Chainspell
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What's wrong with a map? Maybe it's a topo map.If it’s true that an investigator was carrying a map, they must be using investigative tactics from 1995
Could be a handwritten map that someone providedWho carries maps anymore
In my personal experience, no way. My son was a victim of a crime two years ago. We offered a plea deal this fall to avoid him having to testify (he’s 15). When we went to court for the sentencing, we were stunned to find out the perp had actually been arrested for another crime in the meantime. Law enforcement and even prosecutors tell you the bare minimum you need to know. No way they would share anything with SG in regards to her sister/husband. My opinion and experience, only.I got to thinking as I watch the video of the three siblings and what must be going on. I don't know how much is shared with family by LE on working theories? Could LE be telling SG about theory of TC involvement but keeping it quiet as they close in on him or his associates? Just because they sit there holding hands making these videos does not mean something is not going on the rest of the time. I doubt. they are. all staying together at this point. AG home is. being treated as a crime scene. Read into that what you will. I sure hope family not involved but now thinking they might have been.
It's ironic how litigious he is, yet opens himself up to all sort of defamation risk.Hard pass. His videos are awful, and terribly unprofessional as well IMO. Yesterday day it was all: "guys guys guys!! What do ya think is happening? OMG wow, guys! Do you think it's the brother in law, WOW! Maybe it's him, ,wow. guys!!"
No thanks. I'll stick to Brian
I stand corrected on where they stayed. Thanks for links. I thought I had read earlier in week they had left. No idea where I read that now. Yikes… that would be impossible for me to stay there if I knew they were looking at SIL.I don't think we know that is the case:
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Savannah Guthrie’s brother and sister put on united front in first sighting since mom’s disappearance
The 84-year-old was reported missing on Sunday after missing church.www.yahoo.com
Then 2 hrs ago
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Day 8: The latest on the Investigation into the Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie
TUCSON (KVOA) - As the search for Nancy Guthrie enters its second week, law enforcement activity continues around her family's residences. Police were observed at the home of Annie Guthrie,www.kvoa.com
Savannah Guthrie and her siblings, who had been staying at their older sister's home several miles away, left the location as investigators conducted their search.
So they were there for the search, but this also confirms it was a search.
This is most confusing case I have ever followed.
It's possible that SG owns a home in or near Tucson where she stays when she visits her mother/sister. SG grew up in Tucson and might still have many ties to the area besides family members who live there.I have to hope that they're staying somewhere much more private and it's not being disclosed. I was trying to think of what I would do if I was SG. I came to two/three real options - a large suite at a hotel, or the home of someone trusted. I'm talking lifelong best friend or maybe someone who has a second home that's not being used. I imagine her own security team, which it seems like she had even before this incident, would also be with her. Perhaps some additional security from NBC, some lawyers... I would want a lot of space that I was in control of...
This just occurred to me thinking about the “resentment” angle…there actually might be something to the timing so close to the Olympics.I agree with this 100%. Add to this that the brother is a retired F16 pilot who also lives on the east coast. The resentment might be compounded.
i think the Guthrie family is. well connected enough to make their own arrangements. Even if he offered I think they would decline.DJT probably offered accommodation; he did the same for Jennifer Hudson in 2008. Not a political post, just stating past actions.
The good news is I'm at my second job (brewery) and it's going to be a slow day here, gives me time to try and catch up, hahaIs anyone else glued to WS right now![]()
Looking at this picture is painful, you can see the love they have for each other, breaks my heartFebruary 6, 2026
''While an alleged ransom note demands millions in cryptocurrency, a former CIA and FBI official believes the crime may stem from fixation or resentment linked to the TV personality's visibility.![]()
Ex-FBI Special Agent Claims Savannah Guthrie's Mom's Abductor May Be A Person 'Obsessed' With Her Daughter
Nancy Guthrie's disappearance has prompted growing concern as investigators work to determine the reason for her abduction.www.yahoo.com
As more troubling details emerge, the case of Savannah Guthrie's mom's disappearance is being increasingly viewed as a deliberate, targeted act rather than a random crime.''
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Instagram | Savannah Guthrie
'According to former CIA officer and FBI special agent Tracy Walder, Nancy Guthrie's abduction may be driven more by her daughter Savannah Guthrie's public profile than by financial motives, despite an alleged ransom note demanding millions in cryptocurrency.''
