Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[CandyKiss]

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Meaning that they staged it using her blood pouring it in the house and outside the door?

the blood wasn't smeared ... or a possible shoe print; even a corner of a shoe ... some of it should have been smeared if they were removing her from the home ... just all drops -- except the one patch of blood; that appears as if it was from nose/throat (from the lab results)

 

[LRinCA]

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FWIW, when all the news started pouring in about the activity at AG's house it was a good 15 minutes until it finally clicked for me that it wasn't at NG's house!

 

[Sundog]

Can you get good fingerprints off of a rock?

The FBI can with some new kind of magnetic fingerprint powder that has been developed to get fingerprints off of porous surfaces. It was discussed in a video with Brian Entin and Maureen O'Connell, former FBI.

 

[kccorona]

I would think that aspect would be easier to prove - even if door cam's on NG's street aren't helpful b/c of lot size, I think saying Car X left House A and drove to House B at Y time would be easier to prove/disprove.

Yes, I’m thinking this could’ve been a reason for LE visiting Circle K yesterday (?) requesting surveillance cameras footage looking for a vehicle of interest. Wasn’t it said this circle K was very close to AG/SIL’s home?

 

[emigrate]

More Lifetime or Oxygen, less Hallmark. I'm not picturing a lovely ending here.

Lifetime

What on earth could be going on at AG house? No one is supposed to be there right now.

Do you think they were all asked to go to hotels and not be there because they had a feeling SIL was the perp but didn't want public to catch on? Like make it look like the family left due to privacy but really they were told they believe the house was a 2nd crime scene.

 

[Melisende10]

Other than being supposedly the last person to see NG alive, what makes SIL a suspect? He has been in the family for many years, has a respectable job ... what makes people suspect him? I don't believe finances are the driving factor here. NG is 84, at some point in the not too distant future they would be getting a share of inheritance. What do we know about SIL otherwise?

I don't think LE has released anything but it is possible (actually definite) that they know more about that night than what has been said publicly about people's whereabouts or internet/phone activity.

Also we don't really know anything about NG or her family except for Savannah's very public facing role. We don't know what family dynamics were like. People kill people for all kind of reasons even reasons that don't make sense to most people.

 

[SMK777]

bbm
I think the ransom situation threw a wrench into their investigation....lots of time and resources

And that was the goal.

 

[justwannahelp]

FWIW I don't think they're looking for a body.

I think they're looking for something that the ransomer manipulated.

GHI thinks maybe LE put a camera IN and was removing it.

JMO

That’s what I’m thinking. Maybe LE put camera there after the abduction in case perp went back?? Fam would have known if there was a camera on roof and if they didn’t, they wouldn’t have missed that. They are retrieving one they placed there or the object is not a camera

 

[SRWCF]

My mind is on overdrive and may soon explode.
I'm thinking now, was SG's video today staged, as in SG knows more than she is saying? Trying to think this through...or discard the thought.

I thought that SG's use of the world "celebrate" during the video was a bit odd. A bit too positive for such a horrible situation. I think it was either a code word that the kidnapper told SG to say OR SG's video response was 100% drafted by LE to keep the ransom story going until they can gather enough evidence for an arrest.

 

[Strangeworld]

the blood wasn't smeared ... or a possible shoe print; even a corner of a shoe ... some of it should have been smeared if they were removing her from the home ... just all drops -- except the one patch of blood; that appears as if it was from nose/throat (from the lab results)

Almost too neat and perfect

 

[StarryStarryNight]

What if:

- there was a request for a loan by a host a small family gathering, and it was declined
-someone became enraged and another person was injured and died, and the hosts of the gathering try to think what to do
-one of the hosts takes the deceased’s Apple Watch and collects some blood and walks over to the deceased’s house and enters through the garage just before 10pm, backing victims car out of the garage
-that host stages the crime scene, watch and blood.
-that host drives back to his house in victim’s car and puts victim in that car then drives around to find a place to hide the body
-then that host drives back to his house
-the next morning when the hosts go to victims house they take their car and victims car. Enter home by the garage, parking the victims car back in garage before LE comes.

