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Anyone plan to attend Nancy’s church service online?
 
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Great information.

I don’t use an Apple Watch, but I know some things it tracks in the health app. Would it show when removed from her or when heartbeat stopped, if it did?
Yes. The apple watch tracks heart rate, so it could provide data about the exact time that she realized that someone was in her house - sudden elevation in heart rate. It would show the moment her apple watch was removed from her wrist, as all data would stop.
 
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The comment he makes at the end about his children not being the same class as NG's children was ... a little odd I must admit.
He said in the same class. Meaning they were older or younger than they were and their time at school didn’t “overlap”

moo.
 
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He said in the same class. Meaning they were older or younger than they were and their time at school didn’t “overlap”

moo.
Oh I see! Sorry, that my overly English interpretation where we are too attuned to class-based comments 😄
 
  • #12,065
Is anyone else glued to WS right now 😩
The winter birds are knocking on my door for their seed and are furioussssssss, some are peeking in the window and understand. We need to move ourselves, 'our'. It's easy to glue ourselves to this thread with such changes seeming to happen, not wanting to miss. IMO
 
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CASE UPDATE — N.G.

As of now, this case has entered a critical phase. While authorities still state no suspect or official person of interest has been publicly identified, multiple investigative actions suggest movement behind the scenes.

Here is the most complete picture based on publicly reported information:

TIMELINE ANCHOR
Approximately seven days have passed since the overnight window when N.G.’s pacemaker reportedly lost synchronization with her Apple-linked devices. This same window is believed by investigators to be when the incident occurred.

OFFICIAL POSITION
Pima County authorities continue to say:
• No suspects ruled out
• No official person of interest named
• Investigation remains active and evolving

GAS STATION LEAD
Investigators were seen seeking surveillance footage from a nearby gas station. A clerk stated law enforcement asked about video involving an unidentified male. No description has been released, and it is not confirmed whether this individual is a suspect or part of routine evidence gathering.

VEHICLE OF INTEREST
Separately, investigators obtained surveillance footage from a Circle K connected to a reported “vehicle of interest.” It remains unknown whether this vehicle is connected to the unidentified male or represents a separate lead.

FAMILY HOME INVESTIGATION
Authorities spent extended time inside the home of A.G. and T.C., the last confirmed location where N.G. was present before returning to her own residence approximately 4.3 miles away.

Video and witness observations reported:
• Investigators entering with equipment
• Camera flashes visible from inside
• Metallic/clanking sounds consistent with evidence processing
• Items removed from the home

No official explanation has been given regarding what was collected or how this activity relates to the broader investigation.

MAP / SEARCH ACTIVITY
Images circulating show investigators reviewing a map. Commentary from a legal analyst suggested such materials are sometimes associated with search planning, though authorities have not confirmed the purpose.

COMMUNICATIONS / RANSOM
The family publicly stated they received a message and are willing to meet ransom demands in hopes of securing N.G.’s safe return. Authorities have previously confirmed impostor/fake ransom activity occurred in the case environment, meaning not all communications are verified.

CURRENT STATUS
N.G. remains missing.
No suspect publicly identified.
Multiple investigative threads appear active simultaneously.

WHAT THIS MAY INDICATE (GENERAL, NON-SPECULATIVE)
In major investigations, simultaneous evidence collection at multiple locations, surveillance review, and timeline reconstruction often occur when investigators are:
• Verifying movement and sequence
• Narrowing potential leads
• Correlating physical and digital evidence
• Testing emerging theories

However, no official confirmation has been given tying these activities to a specific suspect.

The case remains active, fluid, and unresolved. Verified information from authorities will be critical in determining the next direction.

END UPDATE
Very good info!
My only comment, MOO, the time has passed for NG “ safe” return.
i think it was clear in the family video yesterday, when Savannah said “celebrate”, that NG is sadly not alive. They want the body back.
 
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I stand corrected on where they stayed. Thanks for links. I thought I had read earlier in week they had left. No idea where I read that now. Yikes… that would be impossible for me to stay there if I knew they were looking at SIL.
Just trying to pressure test the theories here- there is a lot of information not making sense.

How could you let them stay there if you think there are things that might need searching! And how could you stay together if you knew LE thought your siblings might have murdered your mom?
 
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If it’s true that an investigator was carrying a map, they must be using investigative tactics from 1995
Sometimes you need to see a large thing and spread it out on a big table and be able to write on it and roll it up and take it with you. When there are digital screens that can do what paper does…
 
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This just occurred to me thinking about the “resentment” angle…there actually might be something to the timing so close to the Olympics.

Something along the lines of…you get to go to Italy and be on television for the Olympics first class, fancy hotels etc etc…and we are stuck here yet again playing mahjong on a weekend night with Mom when we haven’t been to Italy in years…

moo.
So you mean like a mindset of...
 
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If it’s true that an investigator was carrying a map, they must be using investigative tactics from 1995
Not if it's a map they found in the home. Besides, don't think for a second that paper maps aren't still sometimes used to plot grids, mark locations, etc.
 
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If it’s true that an investigator was carrying a map, they must be using investigative tactics from 1995
Likely mine maps. Tucson has a lot of abandoned mines. if you need to dispose of a body quickly and not far away this may be what occurred. Easier with a paper copy to grid off areas and assign search vectors than working off a digital copy. Just my opinion.
 
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Just trying to pressure test the theories here- there is a lot of information not making sense.

How could you let them stay there if you think there are things that might need searching! And how could you stay together if you knew LE thought your siblings might have murdered your mom?
I couldn’t. I’d literally be vomiting every second.
 
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Oh I see! Sorry, that my overly English interpretation where we are too attuned to class-based comments 😄
Yes you arrrre and must of been horrified at first, hahaha.. IMO
 
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Yes you arrrre and must of been horrified at first, hahaha.. IMO
Well yes, it made it sound like he casually dropped in a personal motive right at the end of the interview 😄
 
  • #12,076
So it seems, with limited information. The only thing I've seen is that the 2:18 am interrogation failed, meaning the pacemaker was out of range at that particular moment. When it went out of range is anyone's guess. As for the garage door I can use my app to open/close my garage door from anywhere so that doesn't really prove anyone was on the property when the garage door opened.

I do think the camera going off-line at a particular time to be important. As for the "person" or "movement" detected by a different camera that could be anything really.

My opinion only.

The wording in the timeline from the Sheriff says 'Pacemaker app shows disconnect from phone'

I feel like what you are talking about is something different then what they are saying?



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  • #12,077
Thanks for the info.

Question: You have the app on your phone? or watch? or both?

Another Question haha : If you leave your phone somewhere and walk a distance away, does it lose connection and do you get a notification of that on your phone?

I'm wondering if during the investigation they found a 'notification' saying it lost contact.
My app is on my phone. Before that I had a home monitor/receiver in the bedroom. Neither gives me real-time information as far as data or connection status outside of the set interrogation time. If I'm out of range at query time I do get a connection failure notice then.

My experience only.
 
  • #12,078
The winter birds are knocking on my door for their seed and are furioussssssss, some are peeking in the window and understand. We need to move ourselves, 'our'. It's easy to glue ourselves to this thread with such changes seeming to happen, not wanting to miss. IMO
That was so beautifully and elegantly said ❤️ It feels like the first line of a fabulous book..
 
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I usually try never to skip pages on WS but on this case if you didn't it would basically be a full time job!
So right
There aren't many "can't skip a word/page places" we go to
This great site is definitely one of them
 
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