AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Aquabot13]

Then how'd she get the garage door open?
Auto Garage door opener?
Easier to carry a key.

Couple options come to mind:
- an app (I've never seen this but it seems that this is common for newer doors/systems)
- if "family" drove her home in her car after borrowing it, the opener would be in the car
- a keypad (this is what I have - you enter a code to open the door and then close it using the button inside)
- "family" who drove her home had their own opener

I think the app or keypad is most likely, IMO, since she would have needed to close the garage door on her way out to the uber if she left that way.

MOO

 

[Emerald1328]

Surely she had someone that came in and cleaned. Baseboards are very very difficult to clean when you're not agile....so are blinds, carpets and floors.

Wait…you’re supposed to clean your baseboards? And blinds? Oh.

 

[emigrate]

And do we (i.e. - You all) know if she actually ever made it into the house after being "dropped off"?

rsbm.

AFAIK there is zero independent confirmation that she ever made it back to her house. Period.

moo.

So the watch could have linked up with pacemaker how? I am so behind lol

 

[Cardgame]

The trick would be to get her across the US border into Mexico.

A US passport or passport card is needed if she was a visible passenger. There would be cameras and video that LE could retrieve.

Risky, though. US CPB have the authority to examine vehicles crossing into Mexico, looking for cash, guns, etc. and a white panel van would probably at least be opened. If it was a passenger car, then she could have been in the trunk. All scenarios pretty horrible to think about.

There are 3 border crossings that would be reasonable from Tucson:

Nogales, MAJOR border crossing, 70 miles from Tucson, 1 hour 10 minute drive
Naco, very minor border crossing, 108 miles from Tucson, 2 hour drive
Douglas, very minor border crossing, 123 miles from Tucson, 2 hour 15 minute drive.

Of course, at ~ 3 am, there would be far less road and border traffic. I think this idea of crossing into Mexico is certainly worth pursing.

The border patrol guy in the Brian entin link just posted above also says that this close to the border, even in Arizona, you can obtain prescription medicines easily under the counter.

 

[muddlehead]

But why must there be a 100 posts about it? It gives TDS vibes.

The vibes appear to be self drawn
Not many believe anything remotely secret would be shared with ...

 

[CSIDreamer]

The trick would be to get her across the US border into Mexico.

A US passport or passport card is needed if she was a visible passenger. There would be cameras and video that LE could retrieve.

Risky, though. US CPB have the authority to examine vehicles crossing into Mexico, looking for cash, guns, etc. and a white panel van would probably at least be opened. If it was a passenger car, then she could have been in the trunk. All scenarios pretty horrible to think about.

There are 3 border crossings that would be reasonable from Tucson:

Nogales, MAJOR border crossing, 70 miles from Tucson, 1 hour 10 minute drive
Naco, very minor border crossing, 108 miles from Tucson, 2 hour drive
Douglas, very minor border crossing, 123 miles from Tucson, 2 hour 15 minute drive.

Of course, at ~ 3 am, there would be far less road and border traffic. I think this idea of crossing into Mexico is certainly worth pursing.

What if they flew in a private plane? JMO

 

[tbgo]

If the perp smashed the flood lights maybe there are finger prints.

 

[MommaV]

You mean someone who knew inside details of the case, ie a journalist, could be responsible for sending the ransom note?

It was my reply to Cardgames response from original post.

“The top hit I get is investigative reporters and media journalist.”

 

[Bluewing3102]

Is it too high off the ground to hit with your fists? Would you need a ladder?
Would a thrown rock be heavy enough to cause this damage?
A baseball bat might work?

It looks like someone dunked on it like a basketball hoop. That would explain the damage to the brick itself around where the mounting hardware would be.

JMO

 

[turaj]

He also said that IHO (in his opinion?!) the perp's connection to SG came through his being local, eg someone who knows of NG and that she lives in a big house and has a famous daughter, rather than that SG is the target. Nancy is the target. MOO.

as has been said so many times..SG has been very open about her hometown of Tucson and her mother who still lives there. I think many locals know NG and of her famous daughter. NG is the target because of her famous wealthy daughter.

 

[serenebee23]

Why would NG enter her home via the garage and not the front door? This has been bothering me. The entire garage situation is bothering g me.

