• #10,921
Something I keep coming back to is how unusual it is that whoever is behind this has not been traced yet, especially given the amount of digital activity reportedly involved.

What makes it interesting is that the same privacy tools often discussed in cases like this are not exclusive to criminals. Journalists operating in dangerous environments regularly use encrypted communication, anonymity networks, and secure operating systems to protect themselves and their sources in life-or-death situations. Those tools are designed to reduce traceability and protect identity, not just for wrongdoing, but for legitimate safety and confidentiality.

However, even with strong privacy tools, perfect anonymity does not really exist. In most real investigations, people are eventually identified not because the technology “fails,” but because small correlations appear over time. Behavioral patterns, timing, metadata, or a single verified link between identity and activity can collapse the anonymity layer.

So the real question is not just what tools are being used, but whether investigators have found the one small connection that ties a real person to the critical timeline. In many cases, once that happens, everything else starts to align.

Just an observation for discussion.
Possible the perpetrator(s) involved in this have been traced. In order to gather solid evidence and be sure the perpetrator(s) will be convicted, they aren't revealing much of what they know and are gathering rock-solid evidence before giving the public more information. JMO
 
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I have been asking the same question. Do we have proof NG actually came home that night? Did she leave the house of her daughter and SIL??
Could any evidence at her have been staged after a possible crime at another location?
I would think that aspect would be easier to prove - even if door cam's on NG's street aren't helpful b/c of lot size, I think saying Car X left House A and drove to House B at Y time would be easier to prove/disprove.
 
  • #10,925
if she wasn't actually there, did they take her blood and drip on the front porch? that is- sorry- insane. And how did her car get damaged? Is that why she took an Uber? this case has more oddities daily.

Maybe the shady bandmate is sending them to help his buddy out or they are in on it together from the jump
possible
 
  • #10,926
I'm struggling to see damage on her vehicle, and I'm even comparing it to a Subaru advertising photo. I must just be missing it--where is the damage?
the front bumper is cracked- not horrendously, but cracked... horizontally
(another poster says that this is just a reflection- looks cracked in the posted photo- I dunno)
 
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Meaning that they staged it using her blood pouring it in the house and outside the door?
Yes this is my question. Could the evidence at the home be crime scene staging? Altering, changing, adding evidence in an attempt to confuse LE and point them in other directions.
 
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I mean, I can’t say that sil is not involved-your guess is as good as mine as they say :-)
But blood spatter, pacemakers, phones, cars, watches, security cameras anywhere along the route. That it was known and logged that she was at their house that night (why not simply do it on a random night so there wouldn’t be an uber record directly to them).
I mean even in a movie I would be skeptical that an individual like sil could manage all this.
So IF he was involved (I am not convinced yet) it had to be at her house at the very least I would think.
Though I admit the back and forth to these houses and actually taking pictures now-I honestly am more clueless lol.
 
  • #10,930
I’m sure by the time I finish this thought, there will be about 30 more messages posted here, but for now I’m caught up. The one thing that’s bothering me (and I agree with the majority at this point the direction this is heading in terms of potential perp) is the amount of coordination this would have take to have so many things staged at NG’s home. Yes the blood drops could’ve been from some other unrelated earlier injury, or maybe even put there by the suspect to stage that she made it home. But then, add in the clues of the time of the garage door opening/closing, camera(s) disconnect and motion detection timing, watch/pacemaker sync ending time, etc… it just seems like a LOT to coordinate in a relatively short amount of time.
Although… add in a possibility of an additional non-relative being involved as accomplice and I suppose it could add up. Just doesn’t feel like it would’ve taken THIS long for LE to put these pieces together.
bbm
I think the ransom situation threw a wrench into their investigation....lots of time and resources
 
  • #10,931
Innocent until proven guilty....
Also, it is not confirmed the ransom notes are a hoax or not... family united to talk to that perp
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. In the court of public opinion, that’s another matter altogether.
 
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If AB source is correct, they have been aware early on that there was evidence enough to suspect "someone" in particular. So some evidence was already pointing that way. We don't know if it was phone/watch or something else from the house. Whatever info they had before AB told us about her source was already pointing in this direction. IF her source is correct.
 
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Other than being supposedly the last person to see NG alive, what makes SIL a suspect? He has been in the family for many years, has a respectable job ... what makes people suspect him? I don't believe finances are the driving factor here. NG is 84, at some point in the not too distant future they would be getting a share of inheritance. What do we know about SIL otherwise?
 
  • #10,935
Possible the perpetrator(s) involved in this have been traced. In order to gather solid evidence and be sure the perpetrator(s) will be convicted, they aren't revealing much of what they know and are gathering rock-solid evidence before giving the public more information. JMO
Especially given the very dramatic knee jerk response to AB's initial revelation that SIL was possibly the person of interest. She was out on her own at the time, it wasn't every reporter, yet it justified the Sheriff releasing a very pointed press release.

If SIL has been their focus from days ago, and they already have alot of evidence that is been kept away from the public/reporters, then understandably they wanted this discussion of SIL shut down quickly to not compromise the investigation IMO
 
  • #10,936
I would think that aspect would be easier to prove - even if door cam's on NG's street aren't helpful b/c of lot size, I think saying Car X left House A and drove to House B at Y time would be easier to prove/disprove.
Do you know if a camera can detect the passengers in a car via nighttime video? Would NG be actually seen in the car, or just the exterior of the car?
Video of the car moving from point A to point B would bolster the SIL's account, but not prove it unless NG can be seen in the car?
 
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Do any blood spatter experts know if you’d be able to stage the blood? How? Syringe?
 
  • #10,938
maybe, and maybe LE have kept alot more to their chest than we thought...
Seems that revealing a lot of information to the public could get in the way of what LE needs to do to build a solid case against the perpetrator(s). LE knows far more than about all of this than the rest of us. JMO
 
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The watch was charging in her bedroom. It was connected via Bluetooth to her pacemaker. After about 30 feet, Bluetooth drops out, so as NG was removed from her house, her pacemakers connection to her watched disappeared/dropped

Jmo
Correct. At some point that watch was removed and placed on the charging device. I’m speculating the removal may have happened at front door causing a skin tear? I’m unsure how many feet from the front door NG’s bedroom is?
 
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