AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[kccorona]

I’m sure by the time I finish this thought, there will be about 30 more messages posted here, but for now I’m caught up. The one thing that’s bothering me (and I agree with the majority at this point the direction this is heading in terms of potential perp) is the amount of coordination this would have take to have so many things staged at NG’s home. Yes the blood drops could’ve been from some other unrelated earlier injury, or maybe even put there by the suspect to stage that she made it home. But then, add in the clues of the time of the garage door opening/closing, camera(s) disconnect and motion detection timing, watch/pacemaker sync ending time, etc… it just seems like a LOT to coordinate in a relatively short amount of time.
Although… add in a possibility of an additional non-relative being involved as accomplice and I suppose it could add up. Just doesn’t feel like it would’ve taken THIS long for LE to put these pieces together.

 

[zecats]

I find it hard to believe if SIL and AG are involved, that they would be able to send these ransom notes without it being figured out by LE before now. Especially since it involved the bitcoin account and IP encryption. I feel like her death may have been heat of the moment if it was SIL/AG, so it seems off that they could throw together an elaborate ransom situation that quickly. I don’t know. This case is really crazy. So now I’m leaning towards the ransom notes not being really connected.

Would be compassionate of AG, if she actually has knowledge of this alternate scenario to prevent any money being paid to the ransome note senders who don’t have her mother, so that her siblings don’t fork over a ton of money. MOO

 

[tbgo]

According to AB's source, it's the other homeowner who MAY be a suspect, not AG.

Again, just saying, as in answering query with info out there.

Where and when did she say this?

 

[Beans]

If SiL did kick this off he must have had help, and maybe this help is now running the show, because you'd have to assume that communication between them after the fact would be impossible. Whoever is running this now can't be sitting in the same space as that family day after day.

Could they know that? Might that be why family are engaging with these ransom notes and sending videos? Could it explain some of the weird wording and phraseology they're using?

My mind is like a hive of angry bees right now. Chaos.

 

[Cassie P]

doesn't have to be poison-just something to make her unconscious

This would mean a planned event.

 

[justwannahelp]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019922134437703838

I think there are 5 circle K’s on oracle. Do we know which one had the vehicle of interest. (I’m about 150 pages behind, so hoping we do…)

 

[SRWCF]

Why would SG and the brother be sitting there doing videos with AG? Making the SIL THINK they are buying the ransom bs?

Maybe no one has clued in SG and the brother, yet. You know, so that LE can observe behavior until they can make an arrest. I still can't believe I'm now leaning into the theory that AG and TC know something...ugh!

 

[KellySleuth]

Yes it was the last location where she was seen by multiple witnesses. It is only logical that the area be examined?

At night? In the dark? With flashing lights in the garage?

 

[Fromeaster]

If the crime took place in their house, then Ag can't not know...

 

[browneyes]

AG blood was on the porch.

It was NG’s blood, per the sheriff.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Something I keep coming back to is how unusual it is that whoever is behind this has not been traced yet, especially given the amount of digital activity reportedly involved.

What makes it interesting is that the same privacy tools often discussed in cases like this are not exclusive to criminals. Journalists operating in dangerous environments regularly use encrypted communication, anonymity networks, and secure operating systems to protect themselves and their sources in life-or-death situations. Those tools are designed to reduce traceability and protect identity, not just for wrongdoing, but for legitimate safety and confidentiality.

However, even with strong privacy tools, perfect anonymity does not really exist. In most real investigations, people are eventually identified not because the technology “fails,” but because small correlations appear over time. Behavioral patterns, timing, metadata, or a single verified link between identity and activity can collapse the anonymity layer.

So the real question is not just what tools are being used, but whether investigators have found the one small connection that ties a real person to the critical timeline. In many cases, once that happens, everything else starts to align.

Just an observation for discussion.

Possible the perpetrator(s) involved in this have been traced. In order to gather solid evidence and be sure the perpetrator(s) will be convicted, they aren't revealing much of what they know and are gathering rock-solid evidence before giving the public more information. JMO

 

[TIGER0822]

It was NG’s blood, per the sheriff.

Thanks . Wiii edit.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Media is gathering outside the home of Annie Guthrie. Media has been there for around two hours. Authorities are inside the house, flashes of lights like pictures being taken. Search Warrant. Media is piling in

 

[Interested Torontonian]

I have been asking the same question. Do we have proof NG actually came home that night? Did she leave the house of her daughter and SIL??
Could any evidence at her have been staged after a possible crime at another location?

I would think that aspect would be easier to prove - even if door cam's on NG's street aren't helpful b/c of lot size, I think saying Car X left House A and drove to House B at Y time would be easier to prove/disprove.

 

[dogmom805]

if she wasn't actually there, did they take her blood and drip on the front porch? that is- sorry- insane. And how did her car get damaged? Is that why she took an Uber? this case has more oddities daily.

Maybe the shady bandmate is sending them to help his buddy out or they are in on it together from the jump

possible

 

[acutename]

I'm struggling to see damage on her vehicle, and I'm even comparing it to a Subaru advertising photo. I must just be missing it--where is the damage?

the front bumper is cracked- not horrendously, but cracked... horizontally
(another poster says that this is just a reflection- looks cracked in the posted photo- I dunno)

 

[Cassie P]

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Meaning that they staged it using her blood pouring it in the house and outside the door?

Yes this is my question. Could the evidence at the home be crime scene staging? Altering, changing, adding evidence in an attempt to confuse LE and point them in other directions.

 

[browneyes]

I need his energy.

…..and some Tums.

 

[InspectGadget]

I mean, I can’t say that sil is not involved-your guess is as good as mine as they say
But blood spatter, pacemakers, phones, cars, watches, security cameras anywhere along the route. That it was known and logged that she was at their house that night (why not simply do it on a random night so there wouldn’t be an uber record directly to them).
I mean even in a movie I would be skeptical that an individual like sil could manage all this.
So IF he was involved (I am not convinced yet) it had to be at her house at the very least I would think.
Though I admit the back and forth to these houses and actually taking pictures now-I honestly am more clueless lol.

 

[whitelilac]

I’m sure by the time I finish this thought, there will be about 30 more messages posted here, but for now I’m caught up. The one thing that’s bothering me (and I agree with the majority at this point the direction this is heading in terms of potential perp) is the amount of coordination this would have take to have so many things staged at NG’s home. Yes the blood drops could’ve been from some other unrelated earlier injury, or maybe even put there by the suspect to stage that she made it home. But then, add in the clues of the time of the garage door opening/closing, camera(s) disconnect and motion detection timing, watch/pacemaker sync ending time, etc… it just seems like a LOT to coordinate in a relatively short amount of time.
Although… add in a possibility of an additional non-relative being involved as accomplice and I suppose it could add up. Just doesn’t feel like it would’ve taken THIS long for LE to put these pieces together.

bbm
I think the ransom situation threw a wrench into their investigation....lots of time and resources