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Not all Apple Watches have cell capability-- some models rely on connection to iPhone for that. The ones that do have that capability you have to pay like $15 extra per month for it. iPhone could have been put on airplane mode to disable GPS. With bluetooth still on, pacemaker keeps synching.
Airplane mode doesn’t disable gps. Even if it’s a non-cellular model.
 
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For clarity: If they are currently treating AG's house as a crime scene (or at the least, investigating it now) what would be the purpose of including her in the two videos asking for Nancy's release? Is there any precedence here?
100% speculation here…..If AG had any involvement and out of guilt has come clean about the person or persons also involved, this may explain the video plea earlier today as well as her noted reactions? Maybe that also explains “ the we understand” part of the plea? Maybe AG’s possible involvement ends in the early morning hours on Sunday and not wherever her her mom’s location is? Again, purely speculation. That’s what we do here.
 
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I'm struggling to see damage on her vehicle, and I'm even comparing it to a Subaru advertising photo. I must just be missing it--where is the damage?
There is none it was just a glare from the light catching the edge of the bumper. I saw a video of the car being towed back to sheriffs department and it was clear that no damage was on bumper
 
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Also if she never made it home from daughter and sil’s, the clothing she wore to dinner would be missing. If she was, in fact, taken from her home, then I assume those clothes would be there and pajamas would be missing. That info would have made a statement of timing.
Still building a case.
 
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Maybe something was put in AG's food or drink at dinner and she slept through what actually happened?
I considered that, a poisoning.
 
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I find it hard to believe if SIL and AG are involved, that they would be able to send these ransom notes without it being figured out by LE before now. Especially since it involved the bitcoin account and IP encryption. I feel like her death may have been heat of the moment if it was SIL/AG, so it seems off that they could throw together an elaborate ransom situation that quickly. I don’t know. This case is really crazy. So now I’m leaning towards the ransom notes not being really connected.
 
  • #10,889
You know what, I feel like the answer to all this will be inside Annie Guthrie's house.
Why would SG and the brother be sitting there doing videos with AG? Making the SIL THINK they are buying the ransom bs?
 
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I’m thinking the SIL had help. Possibly he took NG home and the crime took place then. He and a buddy came back later to remove her and stage the kidnapping.
right now he's not a suspect......
 
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Searching AG’s house could simply mean it’s the most important location for reconstructing the timeline and finding physical/digital evidence not because NG died there or anyone who lives there is guilty of her disappearance.
 
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I believe they have one child. I'm not sure where I read it, but I feel fairly certain I read that they share a child.
This is from a Yahoo article. I assume it's okay to post it here. I'll include the link.

<Modsnip: photo removed. Can see it at link>
 
  • #10,893
Kyron Horman’s stepmother in similar videos. She (Terri Moulton) was never charged but is the defacto suspect.
Ughh. Not only have I said it is not SIL, but I have not WANTED it to be him or AG. Still hoping tonight’s events mean something else, but see I may have been wrong. Whatever happens this will be solved.
Kyron's case was the first one I followed here. Very sad.
 
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I find it hard to believe if SIL and AG are involved, that they would be able to send these ransom notes without it being figured out by LE before now. Especially since it involved the bitcoin account and IP encryption. I feel like her death may have been heat of the moment if it was SIL/AG, so it seems off that they could throw together an elaborate ransom situation that quickly. I don’t know. This case is really crazy. So now I’m leaning towards the ransom notes not being really connected.
Maybe the shady bandmate is sending them to help his buddy out or they are in on it together from the jump
 
  • #10,896
if she wasn't actually there, did they take her blood and drip on the front porch? that is- sorry- insane. And how did her car get damaged? Is that why she took an Uber? this case has more oddities daily.
The uber is verified. Car damage could have happened anytime. Likely unrelated, but who knows. Possible blood was staged. TC is biology teacher. Pipettes.
 
  • #10,897
If she didn't make it home, a quick drive there, raise and lower the garage door to suggest she was dropped off home.

Later returning to the house to stage crime scene
Could have taken her home inside her car if the child was home or expected home shortly.
 
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We have been sure something big was happening a few times this week and then nothing. This is weird to me them going on and out of the houses and then why would they just now be using luminol? SIL has been MIA for days I think he is being held, I think we all have to be prepared for something really shocking with this one. I can't take it, I was holding out so much hope for a happy reunion between NG and her kids.
Where do you think SIL is being held?
 
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I’m thinking the SIL had help. Possibly he took NG home and the crime took place then. He and a buddy came back later to remove her and stage the kidnapping.
IMO this is a decent theory but I keep getting hung up on the fact that the pacemaker would have shared data of her death while if paired with the devices in her home.
 
  • #10,900
Well Well Well…

Seems like something is finally happening.

I wondered if Nancy ever came home. That camera they removed may have finally put some pieces together.

Oh boy.

MOO
I have been asking the same question. Do we have proof NG actually came home that night? Did she leave the house of her daughter and SIL??
Could any evidence at her have been staged after a possible crime at another location?
 
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