• #10,961
If in fact SIL is involved, this makes the earlier things, like LE publicly ruling out family as suspects, and LE being vague saying 'family' took her home, we are going to go with that, make sense.
 
  • #10,962
the blood wasn't smeared ... or a possible shoe print; even a corner of a shoe ... some of it should have been smeared if they were removing her from the home ... just all drops -- except the one patch of blood; that appears as if it was from nose/throat (from the lab results)
I did read here a post from person (who knows about blood spatter) that if a drop of blood drops onto another fresh drop...it will scatter, as shown in that one area on the porch.
 
  • #10,963
I believe - and have from the start - that the ransom demands are a diversion. Unfortunately, the demands have also been a sensational diversion. The time and resources used to follow up on these demands have allowed the person or persons responsible for her disappearance time to cover their tracks.

Do the demands have to be taken seriously? Yes, of course. Do I believe she's being held for ransom? No.
 
  • #10,964
Other than being supposedly the last person to see NG alive, what makes SIL a suspect? He has been in the family for many years, has a respectable job ... what makes people suspect him? I don't believe finances are the driving factor here. NG is 84, at some point in the not too distant future they would be getting a share of inheritance. What do we know about SIL otherwise?
Suspicion raised here after journalist AB reported a very high level LE told her that he may be their prime suspect on Day #2!
 
Last edited:
  • #10,965
There seems to be a lot of confusion about pacemaker monitoring. The pacemaker is not transmitting to the receiver 24/7. Once a day, typically between midnight and 3 am, the app will interrogate the pacemaker for a transmission. It seems that when the interrogation was sent at 2:28 am the app received a "disconnected" reply because the pacemaker was not in range when interrogated and pacemaker data could not be retrieved.
Wow, I didn't know this! Well that certainly sheds light on a few things. Thank you for clarifying Fargo
 
  • #10,966
  • #10,967
And someone said it may have been luminol. Sounds like a crime scene.
hmmm with no crime scene tape up and 2 unmarked LE vehicles.

I would expect to see more there.

I think they are just searching. For what? who knows. Anything.
 
  • #10,968
I'm afraid they received proof of non-life in this new video. (Savannah Speaks Out in Second Video with Siblings, Says They ‘Will Pay’ For Mother’s Return)

"We received your message. We understand."
Understand what? That she is gone, particularly reading Savannah's defeated and sad demeanor so different than the first video, her excruciating desperate plea ("We need to know without a doubt that she is alive") and still referring to her mother in present tense, her joy and faith and sense of adventure, etc. None of that is in this video.

Also, the plea for her to return so they can peace. "This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us, and we will pay.”

We will still pay you to have her body returned to us is the only way left for us to have peace, is how it reads to me.

Everything is just different, the dejected sadness coupled with the somber verbiage. Bloody hell, what a nightmare this has all been. And, I'll add, I would love nothing more than to be 100% wrong.

There is a special place in hell for those who hurt the most vulnerable among us.

MOO
 
Last edited:
  • #10,969
Yes, I’m thinking this could’ve been a reason for LE visiting Circle K yesterday (?) requesting surveillance cameras footage looking for a vehicle of interest. Wasn’t it said this circle K was very close to AG/SIL’s home?
I agree, you literally have to pass this circle K to go from Nancy’s house to AG’s. Idk I was on the fence but I’m firmly in SIL camp right now.
 
Last edited:
  • #10,970
I did read here a post from person (who knows about blood spatter) that if a drop of blood drops onto another fresh drop...it will scatter, as shown in that one area on the porch.
Yes I want to say it may have been Tricia who shared the info about that-I will try to find it
 
  • #10,971
  • #10,972
And that was the goal.
Yes the goal when staging a murder to look like a kidnapping, is to scatter the police every where looking for the kidnappers and the person being held for ransom.
 
  • #10,973
  • #10,974
That is true but it was dark and had plenty of time, hours, maybe this certain set of fellows knows someone handy with ductwork, those guys can do it very fast. You wouldn't have to do whole thing just a portion. But I don't see any blood on roof so, hope not, hope she is still with us
They sometimes check ductwork for dna
 
  • #10,975
  • #10,976
That’s what I’m thinking. Maybe LE put camera there after the abduction in case perp went back?? Fam would have known if there was a camera on roof and if they didn’t, they wouldn’t have missed that. They are retrieving one they placed there or the object is not a camera

Which explains removing the crime scene tape and turning the home back over to the family so soon.
 
  • #10,977
I would like to know how the family celebrated NG's birthday on 27th Jan. Was it a regular thing for her to Uber over to AG/TC's place for a family games night? Some idea of the dynamics would help, but I guess we won't know these yet.

I may be too naive, but it seems unfathomable to me that family would go to such lengths to conceal something? It would involve more than one person if anything occurred at AG/TC's house, and I cannot begin to imagine AG being on these video appeals whilst knowing what has gone on. It is truly an unbearable thought.

Why would the family be offering to pay, if the ransom notes are fake and the police are actually suspecting TC?
 
  • #10,978
Do you know if a camera can detect the passengers in a car via nighttime video? Would NG be actually seen in the car, or just the exterior of the car?
Video of the car moving from point A to point B would bolster the SIL's account, but not prove it unless NG can be seen in the car?
The type of cameras a car driving along a street would capture aren't sophisticated nighttime cameras. They're typically various surveillance cameras but their footage, when stitched together would create a narrative of the same car moving along a geographic area - and the police would want footage from other cars/houses in the area.

So if NG's son in law told police he'd taken her home - they definitely would know the route he said he'd taken and then triangulate that with other evidence supporting that his car drove where he said it had driven and the time he said it had driven.

But it's extremely unlikely that any digital proof they'd picked would include 'nighttime vision' into the car.
 
  • #10,979
It was immediately apparent this was a typo... peeps need to pay more attention!
You know, I haven't been as active last since Harmony Montgomery and Augustus's stories were hot. But where are the sharp, quick regulars? I get this case has moved fast, but some of the rando questions and lack of attention to this are honestly baffling. Haven't y'all been watching TV?? Put me in the secret chat room, please!😂🤣
 
Last edited:
  • #10,980
Last edited:
Chapter 1/4

Guardians Monthly Goal

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
158
Guests online
3,053
Total visitors
3,211

Forum statistics

Threads
644,277
Messages
18,814,410
Members
245,332
Latest member
LaLaloopy
Top