• #9,621
If the perp smashed the flood lights maybe there are finger prints.
 
  • #9,622
You mean someone who knew inside details of the case, ie a journalist, could be responsible for sending the ransom note?
It was my reply to Cardgames response from original post.

“The top hit I get is investigative reporters and media journalist.”
 
  • #9,623
Is it too high off the ground to hit with your fists? Would you need a ladder?
Would a thrown rock be heavy enough to cause this damage?
A baseball bat might work?
It looks like someone dunked on it like a basketball hoop. That would explain the damage to the brick itself around where the mounting hardware would be.

JMO
 
  • #9,624
He also said that IHO (in his opinion?!) the perp's connection to SG came through his being local, eg someone who knows of NG and that she lives in a big house and has a famous daughter, rather than that SG is the target. Nancy is the target. MOO.
as has been said so many times..SG has been very open about her hometown of Tucson and her mother who still lives there. I think many locals know NG and of her famous daughter. NG is the target because of her famous wealthy daughter.
 
  • #9,625
Why would NG enter her home via the garage and not the front door? This has been bothering me. The entire garage situation is bothering g me.
Probably convenience. Me and my family always enter through our garage, even when being dropped off. Going in our front door is a pain, and I'm not even sure i have a key to it on my key ring. We just use our garage keypad. Or I can grab a garage door opener and bring it with me. We put our shoes and jackets in the garage too so as to not get dirt everywhere in the house. So that doesn't strike me as odd, especially if she had mobility issues.
 
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  • #9,627
He's saying the perpetrator has a connection to KOLD news station. I'm not familiar with local news in the US - is there any connection between this station and SG / Today show?
I'm not really buying that. It's easy to look up a Tucson news station. JMO.
 
  • #9,628
If everyone in the family is a suspect, wouldn't LE be conducting some surveillance of one or more of these folks?
I mean, we've got the sheriff's, the FBI, and supposedly the full resources of state and federal government working overtime on this high profile case, yet it remains a deep mystery.
 
  • #9,629
OK someone mentioned AG being a jeweler. Honestly, I would doubt she is "that jeweler", she looks like someone selling her stuff on Etsy, but who knows...

But: Annual Tucson Gem and Mineral shows take place from mid-January to late February, with all pre- and post-shows, and of course, not only vendors come but also, lots of scammers and thieves do. The internet dramas I remember following were usually about someone stealing rough, but what do i know? It is a market-based field with all negative sides of it.

One thing that is important: this industry has been using bitcoins since they emerged.

The show is still running, if I am not mistaken. So I wonder if someone could make a connection with the cryptocurrency group?

I don't suspect AG. In fact, I think she is as innocent as other kids of NG. I am just thinking that Tucson may be full of people from different parts of the world for whom crypto is the norm. This year gold and silver are up, so people may be making less.
I’m trying to think about other things LE removed from their home that would be relevant to this case. Did N have any clothing there? Their financial records and statements? I mentioned tools and other things earlier, but what else did they take away from? For DNA, could be a brush, toothbrush, but those are small things, not necessary to need several big bins.
 
  • #9,630
Then how'd she get the garage door open?
Auto Garage door opener?
Easier to carry a key.

EDIT Someone above said keypad.
Yikes
That doesn't seem secure
Could even be programmed to SIL/daughters car. I had my parents programmed to my car to use when I’d visit, check on them, pick up or drop them off since they too never used the front door and did not have a key pad.
 
  • #9,631

My theory. Speculation only.

Persons close to Nancy Guthrie who were in dire financial difficulties concocted a hare-brained and desperate plan to hire pro criminals to kidnap her, forcing a wealthy relative to pay the ransom.

They were assured the old lady would be treated well and merely spend a couple of days watching TV in Mexico until the ransom was paid.

Instead, the kidnappers botched the job and Nancy lost her life during the abduction.

The kidnappers continue to issue demands, despite no longer having her alive, and the people who hired them are left holding the bag.

Nancy will likely never be seen or found again.
This is along the lines of where I am. I am thinking NG cut them out of her will or was planning to do so. I think they were counting on this money as neither has high paying or even medium paying jobs. For the siblings you’ve got a fighter pilot, a famous news anchor, and a…. poet? A poet married to a teacher? That type of disparity sticks out to me… what were they doing? How did they live? How much resentment did that cause over the years and some kind of money disagreement with NG could have been the last straw.
 
  • #9,632
as has been said so many times..SG has been very open about her hometown of Tucson and her mother who still lives there. I think many locals know NG and of her famous daughter. NG is the target because of her famous wealthy daughter.

Yes I believe that's what I just said.
 
  • #9,633
This case is driving me crazy yall!! Surely they are closing in on Nancy's location and what happened right? I refuse to even look at this case on social media because I know there's going to be speculation and randomness!
Few cases have ever had me feeling so helpless!
Anyone else struggling with this too?
 
  • #9,634
If everyone in the family is a suspect, wouldn't LE be conducting some surveillance of one or more of these folks?
I mean, we've got the sheriff's, the FBI, and supposedly the full resources of state and federal government working overtime on this high profile case, yet it remains a deep mystery.
Maybe they were? Maybe they still are?
 
  • #9,635
Regarding the blood on the front porch, could she have been poisoned to subdue her, and in a twisted way, then her blood taken through a vein, and then intentionally dripped on the front porch to stage the scene?
 
  • #9,636
It would be interesting to know if this was one of her first times using Uber, or if she regularly made a habit of it, and if so, how often she took one to her daughter's house.
Tis is a wild guess, but the dinner and game night might have been a routine. Mom takes an Uber over and we drive her home. JMO
 
  • #9,637
Is it too high off the ground to hit with your fists? Would you need a ladder?
Would a thrown rock be heavy enough to cause this damage?
A baseball bat might work?
To me, yes it's too high but i'm only 172cm tall tho 😅 my husband would be able to, i'm sure, he's around 190cm tall
A rock can do it if it's big enough i guess, only need one lucky throw
Baseball bat or heavy stick or other lengthy object would def work
 
  • #9,638
I know it's not unique to this case, but these often retired law enforcement "experts" who have no involvement with the case going on TV and social media with confident pronouncements about what has definitely happened are really not helping. Not helping anyone at all except maybe themselves and their bank accounts (indirectly - not suggesting MSM is paying them, but this does raise their profile for other opportunities).
 
  • #9,639
not really I think SG works for NBC and KOLD is CBS local affiliate.
There may be. One of her early jobs was at KVOA, another local station here in Tucson. The local news family is small.

I don’t think we can be sure.
 
  • #9,640
Then how'd she get the garage door open?
Auto Garage door opener?
Easier to carry a key.

EDIT Someone above said keypad.
Yikes
That doesn't seem secure
I use an app on my phone. Plus I have a keypad in case I lock myself out.
 
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