*LE tows victim’s car days later after a license plate reader indicated the car was being driven around that night.

And after that bedtime story/fairy tale, it’s off to dreamland for me! Goodnight, friends!

 

[citizen_sleuth]

If SIL/AG were involved, I’m struggling to make sense of the timeline (even assuming the ransom demands are unrelated).

The first scenario, that NG never left their home after dinner, seems difficult to match with the pacemaker connectivity data. How would her pacemaker connect to her Apple Watch until around 2am? The Apple Watch was found at NG’s home and I would imagine one of the first things LE did was run digital forensics to see where the watch was and when, so both NG and the watch would’ve had to return back to NG’s house.

The second scenario, that NG was indeed taken from her home at the time her pacemaker lost connection with the Apple Watch at around 2am is also confusing, albeit much less so. If SIL/AG were responsible, why the blood? I could see staging the scene to make it look like there was forced entry, but as family, they would have likely been able to remove her from home and get her into a car without resorting to violence (for example, “so-and-so is sick and at the hospital and we need to go now”).

MOO.

 

[ttjo]

The uber is verified. Car damage could have happened anytime. Likely unrelated, but who knows. Possible blood was staged. TC is biology teacher. Pipettes.

I wasnt even sure if it was damage or if the pic was just distorted

 

[priyaya]

JMO - if there is a kidnapping followed by ransom letters, a person of SG's standing would probably go through professional negotiators.

She's a lawyer.. . She'd definitely negotiate
Why I think she's playing along for FBI to catch whoever

 

[Fargo]

Doesn't mean she was alive, does it? All the timeline says is that "Sixteen minutes later, at 2:28 a.m., Guthrie’s pacemaker app showed it had disconnected from her phone." Wouldn't this indicate that she was taken away from her phone at that time? Could she have already been deceased at that point, but still have her phone on her?

I don't know how pacemakers work, if someone else could chime in here. Would the app show activity if she was deceased and was still wearing the watch?

Source: Authorities provide a timeline of the night Nancy Guthrie disappeared

There seems to be a lot of confusion about pacemaker monitoring. The pacemaker is not transmitting to the receiver 24/7. Once a day, typically between midnight and 3 am, the app will interrogate the pacemaker for a transmission. It seems that when the interrogation was sent at 2:28 am the app received a "disconnected" reply because the pacemaker was not in range when interrogated and pacemaker data could not be retrieved.

 

[korncrasy]

And someone said it may have been luminol. Sounds like a crime scene.

Maybe they are using luminal on SIL shoes, garage floor,clothes etc and nothing actually happened at AG house.

 

[TheDinks]

Other than being supposedly the last person to see NG alive, what makes SIL a suspect? He has been in the family for many years, has a respectable job ... what makes people suspect him? I don't believe finances are the driving factor here. NG is 84, at some point in the not too distant future they would be getting a share of inheritance. What do we know about SIL otherwise?

If you care to read comments on YT videos of any media broadcasting this you will see a gazillion reasons for people's suspicions from the accepted (last to see + family member) to the way he looks, his eyes, lack of money, the lyrics he write, album name... the list goes on...

Not my personal reasoning... just what I've read and answering query.

 

[tbgo]

Other than being supposedly the last person to see NG alive, what makes SIL a suspect? He has been in the family for many years, has a respectable job ... what makes people suspect him? I don't believe finances are the driving factor here. NG is 84, at some point in the not too distant future they would be getting a share of inheritance. What do we know about SIL otherwise?

What is his job? They were able to find very little about either his or the sister’s actual employment.

 

[Luna20]

Someone posted upthread to watch SG video without sound on it? It is an interesting angle.

 

[SRWCF]

If the crime took place in their house, then Ag can't not know...

She and TC have been married for 20 years. They are both "poets" so connect on a deeper, artistic level. They know each other well. She knows, if she is not directly involved already.