Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Kemug]

Ill bet a biology teacher might have a lot of cool tools at their disposal.

Maybe someone had their hand over Nancy's mouth, to keep her quiet?

 

[Vaderman]

I’m beginning to wonder if LE wasn’t at AG’s house just to distract us from something else. Where was the FBI? The sheriff’s in Chapel Hill, so who’s in charge? And just like that, I’m back to wondering if the ransom might actually be the real situation.

I don't that "we" are the target audience JMO

 

[Fargo]

has anyone checked on Pima County Jail?

I check every hour or so. Nothing so far.

Pima County Sheriff Department

Pima County Sheriff's Department.

www.sheriff.pima.gov

 

[cathathorse]

No. Only that it didn't connect

Is NYPost allowed as a source here? Because here they are citing the Thursday press conference about a spike in heart rate at 2am:

NYPost Heart Rate Spike article

 

[whitelilac]

I’m beginning to wonder if LE wasn’t at AG’s house just to distract us from something else. Where was the FBI? The sheriff’s in Chapel Hill, so who’s in charge? And just like that, I’m back to wondering if the ransom might actually be the real situation.

It's making us all crosseyed. It's been a back and forth situation all week.

 

[TheDinks]

It seemed like NG cherished her grandchild (all of them, of course, but AG's seems to be the one she spent the most time with due to proximity). I really hope SIL wouldn't do that to him, and the rest of the family. I hope there's an innocuous reason LE's taking photos there, but I don’t know.

And if SIL was involved I really hope AG wasn’t… it’s possible she wasn’t if he planned it with a friend or something. IDK what to think anymore. Really hoped the family wasn’t involved.

I've hoped since the beginning there was no family involvement in the crime. It's horrific enough to lose a love one this way but then to have to deal with that aspect on top magnifies the trauma!

When AB revealed what her source told her I was annoyed with her, both for possibly hindering investigation but also for bringing SO much negative attention on someone who may not be guilty. Days later she was telling Megyn Kelly her source is still adamant with the tip, so...

I am 100% sure, following latest plea from Savannah, that Ms Guthrie has passed but I still hope that her family (despite what my theories comprise) are not involved.

 

[InspectGadget]

Is NYPost allowed as a source here? Because here they are citing the Thursday press conference about a spike in heart rate at 2am:

NYPost Heart Rate Spike article

The title of the article is how it could possibly show a spike
They only said disconnected at the presser.

 

[MCB1151]

Maybe I'm not understanding this. Don't they need probable cause to get a warrant? I'd be surprised if they went there last night, parked, and then suddenly realized that they didn't have a warrant. So maybe they were there last night for some slightly different reason?

JMO

I don't think they pulled up and "realized they didn't have a warrant", but sometimes just showing up and asking to check inside is enough to make some people panic and scramble. Remember too they started searching the area between the two houses today as well. Something could have popped up on a cell phone dump, they may have found something in between the houses, there may have been something suspicious in plain sight. There's really no telling what happened between last night and today that convinced a judge to sign off on a search warrant.

 

[Moonchime]

I find it hard to believe if SIL and AG are involved, that they would be able to send these ransom notes without it being figured out by LE before now. Especially since it involved the bitcoin account and IP encryption. I feel like her death may have been heat of the moment if it was SIL/AG, so it seems off that they could throw together an elaborate ransom situation that quickly. I don’t know. This case is really crazy. So now I’m leaning towards the ransom notes not being really connected.

Searching AG’s house could simply mean it’s the most important location for reconstructing the timeline and finding physical/digital evidence not because NG died there or anyone who lives there is guilty of her disappearance.

Detectives left with boxes and a folding table. They were inside for about two hours. Maybe the camera they removed yesterday held the identity of the person(s) responsible for NG's disappearance. Hopefully, an arrest will happen soon.

 

[TheDinks]

Is NYPost allowed as a source here? Because here they are citing the Thursday press conference about a spike in heart rate at 2am:

NYPost Heart Rate Spike article

Megyn Kelly and Ashleigh Banfield have discussed that 'spike at 2am' also... I did put link to MK's broadcast yesterday but tbh am not sure if she is an accepted source.

 

[priyaya]

Is NYPost allowed as a source here? Because here they are citing the Thursday press conference about a spike in heart rate at 2am:

NYPost Heart Rate Spike article

They also said stopped synching

 

[Interested Torontonian]

Just a general query, but how often do you think a parent might try to cover for a child's actions? Would most parents, some parents, not at all; what do you think, in general? Just curiousity, fwiw.

I think coverup motivation is very unpredictable - after that dude allegedly killed Charlie Kirk, his dad was about to turn him in. If, like, a family member I was extremely close to was potentially involved in something bad, I legit would need to think about it hard - and if you knew me IRL i'd be the last person you'd assume would be flaking on that type of decision.

Edit - I definitely wouldn't involve myself in a coverup, that's for sure.

