likely persons who lived in Catalina Foothills were over-confident in their security, never thinking someone would actually enter a home in the middle of the night or even be on private property.

 

[SMK777]

In a ransom note???!!!

It's just a formality. Because typically when you send or receive money you put USD or whatever currency you are using.