Probably convenience. Me and my family always enter through our garage, even when being dropped off. Going in our front door is a pain, and I'm not even sure i have a key to it on my key ring. We just use our garage keypad. Or I can grab a garage door opener and bring it with me. We put our shoes and jackets in the garage too so as to not get dirt everywhere in the house. So that doesn't strike me as odd, especially if she had mobility issues.

 

[su5ie]

Bingo

Did somebody really want that Olympics gig

 

[clearskies1]

He's saying the perpetrator has a connection to KOLD news station. I'm not familiar with local news in the US - is there any connection between this station and SG / Today show?

I'm not really buying that. It's easy to look up a Tucson news station. JMO.

 

[birdbox]

The name of SIL's band was Early Black and their released album was titled "Life Love Love Murder" Here is link to his bands songs on SoundCloud if interested. Not sure if they are still active or not. Just thought maybe look at band mates. Who knows? Another angle. Everyone's a suspect until they aren't according to the sherrif, right? 10 Early Black Apocalypse Close To Home Lifelovelovemurder

 

[JoeFromLB]

If everyone in the family is a suspect, wouldn't LE be conducting some surveillance of one or more of these folks?
I mean, we've got the sheriff's, the FBI, and supposedly the full resources of state and federal government working overtime on this high profile case, yet it remains a deep mystery.

 

[Sadi]

OK someone mentioned AG being a jeweler. Honestly, I would doubt she is "that jeweler", she looks like someone selling her stuff on Etsy, but who knows...

But: Annual Tucson Gem and Mineral shows take place from mid-January to late February, with all pre- and post-shows, and of course, not only vendors come but also, lots of scammers and thieves do. The internet dramas I remember following were usually about someone stealing rough, but what do i know? It is a market-based field with all negative sides of it.

One thing that is important: this industry has been using bitcoins since they emerged.

The show is still running, if I am not mistaken. So I wonder if someone could make a connection with the cryptocurrency group?

I don't suspect AG. In fact, I think she is as innocent as other kids of NG. I am just thinking that Tucson may be full of people from different parts of the world for whom crypto is the norm. This year gold and silver are up, so people may be making less.

I’m trying to think about other things LE removed from their home that would be relevant to this case. Did N have any clothing there? Their financial records and statements? I mentioned tools and other things earlier, but what else did they take away from? For DNA, could be a brush, toothbrush, but those are small things, not necessary to need several big bins.

 

[MommaV]

Then how'd she get the garage door open?
Auto Garage door opener?
Easier to carry a key.

EDIT Someone above said keypad.
Yikes
That doesn't seem secure

Could even be programmed to SIL/daughters car. I had my parents programmed to my car to use when I’d visit, check on them, pick up or drop them off since they too never used the front door and did not have a key pad.

 

[academyrd]

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My theory. Speculation only.

Persons close to Nancy Guthrie who were in dire financial difficulties concocted a hare-brained and desperate plan to hire pro criminals to kidnap her, forcing a wealthy relative to pay the ransom.

They were assured the old lady would be treated well and merely spend a couple of days watching TV in Mexico until the ransom was paid.

Instead, the kidnappers botched the job and Nancy lost her life during the abduction.

The kidnappers continue to issue demands, despite no longer having her alive, and the people who hired them are left holding the bag.

Nancy will likely never be seen or found again.

This is along the lines of where I am. I am thinking NG cut them out of her will or was planning to do so. I think they were counting on this money as neither has high paying or even medium paying jobs. For the siblings you’ve got a fighter pilot, a famous news anchor, and a…. poet? A poet married to a teacher? That type of disparity sticks out to me… what were they doing? How did they live? How much resentment did that cause over the years and some kind of money disagreement with NG could have been the last straw.

 

[Cardgame]

as has been said so many times..SG has been very open about her hometown of Tucson and her mother who still lives there. I think many locals know NG and of her famous daughter. NG is the target because of her famous wealthy daughter.

Yes I believe that's what I just said.

 

[auburnmomof2]

This case is driving me crazy yall!! Surely they are closing in on Nancy's location and what happened right? I refuse to even look at this case on social media because I know there's going to be speculation and randomness!
Few cases have ever had me feeling so helpless!
Anyone else struggling with this too?