'She previously suggested Nancy may have been "stalked for some time," noting the perpetrator's apparent familiarity with the home and its security systems.'
So it seems, with limited information. The only thing I've seen is that the 2:18 am interrogation failed, meaning the pacemaker was out of range at that particular moment. When it went out of range is anyone's guess. As for the garage door I can use my app to open/close my garage door from anywhere so that doesn't really prove anyone was on the property when the garage door opened.So bottom line supposition-the interrogation failed, as Nancy was out of range. We have no proof of her prior whereabouts other than what was told to law enforcement. We know details of when garage door opened and closed, and two times that events occurred regarding cameras. No footage that we know of. Right?
Not necessarily. Large topo maps and maps thst might be one of a kind that indicate wells, mines or other structures not avaible on Google maps. There are also written maps that show access roads, paths not mapped digitally.If it’s true that an investigator was carrying a map, they must be using investigative tactics from 1995
Yes. The apple watch tracks heart rate, so it could provide data about the exact time that she realized that someone was in her house - sudden elevation in heart rate. It would show the moment her apple watch was removed from her wrist, as all data would stop.Great information.
I don’t use an Apple Watch, but I know some things it tracks in the health app. Would it show when removed from her or when heartbeat stopped, if it did?
He said in the same class. Meaning they were older or younger than they were and their time at school didn’t “overlap”The comment he makes at the end about his children not being the same class as NG's children was ... a little odd I must admit.
Oh I see! Sorry, that my overly English interpretation where we are too attuned to class-based commentsHe said in the same class. Meaning they were older or younger than they were and their time at school didn’t “overlap”
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The winter birds are knocking on my door for their seed and are furioussssssss, some are peeking in the window and understand. We need to move ourselves, 'our'. It's easy to glue ourselves to this thread with such changes seeming to happen, not wanting to miss. IMOIs anyone else glued to WS right now![]()
Very good info!CASE UPDATE — N.G.
As of now, this case has entered a critical phase. While authorities still state no suspect or official person of interest has been publicly identified, multiple investigative actions suggest movement behind the scenes.
Here is the most complete picture based on publicly reported information:
TIMELINE ANCHOR
Approximately seven days have passed since the overnight window when N.G.’s pacemaker reportedly lost synchronization with her Apple-linked devices. This same window is believed by investigators to be when the incident occurred.
OFFICIAL POSITION
Pima County authorities continue to say:
• No suspects ruled out
• No official person of interest named
• Investigation remains active and evolving
GAS STATION LEAD
Investigators were seen seeking surveillance footage from a nearby gas station. A clerk stated law enforcement asked about video involving an unidentified male. No description has been released, and it is not confirmed whether this individual is a suspect or part of routine evidence gathering.
VEHICLE OF INTEREST
Separately, investigators obtained surveillance footage from a Circle K connected to a reported “vehicle of interest.” It remains unknown whether this vehicle is connected to the unidentified male or represents a separate lead.
FAMILY HOME INVESTIGATION
Authorities spent extended time inside the home of A.G. and T.C., the last confirmed location where N.G. was present before returning to her own residence approximately 4.3 miles away.
Video and witness observations reported:
• Investigators entering with equipment
• Camera flashes visible from inside
• Metallic/clanking sounds consistent with evidence processing
• Items removed from the home
No official explanation has been given regarding what was collected or how this activity relates to the broader investigation.
MAP / SEARCH ACTIVITY
Images circulating show investigators reviewing a map. Commentary from a legal analyst suggested such materials are sometimes associated with search planning, though authorities have not confirmed the purpose.
COMMUNICATIONS / RANSOM
The family publicly stated they received a message and are willing to meet ransom demands in hopes of securing N.G.’s safe return. Authorities have previously confirmed impostor/fake ransom activity occurred in the case environment, meaning not all communications are verified.
CURRENT STATUS
N.G. remains missing.
No suspect publicly identified.
Multiple investigative threads appear active simultaneously.
WHAT THIS MAY INDICATE (GENERAL, NON-SPECULATIVE)
In major investigations, simultaneous evidence collection at multiple locations, surveillance review, and timeline reconstruction often occur when investigators are:
• Verifying movement and sequence
• Narrowing potential leads
• Correlating physical and digital evidence
• Testing emerging theories
However, no official confirmation has been given tying these activities to a specific suspect.
The case remains active, fluid, and unresolved. Verified information from authorities will be critical in determining the next direction.
END UPDATE