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It should also be reiterated that a murder/dump falls under the sheriff's/state jurisdiction, while a kidnapping and email ransom falls under FBI/federal jurisdiction. The sheriff's office, once the hub of media relations, paused daily press conferences a few days back, and this is despite the investigation clearly intensifying and public interest in it having multiplied exponentially. The FBI typically does not comment on their active investigations. This suggests a literal change in jurisdiction and oversight, and an implied change in what law enforcement agencies feel occurred that night and subsequently.

Indeed, the Guthries have been pleading with purported kidnappers to return their Mom, and acknowledging contact and their willingness to pay. The Sheriff was spotted at a basketball game last night. To be sure, there is nothing wrong with the Sheriff enjoying his life and any favorite past times, but this fact, along with the shift in media relations a few days ago at his department, does suggest that his office is no longer the key agency overseeing this case.

And if that is true, and the Guthries are clearly and publicly focused on a kidnapping and interacting with a purported kidnapper in order to negotiate the return of NG, then it suggests that this is what it seems to be - a kidnapping for ransom led by an always tight-lipped FBI.

JMO.
 
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PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT RANDOM YOUTUBE CREATORS.
STAY ON TOPIC.
THANK YOU.
 
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Somebody tell me if this guy is not allowed. I searched forum and saw other tweets linked.
What do you think about what he says?

Personally I wouldn’t know if he’s correct or not, but it’s interesting! I think it’s possible, as some of the comments say, that they didn’t do a Luminal search, but looked for something else. I also think it’s possible that Sheriff was creating a distraction to something the FBI was doing. Look here, not there.
 
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How would a random kidnapper know she attended the online services?
They wouldn't. So would indicate not a random kidnapping, IMO
 
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Thanks, yeh I clarified that I misinterpreted this as something about lower / upper class but that's because I am a brit!
I must say as American who lives on Brit authors and series /shows, it was the first thing that came to my mind too and I 'jumped', then realized. Haa. "OUR" backs get up!!
 
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It's just inexplicable, if it was SIL I'm surprised it would take this long to build a case and nail him down? Even if he had an accomplice, surely there would be some record of who it was or what they did. Federal, state and local are all working on this, how could he outsmart them all for this long? Who knows though... again, just somehow hoping AG wasn't involved if SIL did do it...
 
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Thanks for the info.
I don't know whether I'm in or out..so much reporting/videos. lol
Whatever was removed from the house would be listed in the warrant and I would think if the white object was evidence it would have been photographed where it was found, sealed and numbered/documented.
imo
It hasn’t even been said that there IS a warrant.
 
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I can pull up limited data in the app. It shows the date/time of past interrogations. Mine are usually around 1:30 am or thereabouts. If the interrogation is successful I can see if my pacemaker recorded any anomalies or concerning events.

If Ms Guthrie's pacemaker sent a data pack the previous night at 2 am the only thing you'd see in the app is a successful transmission the previous night and a disconnected/failure on the night in question. There is no data in between.
FBI contacted UBER driver about pick up of NG and drop off at AG's home ... if I remember correctly around 530 PM
 
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The last video is the body language off? SG and her brother seem like their upper body is turned away from the sister. SG, I can't tell if she is holding her hand but her arms are still crossed. I am interested in body language and think I see something with the sister but it doesn't always mean something. Just curious if anyone else sees what I THINK I am seeing in the body language. I went back and just watched it because someone said watch it with the sound off and pay attention to the sister and that is what I noticed.
I had a similar thought. I'm wondering if I'm just looking for signs that are not really there?
 
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Agreed - we only have the word of AG/TC that they played Mahjong.

Unless that picture of Nancy sitting at a table with the Mahjong game right in front of her is verfied to have been taken at Annie's house Saturday evening.
 
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I haven’t been following since last night so I apologize if this was discussed, but does anyone think there is a specific reason for the $6 million? Why not 5 or 7?
Good point
One might think 5 million or 10 million
 
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I haven’t been following since last night so I apologize if this was discussed, but does anyone think there is a specific reason for the $6 million? Why not 5 or 7?
Might have wanted to take a certain portion of SG's (reported) yearly income of 8mil to make an impact.

That said, 6mil USD is almost exactly 5mil in Euros or 100mil in pesos based on current conversion. Don't necessarily think its relevant, but those are 'cleaner' numbers than 6mil. JMO.
 
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the media is really starting to annoy me today lol The headline is extremely misleading, saying "Boxes" removed from the home.

I didn't see 1 box in any of the videos today or the livestream I watched last night.
 
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It's just inexplicable, if it was SIL I'm surprised it would take this long to build a case and nail him down? Even if he had an accomplice, surely there would be some record of who it was or what they did. Federal, state and local are all working on this, how could he outsmart them all for this long? Who knows though... again, just somehow hoping AG wasn't involved if SIL did do it...
Yup. That’s a really big issue. I would have expected something big by now, especially with all the resources here.
 
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I was so sure this would be a family matter, which is how I feel in almost every case, but now I’m starting to lean the other way. If it’s a family thing, it’s probably financial, and at this rate no one is getting NG’s money any time soon.
What money? Why do you think NG Is wealthy? Plus, whatever she has would probably have to be divided 3 ways ....among her children. For all you know she has a mortgage or reverse mortgage. The person with money is SG. This is NOT a familial money grab from the mom. This is about NBC, SG, a stalker, the appearance at the OLYMPICS..something along those lines. IMO
 
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Occurs to me that if the ransom note writer is not the same as the person who abducted NG then they might still be local.

News of her disappearance and the suspicious nature of it was probably big news locally but maybe not wider?
 
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