 

[Fargo]

Is NYPost allowed as a source here? Because here they are citing the Thursday press conference about a spike in heart rate at 2am:

NYPost Heart Rate Spike article

From the article:

“A pacemaker not only has the ability to create a heartbeat, triggering a heart to beat, but it’s also a sophisticated monitor of the patient’s heart rhythm, and a pacemaker is programmed to check in once a day, just to check in with its communication device and then ultimately the app that monitors it once a day,” he explained.


“Typically that’s at night, so at 2 o’clock in the morning, that’s all it might have been doing.”

BBM

 

[Moonchime]

I’m sure by the time I finish this thought, there will be about 30 more messages posted here, but for now I’m caught up. The one thing that’s bothering me (and I agree with the majority at this point the direction this is heading in terms of potential perp) is the amount of coordination this would have take to have so many things staged at NG’s home. Yes the blood drops could’ve been from some other unrelated earlier injury, or maybe even put there by the suspect to stage that she made it home. But then, add in the clues of the time of the garage door opening/closing, camera(s) disconnect and motion detection timing, watch/pacemaker sync ending time, etc… it just seems like a LOT to coordinate in a relatively short amount of time.
Although… add in a possibility of an additional non-relative being involved as accomplice and I suppose it could add up. Just doesn’t feel like it would’ve taken THIS long for LE to put these pieces together.

I believe that the opportunist who sent the "ransom" letters threw a wrench into the investigation.

 

[nightowl2728]

I watched most of Brian Entin's livestream of the AZ deputies at AG's house tonight and my questions/comments are that I haven't seen touched on yet here:

1. Where have Annie and Tommaso been staying? I heard earlier on that SG was staying with them; but, now it's unclear where everyone is staying whether together or separate. [Edit: If SG was staying with them early on was TC a suspect at that point as AB has stated? I understand that's not confirmed but it's been known for LE to have close family/friends get info on a suspect/coerce a confession. NOT saying that's the case here but it could be that they used SG to get info on TC early on - where he said he was/who he was with, materials in the home, etc.; maybe SG didn't even know if he was a suspect. All my opinion/speculation.]
Also, has TC been seen in the past 24/48 hours? Could he be on the run or being held?

2. Why AZ deputies tonight and not FBI/federal LE?

3. Is AG's house being guarded/monitored at all? If it's a crime scene or even just important in the case, which would make sense, it looks based on the live stream that anyone could just walk up the driveway. Which seems risky if they're trying to collect evidence.

4. For those that didn't see, one of the deputies tonight had on blue latex gloves when he got in his car to leave.

5. Someone in the comments on the live stream said that one of the few objects removed with the deputies tonight from the home was not a poster as many thought but possibly a piece of drywall. Could it have been cut out of the home or garage by deputies because it had some kind of evidence on it? Blood?

Anyway curious everyone's thoughts on the above!

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I find it interesting that it was deputies and not FBI or some other federal agency.

The FBI can instruct or request that local law enforcement officers, to help with a search warrant to investigate

They do partner in task forces.

But federal agents remain in charge of the search operation.

The Feds could be busy with something else

 

[kccorona]

Is NYPost allowed as a source here? Because here they are citing the Thursday press conference about a spike in heart rate at 2am:

NYPost Heart Rate Spike article

I don’t see anywhere in the article they actually link the PC to saying her pacemaker “spiked” .. they seem to be combining outside reported info about a potential spike with the PC timeline, without ever directly stating in the article (that I can find) that the police said anything other than the pacemaker and phone sync abnormality at 2am.

 

[acutename]

How Does Apple Watch Collect Data? Demystifying The Process » DapperWork

The Apple Watch uses sensors like heart rate monitors, GPS, and accelerometers to collect data on physical activity, sleep patterns, and more. This data is then analyzed by the watch's algorithms to provide valuable insights for users.

dapperwork.com

will report my post bc it’s not msm-it was the first article I could find that gives details on all the data it collects and how.
I know it has been used in other cases-maybe someone can recall one?
Their heart rate etc would be different-it actually tracks so much I don’t think that they could hide it imo.

other cases: Molly Tibbits, Samantha Murphy

 

[priyaya]

So is the act of sending a ransom letter over the internet and demanding bitcoin a federal crime? Like without the kidnapping?

 

[justwannahelp]

IMO a random, unknown bad guy, didn’t have access to NG vehicle.

Could the perp have been hiding and waiting long before she came home from dinner- knew she was going to this dinner. Wanted to make sure traffic cams around the time right before her disappearance wouldn’t have been as helpful?

Perp could have gotten there at noon and hid for example. Maybe at some point he touched or rummaged through or got in her car? They will check for dna?

This is totally off the wall and probably nuts and naive, but is it possible bro in law could have actually AGREED to be a temporary “fall guy” to make the perp comfortable? I mean if lots of people were/are REALLY convinced of a suspect, but it’s not REALLY the suspect, the REAL perp may get sloppy…

Eventually bro in law would know his name would be cleared and the truth told. Savannah is staying at his house so she is ok with him despite the earlier “reports” so maybe it was all planned??