AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Regarding the blood on the front porch, could she have been poisoned to subdue her, and in a twisted way, then her blood taken through a vein, and then intentionally dripped on the front porch to stage the scene?
 
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It would be interesting to know if this was one of her first times using Uber, or if she regularly made a habit of it, and if so, how often she took one to her daughter's house.
Tis is a wild guess, but the dinner and game night might have been a routine. Mom takes an Uber over and we drive her home. JMO
 
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Is it too high off the ground to hit with your fists? Would you need a ladder?
Would a thrown rock be heavy enough to cause this damage?
A baseball bat might work?
To me, yes it's too high but i'm only 172cm tall tho 😅 my husband would be able to, i'm sure, he's around 190cm tall
A rock can do it if it's big enough i guess, only need one lucky throw
Baseball bat or heavy stick or other lengthy object would def work
 
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I know it's not unique to this case, but these often retired law enforcement "experts" who have no involvement with the case going on TV and social media with confident pronouncements about what has definitely happened are really not helping. Not helping anyone at all except maybe themselves and their bank accounts (indirectly - not suggesting MSM is paying them, but this does raise their profile for other opportunities).
 
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not really I think SG works for NBC and KOLD is CBS local affiliate.
There may be. One of her early jobs was at KVOA, another local station here in Tucson. The local news family is small.

I don’t think we can be sure.
 
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Then how'd she get the garage door open?
Auto Garage door opener?
Easier to carry a key.

EDIT Someone above said keypad.
Yikes
That doesn't seem secure
I use an app on my phone. Plus I have a keypad in case I lock myself out.
 
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Harvey Levin did an interview with Mark Geragos an A Lister defense attorney. He knows how these guys think. He said family just needs to pay the ransom and hope for the best...without proof of life. I tend to agree. Otherwise nothing may happen at all...NG is killed and the kidnappers may never be found. She might be dead but I don't think they have much choice.
I agree. If you have the money or can get the money, you pay or risk your elderly mother being murdered. It sucks and i can’t imagine anything worse, buts its the right thing to do. Terrifying.
 
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If the number of posts here had any influence, this crime would be solved plus a dozen more unsolved cases.
 
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The name of SIL's band was Early Black and their released album was titled "Life Love Murder" Here is link to his bands songs on SoundCloud if interested. Not sure if they are still active or not. Just thought maybe look at band mates. Who knows? Another angle. Everyone's a suspect until they aren't according to the sherrif, right? 10 Early Black Apocalypse Close To Home Lifelovelovemurder
Someone here sleuthed a band mate days ago, and there was a criminal record.
 
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Yes, seeing the actual photo of the smashed flood light is alarming. It was hit so hard with an object the brick is even damaged. When there were initial reports of a broken flood light, I was picturing just a non-working light or maybe a broken light lens or cover. Not completely smashed in like that. Clearly intentional and not an accident.

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How far is the next home to hers? Hitting things with rocks or bricks would make a lot of racket, bringing a lot of attention to themselves. They’d really be taking a risk doing that.
 
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Right now it's looking like whoever is behind this is a criminal mastermind. I can't believe there are no traceable clues or leads. JMO
 
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If this/these perps smashed lights and cameras they had to have something to do that with. Something long. So taking Nancy, and this something long with them when they left, does that imply two people needed? Or that Nancy was bound while they smashed, and they made essentially two trips to vehicle to leave property? Or did they leave that tool behind? Did they smash before entry to home?
 
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In the press conference the sheriff said AG's car was impounded through a search warrant. He said something like that was normal or usual to do that. But I feel like it's not normal or usual to do that because the search warrant needs to state a very good reason to have suspicions for taking the car. Obviously theyre searching for evidence/DNA, but the question is why? Obviously NG's DNA would probably be in the car from being driven around by her daughter. So the search warrant had to have specified something more than that. Just my opinion/thoughts that that doesn't seem routine.
 
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If everyone in the family is a suspect, wouldn't LE be conducting some surveillance of one or more of these folks?
I mean, we've got the sheriff's, the FBI, and supposedly the full resources of state and federal government working overtime on this high profile case, yet it remains a deep mystery.
Oh they absolutely have all of them under surveillance. It is why LE were doing the "hokey pokey" with sealing and unsealing the crime scene this week; for surveillance purposes.
 
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Or add it to the profile: excellent throwing skills, great aim. Ball player?
When was the last time N or others near that light to even know its condition? Could have been done a totally different time than just recently and wasn’t noticed. Which room inside is nearest to it light? How often was N in that room or area to see if the lights were on or not?
 
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Then how'd she get the garage door open?
Auto Garage door opener?
Easier to carry a key.

EDIT Someone above said keypad.
Yikes
That doesn't seem secure
Keypad, garage door opener that hooks on sun visor in car, and app on phone.
 
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I’m trying to think about other things LE removed from their home that would be relevant to this case. Did N have any clothing there? Their financial records and statements? I mentioned tools and other things earlier, but what else did they take away from? For DNA, could be a brush, toothbrush, but those are small things, not necessary to need several big bins.
Computer, iPad, router, Alexa, sheets, light switches, anything with evidence on it, rugs?

My guesses
 
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Right now it's looking like whoever is behind this is a criminal mastermind. I can't believe there are no traceable clues or leads. JMO
I think if they end up getting a ransom, and don't get caught, they could start pulling off more of these?
 
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If the perp smashed the flood lights maybe there are finger prints.
There might be paint chips or transferred touch DNA as well. Might be too high up for fingerprints
 
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I think pointing out that he may or may not be a reliable source of information isn't poltics. He put the words out there, so they can be discussed. It has nothing to do with politics but whether they are a reliable source of information IMO
Completely agree. We’ve all discussed how Nanos has said contradictory things, who is AB’s supposedly impeccable source etc. So there’s a lot I feel skeptical about unless/until they are proven true.

moo
 

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